Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Jon Dowland dixit: The stuff is things such as minified js. The wordpress source contains the minified copies, and you can get the originals in separate tarballs from the wordpress site. Eh, I’d call that RC. People have been told off for not including the corresponding source in the

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, (Corsac was right, you'd better CC the maintainers with whom you want to discuss...) On Wed, 16 May 2012, Russell Coker wrote: Would it be possible to have somewhere on the Debian servers for storing such files so that they can be referenced in a README file or something rather than

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-19 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jon Dowland: So if I understand the situation correctly; wordpress ships a pre-build binary which cannot be generated in Debian? Whether the source is in a separate package or not, this does not feel right. It's not without precedent. Ocaml bootstraps off a binary blob to avoid a cyclic

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/16/2012 08:45 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: Of course, many of these could be separate source/binary packages in their own right[1], as they have value outside of wordpress, and be Build-Depends/Depends of wordpress. In fact a few already are: jquery (already packaged); swfupload (not yet);

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Unfortunately, swfupload *cannot* be packaged in Debian because we have no ways of building it (unless the situation changed with adobe tools... in which case, I would really like to hear about it!). The only thing you could package

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2012-05-16 at 19:45 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: I just downloaded the source to Wordpress from Squeeze, it's got a 14M .debian.tar.xz which is mostly sources for things that are included in the upstream tarball. The build process appears to only use the upstream tarball code so

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 02:20:48PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Unfortunately, swfupload *cannot* be packaged in Debian because we have no ways of building it (unless the situation changed with adobe tools... in which case, I would really like to hear about it!). The only thing you could

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Toni Mueller
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 05:53:11PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Russell Coker wrote: Would it be possible to have somewhere on the Debian servers for storing such files so that they can be referenced in a README file or something rather than sent to

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:10:55PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: If you say download some, and ignore the others in most cases, please consider that in the case you really find out that you need the source, you'll most likely be offline, and cannot do much about it (Murphy's laws apply

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Toni Mueller
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 03:56:25PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: Hopefully you've got the build-dependencies too. Which, if the source packages were split off into other packages, you'd then pull in. Being able to read the source code can often get you quite far already, but yes, usually, I want

big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-16 Thread Russell Coker
I just downloaded the source to Wordpress from Squeeze, it's got a 14M .debian.tar.xz which is mostly sources for things that are included in the upstream tarball. The build process appears to only use the upstream tarball code so the 13MB of data in the debian/missing-sources directory isn't

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Russell Coker wrote: I just downloaded the source to Wordpress from Squeeze, it's got a 14M .debian.tar.xz which is mostly sources for things that are included in the upstream tarball.  The build process appears to only use the upstream tarball code so the

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-16 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 05:53:11PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Seems like a bug, the best way to determine that sources are still buildable is to always build them. The stuff is things such as minified js. The wordpress source contains the minified copies, and you can get the originals in separate

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Russell Coker] Would it be possible to have somewhere on the Debian servers for storing such files so that they can be referenced in a README file or something rather than sent to everyone? I'm sure that most people who build a Wordpress package won't use them. As Paul Wise said, best if