Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is more out there than just i386 system. I would love to see you attach a 100 gigabyte disk to a m68k system. Looking at several m68k's here, they have SCSI-2 connectors. Wouldn't it be feasible to connect an IDE-RAID system to them?

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-03 Thread Paul Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 April 2002 06:17, Ben Collins wrote: On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 03:48:49AM +0200, Paul Russell wrote: Looking at my testing PPC box with grep-available, we have only about 8GB total Installed-Size. So I would expect a ccache of 1GB

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-03 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Paul Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit: If this is indicative, a complete debian build would use 24GB, and I would say that a cache of a few GB would be a win (given not all packages get built as frequently). Also, a build farm could be optimized to usually build the same

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-02 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 23:17, Ben Collins wrote: Looking at my testing PPC box with grep-available, we have only about 8GB total Installed-Size. glibc packages total installed size is only a few dozen megs. However, the source builds takes up about 600megs. XFree86, about 1.6gigs. glibc's

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-02 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 03:17:45AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 23:17, Ben Collins wrote: Looking at my testing PPC box with grep-available, we have only about 8GB total Installed-Size. glibc packages total installed size is only a few dozen megs. However,

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-02 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:17, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 23:17, Ben Collins wrote: Looking at my testing PPC box with grep-available, we have only about 8GB total Installed-Size. glibc packages total installed size is only a few dozen megs. However, the source builds

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-02 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
That's all of three 100GB IDE disks running in RAID 0. Four disks if for some reason you want redundancy on your cache. Surely you don't presume that a) All of our autobuilders have enough bays for 3 IDE disks and b) Can take IDE at all (vore, the sparc buildd, doesn't have any IDE). Of

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-02 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 11:17, Russell Coker wrote: So we firstly need to find a real slow arch which also supports 4 new large IDE disks (remember that machines 3 years old tend not to have good support for 32G drives). That's primarily a BIOS problem, right? Does it matter for Linux?

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Anthony DeRobertis wrote: That's primarily a BIOS problem, right? Does it matter for Linux? There is more out there than just i386 system. I would love to see you attach a 100 gigabyte disk to a m68k system. Wichert. --

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-02 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 02:30:03PM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: That's all of three 100GB IDE disks running in RAID 0. Four disks if for some reason you want redundancy on your cache. Surely you don't presume that a) All of our autobuilders have enough bays for 3 IDE disks and b)

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 03:10:14PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: The ones that could use it, are the ones that can't take it :) I seriously doubt the m68k can hold 4 disks. I'm pretty sure the m68k's run scsi too. Perhaps architectures which are slow enough to really benefit would still benefit if

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 02:35:06PM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: That's primarily a BIOS problem, right? Does it matter for Linux? Actually, current kernels have a problem with current 160G drives. Mainstream 48bit ide support is expected Real Soon Now. :) -- Mike Stone -- To

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 03:38:18PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Perhaps architectures which are slow enough to really benefit would still benefit if they had to go out over the network to a cache? Certainly if there was other storage on the same LAN, maybe even farther. Unfortunately the

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-02 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:35, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 11:17, Russell Coker wrote: So we firstly need to find a real slow arch which also supports 4 new large IDE disks (remember that machines 3 years old tend not to have good support for 32G drives). That's primarily a

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-01 Thread Paul Russell
On Monday 01 April 2002 18:23, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit: The same package: almost never the same file: often, with every new compile. Just take into account that a package contains 50 .c files that need to be compiled. An updated

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 03:48:49AM +0200, Paul Russell wrote: On Monday 01 April 2002 18:23, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit: The same package: almost never the same file: often, with every new compile. Just take into account that a