Eike Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Andrew Suffield schrieb:
> > He doesn't need to, he can be slapped down.
>
> "Keine Gewalt!" ("No violence!")
>
> > We don't ignore minor issues just because there are major ones.
>
> So let's hope Robert can cope with minor issues
> and only talk about
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Excuse the tautology, but I find it can be useful sometimes to look at
> requirements separate from the implementation, and try to come up with
> an alternate implementation that meets the same requirements. That other
> thread is too long for me to know for
Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 19:31, Adam Heath wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Santiago Vila wrote:
> >
> > > If Robert is such an incompetent developer as some people say and the
> > > package does not build on the 11 different architectures, then the
> > > p
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Eike Sauer wrote:
>
> > What about letting Robert build and upload (if ftp-masters agree)
> > his package, *if* he puts it in experimental, uses a description
> > that contains a warning about the experimental status of the
> > pack
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Problems of this approach, off the top of my head:
>
> a. Having a binary package of the same name that is produced by
> different source packages on different architectures may or may not
> drive the archive maintainence scripts nuts. On the other han
Excuse the tautology, but I find it can be useful sometimes to look at
requirements separate from the implementation, and try to come up with
an alternate implementation that meets the same requirements. That other
thread is too long for me to know for sure what all the requirements of
the proposed
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I am surprised at the vehemence at someone who dares do something new. I
> don't care whether his approach is technically valid or not: as long as
> he doesn't harm anyone, there's no point in preventing him. Mass
> attacking someone who actually does things, and doesn't jus
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Santiago Vila wrote:
> You are right. I missed that little detail. But anyway you can submit
> a serious FTBFS bug if that happens to be the case. Do the testing scripts
> ignore serious bugs?
A FTBFS bug is only supposed to be considered serious if the package
previously bui
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 02:05:50PM +0100, Eike Sauer wrote:
> Andreas Metzler schrieb:
> > Eike Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> There already are several packages with complete
> >> kernel sources which take as much place as his package
> >> would, right?
> > Robert does not propose to remove
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 09:36:30AM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote:
>
> Robert does not propose to remove the existing kernel-source packages
> therefore the calculation is simple - more than 100MB required space
Approximately. It depends on how many architectures can be supported.
> in exchange fo
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:30:54PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> - this packages adds nothing, and would occupy a fair chunk of space
>in the archive. The "advantages" cited were rapidly debunked and no
>more were given.
I haven't seen any of them being debunked. The only exception is t
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 06:22:13PM +0100, Eike Sauer wrote:
> Hello!
Hi Eike,
> The discussion doesn't seem to be very productive any more.
> Time to come to a compromise?
Sounds nice.
> What about letting Robert build and upload (if ftp-masters agree)
> his package, *if* he puts it in experime
Andreas Metzler schrieb:
> Eike Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> There already are several packages with complete
>> kernel sources which take as much place as his package
>> would, right?
> Robert does not propose to remove the existing kernel-source packages
Even he was a bit vague about that
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Santiago Vila wrote:
>
> > If Robert is such an incompetent developer as some people say and the
> > package does not build on the 11 different architectures, then the
> > package will not propagate to testing and the world will be safe
Eike Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrew Suffield schrieb:
[...]
>> - this packages adds nothing, and would occupy a fair chunk of space
>>in the archive.
> I don't know how short Debian is of space.
> How large would Robert's packages be?
~30MB for linux_2.4.22.orig.tar.gz and a sing
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 19:31, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Santiago Vila wrote:
>
> > If Robert is such an incompetent developer as some people say and the
> > package does not build on the 11 different architectures, then the
> > package will not propagate to testing and the world will
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Santiago Vila wrote:
> If Robert is such an incompetent developer as some people say and the
> package does not build on the 11 different architectures, then the
> package will not propagate to testing and the world will be safe from
> the disaster.
You misunderstand how test
Andrew Suffield schrieb:
> He doesn't need to, he can be slapped down.
"Keine Gewalt!" ("No violence!")
> We don't ignore minor issues just because there are major ones.
So let's hope Robert can cope with minor issues
and only talk about the big ones for now.
> - this packages adds nothing, a
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Eike Sauer wrote:
> What about letting Robert build and upload (if ftp-masters agree)
> his package, *if* he puts it in experimental, uses a description
> that contains a warning about the experimental status of the
> package in a prominent place, and not calling it "linux", b
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 06:22:13PM +0100, Eike Sauer wrote:
> The discussion doesn't seem to be very productive any more.
> Time to come to a compromise?
>
> Obviously, Robert is not going to retreat.
He doesn't need to, he can be slapped down.
> OTOH, most people (publicly) stating anything abo
ma, 2003-11-10 kello 19:22, Eike Sauer kirjoitti:
> The discussion doesn't seem to be very productive any more.
> Time to come to a compromise?
Yes, please.
I am surprised at the vehemence at someone who dares do something new. I
don't care whether his approach is technically valid or not: as lon
Hello!
The discussion doesn't seem to be very productive any more.
Time to come to a compromise?
Obviously, Robert is not going to retreat.
He has put much time in posting already and hopefully will
spend much more time in making a good package (if this is
possible). So let him build his packag
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