Re: Do we still need libc5?

2005-09-04 Thread Roger Leigh
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Roger Leigh: > >> We can't provide proper security support, and by now, libc5 is likely >> full of holes, so IMO it's best if we drop it. It's not like there's >> any active maintenance or w

Re: Do we still need libc5?

2005-09-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* Roger Leigh: > We can't provide proper security support, and by now, libc5 is likely > full of holes, so IMO it's best if we drop it. It's not like there's > any active maintenance or we can do any serious work on it: it's dead > code. > > If user

Re: Do we still need libc5?

2005-09-03 Thread Roger Leigh
e to our users if we stop shipping > them. We can't provide proper security support, and by now, libc5 is likely full of holes, so IMO it's best if we drop it. It's not like there's any active maintenance or we can do any serious work on it: it's dead code. If users need i

Re: Do we still need libc5?

2005-09-03 Thread Florian Weimer
it probably doesn't make a difference to our users if we stop shipping them. > and I think Debian is like the only living Linux distribution out > there still shipping libc5. Are you sure? I would be very surprised if the "enterprise" distributions didn't ship it as well.

Re: Do we still need libc5?

2005-09-03 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 10:52:34AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 04:33:13AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > Debian unstable & testing still carry around libc5, and some associated > > packages like altgcc, libdb1, ld.so and a few others. >

Re: Do we still need libc5?

2005-09-03 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 04:33:13AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Debian unstable & testing still carry around libc5, and some associated > packages like altgcc, libdb1, ld.so and a few others. Hmm, i386 only? Bastian -- No one may kill a man. Not for any purpose. It

Do we still need libc5?

2005-09-02 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Hi all, Debian unstable & testing still carry around libc5, and some associated packages like altgcc, libdb1, ld.so and a few others. Is there nowadays still a use for these packages? Does the amount of usage warrant the efforts it take to maintain these rather outdated packages? I get a m

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-29 Thread Sven Luther
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:23:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > Tell me, you seriously think that there is a libc5 program still > > > > > around > > > > > that uses DRI ? Hell, libc5 was abandoned well before DRI even > > >

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-26 Thread Mathieu Roy
l me, you seriously think that there is a libc5 program still around > > > > that uses DRI ? Hell, libc5 was abandoned well before DRI even existed. > > > > > > the only libc5 program I do use is netscape 4.77 because it is compatible > > > to > > >

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:23:04PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Tried mozilla recently? It's a thousand times better than Netscape 4.7x > > > was... Although I've still had it vanish a couple of times recently. It > > > doesn't hang like NS though

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-26 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Tried mozilla recently? It's a thousand times better than Netscape 4.7x > > was... Although I've still had it vanish a couple of times recently. It > > doesn't hang like NS though. > > There are some sites that still require Netscape 4.77. A good example

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:21:22AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:49:54AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:23:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > Tell me, you seriously think that there is a libc5 program still around &

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-25 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:21:22AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > me wrote: > > some pages where mozilla/opera/konquerror fails. I would hate to reboot, to > Tried mozilla recently? It's a thousand times better than Netscape 4.7x navigator is mu

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-25 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:49:54AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:23:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Tell me, you seriously think that there is a libc5 program still around > > that uses DRI ? Hell, libc5 was abandoned well before DRI even existed

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-23 Thread Martin Schulze
Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > > > IMO it's a good moment to drop all the following i386-specific packages > > which are libc5 related: > > > > [SNIP] > > > > > and others, partial

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-23 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
no technical reason why we can't support libc5 anymore. The > > > only > > > >reason that this is being discussed is that nobody has stood up to > > > maintain > > > >the package. > > > > > This looks like a good enough reason to m

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-23 Thread Sven Luther
r wireless tools. There are a > > > whole > > > > Tell me, you seriously think that there is a libc5 program still around > > that uses DRI ? Hell, libc5 was abandoned well before DRI even existed. > > I'm not talking about DRI programs; I'm talking about ju

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* John Goerzen | Since providing this capability requires only free software on | Debian's part, where exactly is the problem? Manpower. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' :

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-22 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:23:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Many video cards require XFree 4.3.x or above. They require agpgart in the > > kernel. They require iwconfig and other wireless tools. There are a whole > > Tell me, you seriously think that there is a libc5 pr

