On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 04:16:30PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 03:43:55PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
>
> > Aside from the joke, we are talking about a package available also
> > for Debian GNU/_Linux_, aren't we?
>
> Fine, but then it can't be task-gnu-_only_.. maybe task
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 03:43:55PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
>
> > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:58:54 +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > One question: what's the point? Surely you want the best, not
> > > necessarily the GNU version (which might be an incredi
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:58:54 +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 09:31:39AM +0200, Roland Mas wrote:
> > > Dan Jacobson (2003-06-28 07:57:55 +0800) :
> > > > Gentlemen, after I installed "Debian GNU/Linux", I found I had to
> > > >
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:58:54 +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 09:31:39AM +0200, Roland Mas wrote:
> > Dan Jacobson (2003-06-28 07:57:55 +0800) :
> > > Gentlemen, after I installed "Debian GNU/Linux", I found I had to
> > > take extra steps to get the GNU version of a program ins
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 16:05:39 +0100, James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Given the current state of affairs, I am pretty sure that such a
>> package will be rejected by ftpmaster. They pretty sure reject almost
>> everything I upload.
>
>Since you didn't
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:36:10 +0200, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 07:57:55AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
>>> So what is the single command to apt-get install all the GNU versions
>>> of everything?
>>
>>Just create and
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:36:10 +0200, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 07:57:55AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
>> So what is the single command to apt-get install all the GNU versions
>> of everything?
>
>Just create and maintain a meta-package that Conflicts/Depends on
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:55:44AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> > what's the point? Surely you want the best, not necessarily the GNU
> > version (which might be an incredibly bleeding-edge pre-alpha thing,
> > like for example mailutils was not so long ago)?
>
> OK, let's just say I like th
Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Having bugs not fixed in 4 years (3 years even with a patch
> provided)
Don't be such a disingenuous troll. The patch for that _wishlist_ bug
has been there since April. Not for 3 years.
--
James
> If you think there is a compelling reason to change and can show that gawk
> and mawk are 100% compatable, maybe it can be worked on. But it seems most
> people don't really care.
Having bugs not fixed in 4 years (3 years even with a patch provided)
in the default awk provided by Debian seems qu
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:55:44AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> And mawk: development halted years ago. Wouldn't any awk bugs I find
> be better reported for gawk?
What's an "awk bug"? Why is it better to file it against gawk? If mawk
is the implementation that has the bug, you should file it
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:55:44AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> OK, let's just say I like the GNU guys and would like them to know if
> there are any bugs in their stuff, otherwise how will it improve?
If you are genuinely interested, you will seek these packages out.
Debian cannot diversify to ev
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So, how does one find the rest of the packages on one's system that
> "Conflicts:" with genuine GNU alternative packages.
>
> From the tone of your message, I bet there are lots that you fellows
> have pre-chosen for us new debian users. So far I have d
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:55:44AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> >From the tone of your message, I bet there are lots that you fellows
> have pre-chosen for us new debian users. So far I have discovered
> mawk, and mailx. So, out with it, what are the rest?
Umm, I don't really think there was a l
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Then they have no business using awk.
??? Awk is very friendly (friendlier than perl anyway).
-Miles
--
自らを空にして、心を開く時、道は開かれる
Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It proves that the user interface of gawk is more friendly, nothing
> more.
Yeah; the thing about mawk is that it's a great little program, fairly
robust and wicked fast -- much faster than gawk for things I do -- but
the last time I checked, it hadn't re
David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> A fair numbe rof those apps you probably want were implemented in Debian
> before GNU made their own versions - install-info(8) is one of the ones
> most often griped about.
Careful... mentioning this issue invariably seems to generate all kind
of bile
> what's the point? Surely you want the best, not necessarily the GNU
> version (which might be an incredibly bleeding-edge pre-alpha thing,
> like for example mailutils was not so long ago)?
OK, let's just say I like the GNU guys and would like them to know if
there are any bugs in their stuff, o
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 10:01:43PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> Then they have no business using awk.
