Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Florian Weimer writes (Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.): In this case, HTTPS should be used to download the packages, together with proper certificate validation. This has got the added benefit that passwords aren't sent in the clear (well, unless an error occurs

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:24:12AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:27:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Wouter Verhelst: That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The update frequency of that repository (which is available only to

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-11 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michael Banck: Assuming that compromised mirrors get quickly identified by people using signatures, and buildd packages having to be uploaded directly, the amount of compromised packages this way is probably small, so they can be rebuilt using packages from another mirror, after the build

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-11 Thread Florian Weimer
* Wouter Verhelst: That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The update frequency of that repository (which is available only to buildd hosts by IP and/or password protection) makes that impossible -- or at least that's what I understood; you may want to check with

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:27:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Wouter Verhelst: That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The update frequency of that repository (which is available only to buildd hosts by IP and/or password protection) makes that impossible --

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-11 Thread Raphael Geissert
Michael Banck wrote: Assuming that compromised mirrors get quickly identified by people using signatures, and buildd packages having to be uploaded directly, the amount of compromised packages this way is probably small, so they can be rebuilt using packages from another mirror, after the

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-11 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:24:12AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:27:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Wouter Verhelst: That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The update frequency of that repository (which is available only to

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-11 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:27:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Wouter Verhelst: That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The update frequency of that repository (which is available only to buildd hosts by IP and/or password protection) makes that impossible

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 08:54:06PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: Michael Banck wrote: Won't somebody else stop the attack in their place then, who does check the signatures? If a mirror is compromised, unless I'm missing something, it won't be updated until ftp-master sends a mirror

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 06:53:12PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: Hi all, It's not uncommon to see buildds (actually build tools) override the package/Release signature warning. That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The update frequency of that repository (which

buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-09 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hi all, It's not uncommon to see buildds (actually build tools) override the package/Release signature warning. So I was wondering, what is the point of having such a signatures verification system if the build systems do not care about them? I know the main target is to prevent end users from

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
Raphael Geissert wrote: Hi all, It's not uncommon to see buildds (actually build tools) override the package/Release signature warning. So I was wondering, what is the point of having such a signatures verification system if the build systems do not care about them? I know the main target is to

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-09 Thread Raphael Geissert
[I read the list, no need to reply To me, thanks] Steve McIntyre wrote: That's all well and good, but the buildds also depend on using packages from (for example) incoming, which it is not feasible to sign. Even tough incoming is not signed, packages require a valid DD/similar signature

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-09 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 08:00:15PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: Steve McIntyre wrote: That's all well and good, but the buildds also depend on using packages from (for example) incoming, which it is not feasible to sign. Even tough incoming is not signed, packages require a valid

Re: buildds: Authentication warning overridden.

2007-11-09 Thread Raphael Geissert
Michael Banck wrote: Won't somebody else stop the attack in their place then, who does check the signatures? If a mirror is compromised, unless I'm missing something, it won't be updated until ftp-master sends a mirror push. And the period of time between the last mirror push, the compromise