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 04:58:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030622 16:35]: > > On Jun 22, Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >There is no technical reason why we can't support libc5 anymore. The only > >

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-22 Thread Andreas Barth
* Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030622 16:35]: > On Jun 22, Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >There is no technical reason why we can't support libc5 anymore. The only > >reason that this is being discussed is that nobody has stood up to maintain >

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 22, Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There is no technical reason why we can't support libc5 anymore. The only >reason that this is being discussed is that nobody has stood up to maintain >the package. This looks like a good enough reason to me. -- c

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-22 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 12:26:52PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Why not just ship an old binutils/gcc to build the old libc5 binaries? > I really don't understand why this is such a difficult problem. If, for > instance, gcc 2.7.2 could build these things three years ago, why

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-22 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le sam 21/06/2003 à 19:26, John Goerzen a écrit : > > You, and rest of the minority who use libc5 program, can dual-boot > > an older distribution of Debian (say potato) where the programs still > > work. Yes, it can be a hassle, but it works. > > Assuming it supports you

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-22 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:23:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Tell me, you seriously think that there is a libc5 program still around > that uses DRI ? Hell, libc5 was abandoned well before DRI even existed. the only libc5 program I do use is netscape 4.77 because it is compatible to some

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-22 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 12:26:52PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:43:23PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > > Alternative 1: > > > > You, and rest of the minority who use libc5 program, can dual-boot > > an older distribution of Debian (say potat

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-22 Thread Herbert Xu
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why not just ship an old binutils/gcc to build the old libc5 binaries? There is no technical reason why we can't support libc5 anymore. The only reason that this is being discussed is that nobody has stood up to maintain the packag

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-21 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:43:23PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > Alternative 1: > > You, and rest of the minority who use libc5 program, can dual-boot > an older distribution of Debian (say potato) where the programs still > work. Yes, it can be a hassle, but it works. Assum

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-21 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 12:57:03PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > M, that's the basis of freelosophy. Don't use proprietary formats and > don't > use proprietary software. The risk of being unable to use your own > documents is concrete. Who owns your docs? Corel does. Microsoft does.

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 09:27:57AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:43:23PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > > > > You, and rest of the minority who use libc5 program, can dual-boot > > an older distribution of Debian (say potato) where the pr

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-20 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 05:33:28PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > On Thursday, Jun 19, 2003, at 06:57 US/Eastern, Francesco P. Lovergine > wrote: > > >And surely Debian DOES NOT support > >non-free (in DFSG sense) software, > > No, but we do support our users who attempt to run it. See cl

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-20 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:43:23PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > > You, and rest of the minority who use libc5 program, can dual-boot > an older distribution of Debian (say potato) where the programs still > work. Yes, it can be a hassle, but it works. > Also woody...

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-20 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 02:35:18PM +1200, Philip Charles wrote: > As long as these doc's exist someone will make money by providing the > means of reading them, if OOo does not. That someone is Microsoft. > IMHO, the problem has been resolved.

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 12:39:45AM +1200, Philip Charles wrote: > > > > > > > Take the Lawyer example. He probably bought his legal practice when it > > was all Word. He does not like it, he is stuck. > > > > If he was really interested in his

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Thursday, Jun 19, 2003, at 06:57 US/Eastern, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: And surely Debian DOES NOT support non-free (in DFSG sense) software, No, but we do support our users who attempt to run it. See clause 1 of the Social Contract.

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Vincent Zweije
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:43:23PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: || Debian can continue to drag along support for libc5-binaries (hey, || nobody out there with need for libc4?) (raises hand) Ciao. Vincent.

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread David Weinehall
t; > Please remember this is 2003 and not 1983. People have accumulated a lot > on their HDDs in twenty years. What it comes down to is this: Alternative 1: You, and rest of the minority who use libc5 program, can dual-boot an older distribution of Debian (say potato) where the programs still

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:59:46AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > > IMO it's a good moment to drop all the following i386-specific packages > > which are libc5 related: > > I agree, with the proviso that we make sure anyone who really need

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 12:39:45AM +1200, Philip Charles wrote: > > > > Take the Lawyer example. He probably bought his legal practice when it > was all Word. He does not like it, he is stuck. > If he was really interested in his data, he should convert them in a standard and portable format s

