Re: pine license

2005-05-12 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 08:44:42AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 10:33:18AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, there's nano -- and if you want the pine UI, most people recommend > > > mutt with a .muttrc that contain

Re: pine license

2005-05-11 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 10:33:18AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Well, there's nano -- and if you want the pine UI, most people recommend > > mutt with a .muttrc that contains pine-style keybindings. > > > > At least that's what I used when switching fr

Re: pine license

2005-05-11 Thread Miles Bader
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, there's nano -- and if you want the pine UI, most people recommend > mutt with a .muttrc that contains pine-style keybindings. > > At least that's what I used when switching from pine to mutt... Does that actually offer the "pine experience" thou

Re: pine license

2005-05-11 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 11 May 2005 03:33:41 -0400 Glenn Maynard wrote: > I fully agree that we should cooperate with what copyright holders > want, in general. What I remember, however, was that Pine was under a > clearly Free license, and UW played word lawyer ("modify and > distribute", was it?) Yes, see for

Re: pine license

2005-05-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 12:28:29AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > Also, if I recall correctly, there was a gnu project to write a pine > replacement, but I don't know where that stands. Probably it's > not complete because of a lack of development effort. Well, there's nano -- and if you want the pi

Re: pine license

2005-05-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 12:28:29AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > On 5/10/05, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the past, UW has (in my opinion) played deliberate word games to > > retroactively revoke the Freeness of a prior Pine license, and this license &g

Re: pine license

2005-05-10 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/10/05, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the past, UW has (in my opinion) played deliberate word games to > retroactively revoke the Freeness of a prior Pine license, and this license > is clearly non-free *without* any such stretching or contriving. I don'

Re: pine license

2005-05-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
they are not in a hurry to fix. But the authors of Pine > don't mind at all. They even have a page of links to third party ports [1] > for heavens sake! As the copyright of Pine is owned by UofW, and not the authors of Pine, their opinion is--unfortuantely!--of little relevance. In the p

Re: pine license

2005-05-10 Thread Miles Bader
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We don't distribute it because we follow the letter of their > license which unfortunately doesn't match their intentions and even more > unfortunately they are not in a hurry to fix. But the authors of Pine > don't mind at all. They even have a pag

Re: pine license

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [was Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move] > > On Tue, 10 May 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> > Just establish the non-free section and move everything over. If anyone >> > complains then just drop the package they're complaining about. Of course,

pine license

2005-05-10 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
[was Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move] On Tue, 10 May 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Just establish the non-free section and move everything over. If anyone > > complains then just drop the package they're complaining about. Of course, > > NO ONE is going to complain since they know we will