Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:54:39AM +0100, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: Why does debian have to be different than the rest of the world in everything? Why do I get colors when I set TERM=xterm? there was already xterm-color and xterm-debian which could do colors. Other Linux distributions tend to

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-26 Thread Wouter Hanegraaff
On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 10:11:57AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:54:39AM +0100, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: Why does debian have to be different than the rest of the world in everything? Why do I get colors when I set TERM=xterm? there was already xterm-color and

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-26 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: Oh crap, you're right. I wasn't thinking on that one. Oh well, I guess somebody will have to find good colour combinations for every colour package. I can do that. Black on white. Proven to work perfectly for centuries. Or do you only read books with white

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:54:39AM +0100, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: Oh crap, you're right. I wasn't thinking on that one. Oh well, I guess somebody will have to find good colour combinations for every colour package. I can do that. Black on white. Proven to work perfectly for

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 04:07:11PM +0200, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: So why don't you just change your local settings to make xterm be mono? Ummm. `XTerm*ColorMode: no' seems like it'd do what you want. That seems to work just fine. I wish I was aware of that resource a bit earlier...

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-25 Thread Peter Cordes
Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:43:38 +0100 From: Robert Bihlmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: blue on black is unreadable Peter Cordes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unless the darkish colours get used as alternate background colours, they are wasted. There only

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-25 Thread Wouter Hanegraaff
Oh crap, you're right. I wasn't thinking on that one. Oh well, I guess somebody will have to find good colour combinations for every colour package. I can do that. Black on white. Proven to work perfectly for centuries. Or do you only read books with white letters on a black background,

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Peter Cordes
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:50:59 -0600 From: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: blue on black is unreadable There only are 16 colours, so deciding to never use 4 ({dark ,}{blue,red}) of them seems like a bad idea. Brightening them up so

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Peter Cordes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unless the darkish colours get used as alternate background colours, they are wasted. There only are 16 colours, so deciding to never use 4 ({dark ,}{blue,red}) of them seems like a bad idea. Brightening them up so they look good on a black background

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Peter Cordes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the case of terminal colours, I thought most people really did use black bg terminals, or at least dark something, like blue. Also, real VT100s and VT220s have black bg screens with amber text. There's a precedent for black bg terminals outside of X.

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Steve Greenland
On 24-Mar-00, 03:22 (CST), Peter Cordes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because that's what xterms do (by default) on every other single X implementation ever done? (Ok, that's probably an exageration...but not completely misleading, either.) Is that

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 03:29:07PM +0100, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: With the advent of powerful workstation monitors delivering 70 Hz or more, the most glaring problem of black/white became less and less important. Even on 85Hz or even higher vertical frequencies, I find black-on-white XTerms

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-24 Thread Steve Greenland
On 24-Mar-00, 10:19 (CST), Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I wonder if the preference for light-on-dark vs dark-on-light depends on ambient light conditions?) I usually like to work in a relatively dark room. I think I'm nocturnal or something (looks at clock... :( And

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-23 Thread Fabrice Gautier
On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 08:33:48AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:23:31PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: garabik COLOR:1:cyan:black garabik COLOR:5:brightcyan:black The same can be said about the default ls colors. It shows directory names with blue on black.

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-23 Thread Peter Cordes
now that you have discovered the awful secret of debian, the secret cabal will have to take care of you. wait right where you are. there will be a knock on the door shortly. craig TINC

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-23 Thread Peter Cordes
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:56:52 -0600 From: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: blue on black is unreadable On 21-Mar-00, 20:06 (CST), Peter Cordes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Linux text console is readable (barely), but xterm uses and even

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-23 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 11:41:35PM -0400, Peter Cordes wrote: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:56:52 -0600 From: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: blue on black is unreadable On 21-Mar-00, 20:06 (CST), Peter Cordes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-23 Thread Steve Greenland
On 22-Mar-00, 21:41 (CST), Peter Cordes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I took another look at the console. The ANSI bright-blue used by ls for directories is actually quite easy to see. The normal blue used by lynx is not great, but readable. I'm sure there is a way to set the colours

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-22 Thread Peter Cordes
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 10:53:47PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:21:22 +0200 From: Lauri Tischler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors) Junichi

Re: blue on black is unreadable

2000-03-22 Thread Steve Greenland
On 21-Mar-00, 20:06 (CST), Peter Cordes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Linux text console is readable (barely), but xterm uses and even worse colour for ANSI blue. (assuming black background). The fix for this is to change the colour used by xterm for ANSI blue, instead of changing all apps

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:23:31PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: garabik COLOR:1:cyan:black garabik COLOR:5:brightcyan:black The same can be said about the default ls colors. It shows directory names with blue on black. yep, i forgot to mention that until after i'd sent the message.

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 05:21:22PM +0200, Lauri Tischler wrote: The same can be said about the default ls colors. It shows directory names with blue on black. These must be set up by some bug-eyed alien with colour-resolution going well into ultraviolet. :) now that you have discovered the

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-21 Thread Junichi Uekawa
In Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:40:53 +0100, de profundis Radovan Garabik [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritas scribat garabik lynx has the same problem. hyper links are blue on black, which makes it garabik very difficult to see where you are going. fixed with: garabik garabik COLOR:1:cyan:black

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-21 Thread Lauri Tischler
Junichi Uekawa wrote: garabik lynx has the same problem. hyper links are blue on black, which makes it garabik very difficult to see where you are going. fixed with: garabik garabik COLOR:1:cyan:black garabik COLOR:5:brightcyan:black The same can be said about the

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-20 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 10:31:40AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: lynx has the same problem. hyper links are blue on black, which makes it very difficult to see where you are going. fixed with: COLOR:1:cyan:black COLOR:5:brightcyan:black I wonder who made up the default lynx

blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 10:20:30PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The /etc/Muttrc in the mutt package makes a fruit salad of mutt. Most people like it. When using mutt in an xterm, the color bindings in /etc/Muttrc make it very hard to read mail: 8