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Joey Hess
Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > IMO it's a good moment to drop all the following i386-specific packages > which are libc5 related: I agree, with the proviso that we make sure anyone who really needs to can install the old libc5 support packages from archive.debian.org without bre

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Chris Halls wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:29:01PM +1200, Philip Charles wrote: > > We have a lawyer here who is a GNU/linux geek who still has to use MS Word > > because openoffice.org cannot handle the complex formatting of his legacy > > Word documents. > > Is that sti

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Philip Charles
businesses it will be a few decades. > Also, none can ensure that whenever Sarge will be released, it will be > wp-compliant at alli (also with libc5). WP for Linux is in > End-of-support and End-of-life status. And surely Debian DOES NOT > support non-free (in DFSG sense) software,

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:03:52AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > Err, Zack, I say zlib1... zlib1g* is libc6 related. Ok, thanks, never mind. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -- Master in Computer Science @ Uni. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} - http://www.bononia.it/za

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Chris Halls
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:29:01PM +1200, Philip Charles wrote: > We have a lawyer here who is a GNU/linux geek who still has to use MS Word > because openoffice.org cannot handle the complex formatting of his legacy > Word documents. Is that still true for OOo 1.1beta2? Are there open bug report

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
formats and don't use proprietary software. The risk of being unable to use your own documents is concrete. Who owns your docs? Corel does. Microsoft does. You no more own your docs when you agree with any commercial EULA and use a commercial product. You could be unable to use _current_ M$ doc wi

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:56:32AM +1200, Philip Charles wrote: > > xpm4.7 is needed for WordPerfect 8. I have a mass of wp5.1 and wp8 > > documents. > > > > That's exactly one of the old-days craps around I was pointing. > Wordperfect 11 is no

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Mark Brown
7;s zlib1 not zlib1g. We're not running a libc5 zlib. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever." pgprrzntGZklz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:56:32AM +1200, Philip Charles wrote: > xpm4.7 is needed for WordPerfect 8. I have a mass of wp5.1 and wp8 > documents. > That's exactly one of the old-days craps around I was pointing. Wordperfect 11 is now a windoze-only program. Also Applixware 5 (another dead produ

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Sven Luther
hat has that to do with it ? I thougt the proposal was only yo remove the old libc5 libraries, not their libc6 version, which zlib1g-dev is (because of the g and everything). But then maybe i am missing something. Friendly, Sven Luther

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 08:55:02AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 04:17:43PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > > zlib1 > > The ocaml bindings to zlib still build depend on zlib1g-dev. > Which is the newer alternative to this package? > Err, Zack, I say zlib1...

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Andreas Metzler
tdev) and zlib1g(-dev) are different packages, the former ones are for libc5, the latter ones link against libc6. cu andreas

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 04:17:43PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > zlib1 The ocaml bindings to zlib still build depend on zlib1g-dev. Which is the newer alternative to this package? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -- Master in Computer Science @ Uni. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debi

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:56:32AM +1200, Philip Charles wrote: > xpm4.7 is needed for WordPerfect 8. I have a mass of wp5.1 and wp8 > documents. In my experience, either AbiWord or KWord is able to read these documents. But of course, libwpd can't be perfect... you give some and take some :) -J

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Philip Charles wrote: > > And pester wordperfect^WCorel to use libraries from the current millenium. > > Or pester openoffice.org for a WP filter and booklet printing. I was going to mention OOo, but since I don't know what it can currently do, I wasn't about to put my foot

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Philip Charles wrote: > > > xpm4.7 is needed for WordPerfect 8. I have a mass of wp5.1 and wp8 > > documents. > > Note that the packages won't be removed from your system, they will simply > no longer be in the Debian archive. Thi

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Philip Charles wrote: > xpm4.7 is needed for WordPerfect 8. I have a mass of wp5.1 and wp8 > documents. Note that the packages won't be removed from your system, they will simply no longer be in the Debian archive. This *may* become a problem if you clean-install a future v

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Philip Charles
7;s a good moment to drop all the following i386-specific packages > which are libc5 related: > > libc5 > libc5-altdev > libc5-altdbg > altgcc > libdb1 > libdb1-altdev > libdl1 > libdl1-altdev > zlib1 > ldso > libg++27-altdev > libregex0-altdev > svgalib1

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Daniel Schepler
ry is missing some symbols for some reason. AFAICT, this happens completely at random (i.e. if I use pbuilder twice on the package, it might be broken one time and fine the next). > IMO it's a good moment to drop all the following i386-specific packages > which are libc5 related: I agre

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 04:17:43PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > IMO it's a good moment to drop all the following i386-specific packages > which are libc5 related: > zlib1 This is going to vanish shortly anyway unless the libc5 bug is fixed since it breaks zlib builds.

