Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Guido Günther writes ("Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]"): > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 03:11:54PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > You're absolutely right in being unwilling to use "dgit" as part of the > > namespace, on t

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Iustin Pop
On 2015-11-16 13:27:33, Ian Jackson wrote: > [resending because my MUA messed up] > > Ben Hutchings writes ("Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace > proposal"): > > Deliberately creating identifiers that differ only by case seems > > gratuito

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Guido Günther
Hi, On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 03:11:54PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 02:02:32PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I'm considering: > >archive/{debian,ubuntu}/ > >{debian,ubuntu}/archive/ > > > > I'm still considering the capitalisation idea. > > > > Other

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 02:02:32PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > I'm considering: >archive/{debian,ubuntu}/ >{debian,ubuntu}/archive/ > > I'm still considering the capitalisation idea. > > Other suggestions welcome. More of a meta-idea. You're absolutely right in being unwilling to use

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]"): > Colin Watson suggested (in pers.comm) >pkg/debian/ > This is better but it still has a problem with collate order. > > It may seem a petty thing to worry about, but fo

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Ian Jackson
[resending because my MUA messed up] Ben Hutchings writes ("Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal"): > Deliberately creating identifiers that differ only by case seems > gratuitously confusing. I acknowledge that this is a downside of my proposal. However, it

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Daniel Reurich writes ("Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]"): > "archive" is rather indescript and confusing too. Sadly there's not space for an essay, and the underlying situation (particularly, the existing use of the DEP-14 namespac

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages] [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Barry Warsaw writes: > On Nov 16, 2015, at 04:52 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > >I'm leaning towards > > archive/{debian,ubuntu,...}/ > > > >This is on the grounds that the tag's semantics are that the source > >code referenced by the that is what is in the specified distro > >archive, under the

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 16, 2015, at 04:52 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: >I'm leaning towards > archive/{debian,ubuntu,...}/ > >This is on the grounds that the tag's semantics are that the source >code referenced by the that is what is in the specified distro >archive, under the specified version number. LGTM, and I

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 17/11/15 05:52, Ian Jackson wrote: Guido Günther writes ("Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]"): On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 03:11:54PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: You're absolutely right in being unwilling to use "dgit" as p

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Brian May
Ian Jackson writes: > It has nothing to do with the source format. That's the opposite of > what this tag namespace is for. For a package and version this git > tag refers to the source code that you'd get out of `apt-get source' > or dpkg-source -x,

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal

2015-11-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sun, 15 Nov 2015, Ian Jackson wrote: > * A request for anyone to say if they know of a reason I shouldn't do > this. I have to agree with Ben. A namespace differing only by the case is not very helpful. In DEP-14 we have already "debian/patches/" for the upstream branch with Debian

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal

2015-11-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On 16/11/15 22:57, Brian May wrote: > In what way does your use differ from the debian/ tag in > DEP-14? For a 3.0 (quilt) package, debian/1.2.3-4 is whichever the maintainer finds most useful for their particular workflow, either "patches applied" or "patches unapplied". The version with patches

git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal

2015-11-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Currently, the debian/ git tag namespace is used by a number of different tools, and can mean different things in different packages and sometimes even different things for the same package in different repos or trees. dgit produces, and the dgit git server requires, tags of this form, which

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal

2015-11-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2015-11-15 at 21:10 +, Ian Jackson wrote: [...] > So this message is: > > * A request for anyone to say if they know of a reason I shouldn't do >   this. [...] Deliberately creating identifiers that differ only by case seems gratuitously confusing.  Further, it may cause difficulties

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal

2015-11-15 Thread Iustin Pop
On 2015-11-15 21:26:52, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2015-11-15 at 21:10 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > [...] > > So this message is: > > > > * A request for anyone to say if they know of a reason I shouldn't do > >   this. > [...] > > Deliberately creating identifiers that differ only by case