Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Florian Weimer writes ("Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden.""): > In this case, HTTPS should be used to download the packages, together > with proper certificate validation. This has got the added benefit that > passwords aren't sent in the clear

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:24:12AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:27:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Wouter Verhelst: > > > > That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The > > > update frequency of that repository (which is available onl

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-11 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:27:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst: > > That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The > > update frequency of that repository (which is available only to buildd > > hosts by IP and/or password protection) makes that impossib

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-11 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:24:12AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:27:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Wouter Verhelst: > > > > That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The > > > update frequency of that repository (which is available onl

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-11 Thread Raphael Geissert
Michael Banck wrote: > > Assuming that compromised mirrors get quickly identified by people using > signatures, and buildd packages having to be uploaded directly, the > amount of compromised packages this way is probably small, so they can > be rebuilt using packages from another mirror, after th

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:27:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst: > > That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The > > update frequency of that repository (which is available only to buildd > > hosts by IP and/or password protection) makes that impossi

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-11 Thread Florian Weimer
* Wouter Verhelst: > That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The > update frequency of that repository (which is available only to buildd > hosts by IP and/or password protection) makes that impossible -- or at > least that's what I understood; you may want to check wit

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-11 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michael Banck: > Assuming that compromised mirrors get quickly identified by people using > signatures, and buildd packages having to be uploaded directly, the > amount of compromised packages this way is probably small, so they can > be rebuilt using packages from another mirror, after the buil

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 06:53:12PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Hi all, > > It's not uncommon to see buildds (actually build tools) override the > package/Release signature warning. That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The update frequency of that repository (wh

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 08:54:06PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Michael Banck wrote: > > Won't somebody else stop the attack in their place then, who does check > > the signatures? > > If a mirror is compromised, unless I'm missing something, it won't be > updated until ftp-master sends a mirr

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-09 Thread Raphael Geissert
Michael Banck wrote: > > Won't somebody else stop the attack in their place then, who does check > the signatures? If a mirror is compromised, unless I'm missing something, it won't be updated until ftp-master sends a mirror push. And the period of time between the last mirror push, the compromis

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-09 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 08:00:15PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Steve McIntyre wrote: > > That's all well and good, but the buildds also depend on using > > packages from (for example) incoming, which it is not feasible to > > sign. > > Even tough incoming is not signed, packages require a val

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-09 Thread Raphael Geissert
[I read the list, no need to reply To me, thanks] Steve McIntyre wrote: > > That's all well and good, but the buildds also depend on using > packages from (for example) incoming, which it is not feasible to > sign. > Even tough incoming is not signed, packages require a valid DD/similar signatu

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
Raphael Geissert wrote: >Hi all, > >It's not uncommon to see buildds (actually build tools) override the >package/Release signature warning. >So I was wondering, what is the point of having such a signatures >verification system if the build systems do not care about them? > >I know the main target

buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-09 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hi all, It's not uncommon to see buildds (actually build tools) override the package/Release signature warning. So I was wondering, what is the point of having such a signatures verification system if the build systems do not care about them? I know the main target is to prevent end users from do