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > IMO it's a good moment to drop all the following i386-specific packages > which are libc5 related: > [SNIP] > > and others, partially. > > This could impact potentially very old (commercial mostly) binaries, > Co

Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
Hi all Someone could already know this amazing bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=196015 IMO it's a good moment to drop all the following i386-specific packages which are libc5 related: libc5 libc5-altdev libc5-altdbg altgcc libdb1 libdb1-altdev libdl1 libdl1-altdev

Re: apt-get upgrade unstable killed old libc5-compat FIXED

1999-09-21 Thread Mr. Christopher F. Miller
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 09:19:20PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > I've heard that the bug is in ld.so, and that the current potato > version of ldso fixes the problem. > > Can you verify or disprove that? > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul Yes. This new ldso fixed it wit

Re: apt-get upgrade unstable killed old libc5-compat

1999-09-21 Thread Robert Thomson
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 08:06:47PM -0500, Mr. Christopher F. Miller wrote: > RE: potato upgrade killed libc5 Yes, and it's now fixed with ldso 1.9.11-3, which should be propagating around the mirrors right now - if it isn't already. It's on ftp.debian.org atm. - Rob --

apt-get upgrade unstable killed old libc5-compat

1999-09-21 Thread Mr. Christopher F. Miller
RE: potato upgrade killed libc5 I ran an apt-get upgrade over the past weekend. That and/or an upgrade to new 2.2.12 kernel seems to have killed all my old binaries depending on libc5. Mostly the affected files amount to cruft. There is(was) a commercial xvscan with scanner support that died

Re: Recent potato libc5 is crashing

1999-09-18 Thread Junio Hamano
>>>>> "JNH" == Junio Hamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JNH> The changes between the upgrade I did Friday did not, as far as JNH> I can tell, involve libc5 nor xlib6. From the diff between JNH> /var/lib/dpkg/status* file, I did not see anything suspicio

Re: Recent potato libc5 is crashing

1999-09-18 Thread Junio Hamano
>>>>> "SW" == Shane Wegner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SW> It seems that Friday's potato upgrade broke libc5. I cannot seem to run any SW> binaries compiled against libc5 anymore. Unfortunately programs like l3dec SW> and such cannot be recompiled.

Recent potato libc5 is crashing

1999-09-18 Thread Shane Wegner
Hi, It seems that Friday's potato upgrade broke libc5. I cannot seem to run any binaries compiled against libc5 anymore. Unfortunately programs like l3dec and such cannot be recompiled. Weird thing is libc5 didn't change. Has anyone else seen this problem on their systems and any i

Re: libc5 sources missing for sparc

1999-01-24 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 11:14:18PM +0100, Eric Delaunay wrote: > > Debian/SPARC is still providing libc 5.3.12 in binary form but no sources. > I don't think the libc 5.4.46 is working for sparc, therefore we need to put > the 5.3.12 sources in slink again. > As the maintainer

libc5 sources missing for sparc

1999-01-24 Thread Eric Delaunay
Debian/SPARC is still providing libc 5.3.12 in binary form but no sources. I don't think the libc 5.4.46 is working for sparc, therefore we need to put the 5.3.12 sources in slink again. As the maintainer of libc5 I can do a new upload but I don't know whether the dinstall script will

Re: p3nfs (was Bug #21488: p3nfs linked against libc5)

1998-06-12 Thread Adam P. Harris
David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 08:35:47PM +0100, Chris Reed wrote: > >As listed in The Hamm Bugs Stamp-Out List for 1998-06-08, p3nfs is still > >linked against libc5, and the maintainer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Billy > >C.-M. Chow) ca

Re: p3nfs (was Bug #21488: p3nfs linked against libc5)

