Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 04:07:11PM +0200, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: > > So why don't you just change your local settings to make xterm be mono? > > Ummm. `XTerm*ColorMode: no' seems like it'd do what you want. > > That seems to work just fine. I wish I was aware of that resource a bit > earlier...

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:54:39AM +0100, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: > > Oh crap, you're right. I wasn't thinking on that one. Oh well, I guess > > somebody will have to find good colour combinations for every colour > > package. > > I can do that. Black on white. Proven to work > perfectly for

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-26 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: > > > Oh crap, you're right. I wasn't thinking on that one. Oh well, I guess > > somebody will have to find good colour combinations for every colour > > package. > > I can do that. Black on white. Proven to work > perfectly for centuries. Or do you only read books wit

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-26 Thread Wouter Hanegraaff
On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 10:11:57AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:54:39AM +0100, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: > > Why does debian have to be different than the rest of the world in > > everything? Why do I get colors when I set TERM=xterm? there was already > > xterm-color and

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:54:39AM +0100, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: > Why does debian have to be different than the rest of the world in > everything? Why do I get colors when I set TERM=xterm? there was already > xterm-color and xterm-debian which could do colors. Other Linux distributions tend to

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-25 Thread Wouter Hanegraaff
> Oh crap, you're right. I wasn't thinking on that one. Oh well, I guess > somebody will have to find good colour combinations for every colour > package. I can do that. Black on white. Proven to work perfectly for centuries. Or do you only read books with white letters on a black background,

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-25 Thread Peter Cordes
> Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:43:38 +0100 > From: Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: blue on black is unreadable > > Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Unless the darkish colours get used as alt

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Steve Greenland
On 24-Mar-00, 10:19 (CST), Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (I wonder if the preference for light-on-dark vs dark-on-light depends > > > on ambient light conditions?) > > > > I usually like to work in a relatively dark room. I think I'm nocturnal or > > something (looks at clock

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 03:29:07PM +0100, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > With the advent of powerful workstation monitors delivering 70 Hz or > more, the most glaring problem of black/white became less and less > important. Even on 85Hz or even higher vertical frequencies, I find black-on-white XTerms

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Steve Greenland
On 24-Mar-00, 03:22 (CST), Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Because that's what xterms do (by default) on every other single X > > implementation ever done? (Ok, that's probably an exageration...but not > > completely misleading, either.) >

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the case of terminal colours, I thought most people really did > use black bg terminals, or at least dark something, like blue. Also, > real VT100s and VT220s have black bg screens with amber text. > There's a precedent for black bg terminals outside o

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Unless the darkish colours get used as alternate background colours, they > are wasted. There only are 16 colours, so deciding to never use 4 > ({dark ,}{blue,red}) of them seems like a bad idea. Brightening them up so > they look good on a black backg

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Peter Cordes
> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:50:59 -0600 > From: Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: blue on black is unreadable > > There only are 16 colours, so deciding to never use 4 > > ({dark ,}{blue,red}) of them seems like

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-23 Thread Steve Greenland
On 22-Mar-00, 21:41 (CST), Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I took another look at the console. The ANSI bright-blue used by > ls for directories is actually quite easy to see. The normal blue used by > lynx is not great, but readable. I'm sure there is a way to set the col

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-23 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 11:41:35PM -0400, Peter Cordes wrote: > > Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:56:52 -0600 > > From: Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: blue on black is unreadable > > > > On 21

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-23 Thread Peter Cordes
> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:56:52 -0600 > From: Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: blue on black is unreadable > > On 21-Mar-00, 20:06 (CST), Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Linux text con

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-23 Thread Peter Cordes
> now that you have discovered the awful secret of debian, the secret > cabal will have to take care of you. wait right where you are. there > will be a knock on the door shortly. > > craig TINC

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-23 Thread Fabrice Gautier
On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 08:33:48AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:23:31PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > garabik> > COLOR:1:cyan:black > > garabik> > COLOR:5:brightcyan:black > > > > The same can be said about the default "ls" colors. > > It shows directory names with

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 05:21:22PM +0200, Lauri Tischler wrote: > > The same can be said about the default "ls" colors. > > It shows directory names with blue on black. > > These must be set up by some bug-eyed alien with colour-resolution > going well into ultraviolet. :) now that you have discov

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:23:31PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > garabik> >COLOR:1:cyan:black > garabik> >COLOR:5:brightcyan:black > > The same can be said about the default "ls" colors. > It shows directory names with blue on black. yep, i forgot to mention that until after i'd sent the

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-22 Thread Steve Greenland
On 21-Mar-00, 20:06 (CST), Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Linux text console is readable (barely), but xterm uses and even worse > colour for ANSI blue. (assuming black background). The fix for this > is to change the colour used by xterm for ANSI blue, instead of changing all >

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-22 Thread Peter Cordes
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 10:53:47PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:21:22 +0200 > From: Lauri Tischler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc >

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-21 Thread Lauri Tischler
Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > garabik> > lynx has the same problem. hyper links are blue on black, which > makes it > garabik> > very difficult to see where you are going. fixed with: > garabik> > > garabik> > COLOR:1:cyan:black > garabik> > COLOR:5:brightcyan:black > > The same can be sai

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-21 Thread Junichi Uekawa
In Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:40:53 +0100, de profundis Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritas scribat garabik> > lynx has the same problem. hyper links are blue on black, which makes it garabik> > very difficult to see where you are going. fixed with: garabik> > garabik> > COLOR:1:cyan:

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-20 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 10:31:40AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > lynx has the same problem. hyper links are blue on black, which makes it > very difficult to see where you are going. fixed with: > > COLOR:1:cyan:black > COLOR:5:brightcyan:black I wonder who made up the default lynx

blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 10:20:30PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >The /etc/Muttrc in the mutt package makes a fruit salad of mutt. > Most people like it. > > >When using mutt in an xterm, the color bindings in /etc/Muttrc make it > >very hard to read mail