Re: collapse extra priority into optional and allow conflicts?

2007-12-06 Thread brian m. carlson
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 09:36:58PM +, Neil Williams wrote: brian m. carlson wrote: There is no functional or useful distinction between optional and extra, as far as I can see - what are you trying to retain? If the distinction that is outlined in policy is followed, it is useful. It guar

Re: collapse extra priority into optional and allow conflicts?

2007-12-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:48:12PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:12:57PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > >> Whilst most GPE components can be used separately, the full environment > >> needs to replace the existing desktop whether that be Gnome or KDE or > >> chaos may en

Re: collapse extra priority into optional and allow conflicts?

2007-12-06 Thread Neil Williams
Steve Langasek wrote: Bah, got the reply address wrong too - should have left this until the morning . . . > On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:12:57PM +, Neil Williams wrote: >> Whilst most GPE components can be used separately, the full environment >> needs to replace the existing desktop whether t

Re: collapse extra priority into optional and allow conflicts?

2007-12-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:12:57PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > Whilst most GPE components can be used separately, the full environment > needs to replace the existing desktop whether that be Gnome or KDE or > chaos may ensue due to the different needs of the target environments > and the underlyi

Re: collapse extra priority into optional and allow conflicts?

2007-12-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would have put gpe-conf into extra but it needs to depend on packages > that are in optional because those can be used within Gnome or KDE or > any other desktop. I'm missing why this is a problem. Priority: extra packages can depend on Priority: opt

Re: collapse extra priority into optional and allow conflicts?

2007-12-06 Thread Neil Williams
Russ Allbery wrote: > Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Not true. GPE offers a desktop - just not a full Gnome desktop. There >> are plenty of alternative desktops in optional already. The full GPE >> environment is quite specialised but Debian does claim to the The >> Universal OS. E

Re: collapse extra priority into optional and allow conflicts?

2007-12-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is no functional or useful distinction between optional and extra, > as far as I can see - what are you trying to retain? One distinction we have at the moment that I personally think is useful is that things that most users don't care about unles

Re: collapse extra priority into optional and allow conflicts?

2007-12-06 Thread Neil Williams
brian m. carlson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 06:55:12PM +, Neil Williams wrote: >> I'd like 'extra' to disappear - so if there is a move to do that, I'm >> all for it. > > I disagree with this. I think that this distinction is useful, and I > have in the past filed bugs because of it. G

Re: collapse extra priority into optional and allow conflicts?

2007-12-06 Thread brian m. carlson
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 06:55:12PM +, Neil Williams wrote: I'd like 'extra' to disappear - so if there is a move to do that, I'm all for it. I disagree with this. I think that this distinction is useful, and I have in the past filed bugs because of it. Granted, IANADD, but I do the occa

Re: collapse extra priority into optional and allow conflicts?

2007-12-06 Thread Neil Williams
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 00:01:43 +1000, Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Haven't we more or less already moved away from priorities as meaning >> anything particularly important? We have: > >> optional -- all the good software in the world >> extra -- obscure stu