1998-06-10 Thread David Frey
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 08:35:47PM +0100, Chris Reed wrote: >As listed in The Hamm Bugs Stamp-Out List for 1998-06-08, p3nfs is still >linked against libc5, and the maintainer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Billy >C.-M. Chow) cannot be contacted. > >I have looked on ftp.uni-elargen.de:/p

p3nfs (was Bug #21488: p3nfs linked against libc5)

1998-06-09 Thread Chris Reed
As listed in The Hamm Bugs Stamp-Out List for 1998-06-08, p3nfs is still linked against libc5, and the maintainer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Billy C.-M. Chow) cannot be contacted. I have looked on ftp.uni-elargen.de:/pub/psion3/local/utilities and found a glibc diff for

Re: Making the libc5-libc6 upgrade to be safe (was: netstd...)

1998-04-19 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Santiago Vila wrote:' > >Please, tell me how much harm does to add a Pre-Depends field on libc6, >ncurses3.4 and libreadlineg2 for netstd. I can tell you how much >inconvenience does *not* to add it and then we can make a comparison >between those two inconveniences. Too much, IMHO. -- Christop

Re: Making the libc5-libc6 upgrade to be safe (was: netstd...)

1998-04-18 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Peter Tobias wrote: > On Apr 16, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Summary: In a bo system, I managed to upgrade netstd without installing > > libreadlineg2 first and the simple ftp client stopped working. This is a > > really bad situation I really

Re: Making the libc5-libc6 upgrade to be safe (was: netstd...)

1998-04-17 Thread Peter Tobias
On Apr 16, Santiago Vila wrote: > Summary: In a bo system, I managed to upgrade netstd without installing > libreadlineg2 first and the simple ftp client stopped working. This is a > really bad situation I really do not desire to anybody. > > This should not have happened if netstd would have a Pr

Re: Packages which are in frozen which are libc5 based (and shouldn't be)

1998-04-17 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
>termcap-compat-1.1.1(extra) Christian Hudon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> this should maybe go in oldlibs, but stay libc5 ! e.g. if you install Accerlarated X - their setup programm needs this library. i don't know, if a libc6 version of this is necessary, i hope not (that people fi

Packages which are in frozen which are libc5 based (and shouldn't be)

1998-04-16 Thread James Troup
Hi, On i386, the following packages are still libc5-based or have dependencies on libc5 based packages: dotfile-1:2.2-1 Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- depends on libc5 versions of tcl/tk gnats-tk-3.104-4 Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- di

Re: Making the libc5-libc6 upgrade to be safe (was: netstd...)

1998-04-16 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Santiago Vila wrote: > Please, tell me how much harm does to add a Pre-Depends field on libc6, > ncurses3.4 and libreadlineg2 for netstd. I can tell you how much > inconvenience does *not* to add it and then we can make a comparison > between those two inconveniences. I've h

Making the libc5-libc6 upgrade to be safe (was: netstd...)

1998-04-16 Thread Santiago Vila
will make the libc5 to lib6 upgrade *much* more robust. Perhaps people doing the upgrade by using the mini-howto or autoup.sh will not notice it (no harm with these extra Pre-Depends), but people doing the upgrade by using dselect will certainly notice it (possible harm, which we can avoid, and

hostname resolution for libc5-compat apps

1998-04-08 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
argue that this problem is due to the fact that ddd is a libc5-compat application. My nsswitch.conf says: hosts: files dns Is this a bug or is it my fault? Cheers, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

version 0.8 of libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-11 Thread Craig Sanders
--- #! /bin/sh DPKG=`which dpkg` LDCONFIG=`which ldconfig` # uncomment for debugging #set -x #DPKG="echo dpkg" #LDCONFIG="echo LDCONFIG" # upgrade a libc5 (bo) machine to libc6 (hamm). # based on Scott Ellis' excellent "Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO" # docu

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-11 Thread Matt Bartley
> This version should be close to good enough. The major change since > the last one that was posted is the ability to upgrade from files in > the current dir instead of a local mirror requirement. > > This script still needs testing. > # upgrade a libc5 (bo) mach

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-10 Thread Tim Sailer
Igor Grobman wrote: > > > This version should be close to good enough. The major change since the last > one that was posted is the ability to upgrade from files in the current dir > instead of a local mirror requirement. llug.sep.bnl.gov is a public nfs mount for debian. You can point the s

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-10 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote: > > > > Still one problem. /wg-15-locale/s//wg15-locale/ > > > damn. i thought i got that one this morning.