Idealism goes farther than you'd think...
-Josh
--
A man may be so much of everything that he is nothing of anything.
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 06:58:11PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> It proves that the user interface of gawk is more friendly, nothing
> more.
>
> And users that do not know the difference between mawk and gawk are
> not necessarily looking for performance, but may prefer a software
> with a user fri
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 06:58:11PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> And users that do not know the difference between mawk and gawk are
> not necessarily looking for performance, but may prefer a software
> with a user friendly interface.
Then they have no business using awk.
--
.''`. ** Debian GN
Le lun 30/06/2003 à 18:58, Mathieu Roy a écrit :
> It proves that the user interface of gawk is more friendly, nothing
> more.
>
> And users that do not know the difference between mawk and gawk are
> not necessarily looking for performance, but may prefer a software
> with a user friendly interf
On Monday 30 June 2003 15:36, Josip Rodin wrote:
> And this proves exactly what? Someone who knows shit all about awk sure as
> hell ain't gonna learn it from that help output. Nor are they supposed to!
More along the lines of behaving nicely on the command line, i.e. to support
--help and --vers
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 12:42:28PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> > Great, for a default application...
> > (ok, man mawk...)
> >
> > I wonder what makes the following more convenient for a default
> > application to me...
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ g
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 12:42:28PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> Great, for a default application...
> (ok, man mawk...)
>
> I wonder what makes the following more convenient for a default
> application to me...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gawk --help
> [...]
And this proves exactly what? Someone wh
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 09:31:39AM +0200, Roland Mas wrote:
> Dan Jacobson (2003-06-28 07:57:55 +0800) :
> > Gentlemen, after I installed "Debian GNU/Linux", I found I had to
> > take extra steps to get the GNU version of a program installed, as
> > some other leading brand alternative was in its s
Morgon Kanter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> This one time, at band camp, Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Last year I discovered mawk sitting there until I banished it away with
> > apt-get install gawk.
>
> Mawk is smaller and faster, so it makes sense that it's the default
> awk
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 07:57:55 +0800
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gentlemen, after I installed "Debian GNU/Linux", I found I had to take
> extra steps to get the GNU version of a program installed, as some
> other leading brand alternative was in its stead.
>
> So what is the single com
Dan Jacobson (2003-06-28 07:57:55 +0800) :
> Gentlemen, after I installed "Debian GNU/Linux", I found I had to
> take extra steps to get the GNU version of a program installed, as
> some other leading brand alternative was in its stead.
>
> So what is the single command to apt-get install all the
Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2003, Dan Jacobson wrote:
>
> > Do I look in Packages.gz for Conflicts:, and then look in Description:
> > for "this is the GNU version of..."?
>
>No need for such a fastidious search. Use this instead:
>
> apt-get install `a
On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 07:57:55AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> So what is the single command to apt-get install all the GNU versions
> of everything?
Just create and maintain a meta-package that Conflicts/Depends on the
stuff you want. See the harden package, which has similar funcionality,
AFAIC
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> Gentlemen, after I installed "Debian GNU/Linux", I found I had to take
> extra steps to get the GNU version of a program installed, as some
> other leading brand alternative was in its stead.
>
> So what is the single command to apt-get install all th
This one time, at band camp, Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Last year I discovered mawk sitting there until I banished it away with
> apt-get install gawk.
Mawk is smaller and faster, so it makes sense that it's the default
awk for a base system. Even in the GNU installer packages for
On Sat, Jun 28, 2003, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Do I look in Packages.gz for Conflicts:, and then look in Description:
> for "this is the GNU version of..."?
No need for such a fastidious search. Use this instead:
apt-get install `apt-cache search gnu | sed 's/ .*//'`
Cheers,
--
Sam.
Gentlemen, after I installed "Debian GNU/Linux", I found I had to take
extra steps to get the GNU version of a program installed, as some
other leading brand alternative was in its stead.
So what is the single command to apt-get install all the GNU versions
of everything?
Last year I discovered m
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