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote: > > > Still one problem. /wg-15-locale/s//wg15-locale/ > > damn. i thought i got that one this morning. > > i wont bother posting the script again. it's easy e

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-09 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote: > > Still one problem. /wg-15-locale/s//wg15-locale/ > damn. i thought i got that one this morning. > i wont bother posting the script again. it's easy enough to fix. Could this script be uploaded to ftp.debian

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote: > Still one problem. /wg-15-locale/s//wg15-locale/ damn. i thought i got that one this morning. i wont bother posting the script again. it's easy enough to fix. craig -- craig sanders -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsub

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-09 Thread Lindsay Allen
Still one problem. /wg-15-locale/s//wg15-locale/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj Debian Unix =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-08 Thread Craig Sanders
eb && dpkg -iB */perl_*.deb missed it entirely. ok, here's the next revision: ---cut here--- #! /bin/sh # safely upgrade a libc5 (bo) machine to libc6 (hamm). # based on Scott Ellis' excellent "Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO" # document at http://www.gate.net/

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-08 Thread Lindsay Allen
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: [snip] > dpkg -iB base/libgdbm1_*.deb devel/libgdbmg1_*.deb || exit 8 > # paranoia says "run ldconfig now". > ldconfig > dpkg -iB base/perl-base_*.deb interpreters/perl_*.deb Did you miss the change re perl? # perl-base must be configured before insta

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-08 Thread Craig Sanders
upgrade and suggest that more use be > made of this to bring the script to a halt after an error. done. > Is it OK to do the reboot asked for by the libc5 upgrade at the > completion of the script? yes, it's ok to type 'shutdown -r now'. no, i wont make the script do

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-08 Thread Guy Maor
I still have a not-quite-finished upgrade of the experimental dpkg-ftp done. I fixed some bugs and added immediate configuration of pre-depended on targets and essential packages. I also improved the backend logic so that it will only use later backends if the version is newer. For example, you

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 09:52:00AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > # development because libc5 can't be upgraded to latest without removal > > # of libc5-dev which also necessitates removal of other -dev packages > > # like li

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-08 Thread Lindsay Allen
cript to a halt after an error. Is it OK to do the reboot asked for by the libc5 upgrade at the completion of the script? --- cut here --- #! /bin/sh # some corrections by Lindsay Allen # upgrade a libc5 (bo) machine to libc6 (hamm). # based on Scott Ellis' excellent "Debian libc5

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 09:52:00AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > # development because libc5 can't be upgraded to latest without removal > # of libc5-dev which also necessitates removal of other -dev packages > # like libdb1-dev and libdl1-dev if they are installed. > > DEV

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-07 Thread James Troup
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > cd /debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386 Grr. cd /debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture) -- James - Hardcoded-i[345]86 detection alarm triggered -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsub

libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-07 Thread Craig Sanders
machine they want to test this on? I haven't got any left, they're all upgraded now :-) --- cut here --- #! /bin/sh # upgrade a libc5 (bo) machine to libc6 (hamm). # based on Scott Ellis' excellent "Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO" # document. # first, build up a lis

Re: New Maintainer for libc5/libc6

1998-01-05 Thread Richard Braakman
Okay. The version I sent you contains two fixes (aside from the extra changelog entries). Ray Dassen added an entry for libc5-dbg to the control file (both debian/control and debian/control.hamm). This is necessary because the debian/rules file tries to build libc5-dbg, and fails if it doesn&#

Re: New Maintainer for libc5/libc6

1998-01-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
38/debian/control --- libc-5.4.38.orig/debian/control Mon Dec 29 20:23:05 1997 +++ libc-5.4.38/debian/control Mon Dec 29 17:47:18 1997 @@ -12,8 +12,6 @@ These libraries are modified to make them work better in a libc6 environment. PRE-DEPENDS: ldso (>=1.7.14-2) -DEPENDS: libc6 (>

Re: Non-interactive installs [Re: need libc5 non-maintainer upgrade]

1998-01-05 Thread bruce
I think there should be a set-params script in all packages that require interaction. This script should get params from the user, store them in COAS repository, and then the pre-inst and post-inst should use those parameters, getting them from COAS. The set-params script should not require that th

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