Re: Storing additional metadata in the dpkg database [Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?]

2012-10-22 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 05:44:25 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > On 08.10.2012 22:53, Guillem Jover wrote: > > That applies as well to any path generated at maintainer script or > > run time by the package (like state, cache, log files, etc), but I > > don't think it's currently a good idea for these t

Re: Storing additional metadata in the dpkg database [Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?]

2012-10-09 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi guillem! On 08.10.2012 22:53, Guillem Jover wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:02:57 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> On 08.10.2012 20:15, Michael Gilbert wrote: >> I actually find it pretty handy if I can use dpkg -S to find out which >> package a particular directory belongs to. >> So shippi

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/09/2012 02:53 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: And? It's perfectly possible to share directories between multiple packages. The fact that /var/run/mysql/ would be owned by multiple packages is no different from the fact that /var/run/ is already owned by multiple packages: $ dpkg -S /var/run bas

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-08 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 09 Oct 2012, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Imagine for a minute that we have 2 implementation of the same service. > Lets say, for this example, MariaDB and MySQL (this is *not* a real world > example, since last time I checked, we don't have MariaDB in Debian but > it well could be a real proble

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/09/2012 02:15 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: The thing is that it really does no harm if a package actually does this; although it is pretty pointless since those files will be gone after reboot. So, even though policy says "must not", it's not really a problem in practice, so important is pr

Re: Storing additional metadata in the dpkg database [Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?]

2012-10-08 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:02:57 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > On 08.10.2012 20:15, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> "Packages must not include files or directories under /run, > >> or under the older /var/run and /var/lock paths." > > > > Th

Storing additional metadata in the dpkg database [Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?]

2012-10-08 Thread Michael Biebl
On 08.10.2012 20:15, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> "Packages must not include files or directories under /run, >> or under the older /var/run and /var/lock paths." > > The thing is that it really does no harm if a package actually does > this; al

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-08 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Michael Gilbert , 2012-10-08, 14:15: "Packages must not include files or directories under /run, or under the older /var/run and /var/lock paths." The thing is that it really does no harm if a package actually does this Given that /var/lock is world-writable in Debian, and that dpkg follows

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-08 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 10/08/2012 01:21 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: >>> Would it be appropriate to file RC bugs against all the packages >>> shipping anything in /var/run, /var/lock or /run? >>> >> No, there's nothing wrong with that. >> >> Cheers, >> Julien > > Li

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-08 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 08/10/2012 12:33, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 10/08/2012 01:21 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 23:16:05 +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I haven't made a detailed analysis, yet, and cannot say how many >>> packages would be affected. Right now I have about

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/08/2012 01:21 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 23:16:05 +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: Hi, I haven't made a detailed analysis, yet, and cannot say how many packages would be affected. Right now I have about 100 candidate piuparts logs that should cover /var/run and /var/

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 23:16:05 +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > Hi, > > I haven't made a detailed analysis, yet, and cannot say how many > packages would be affected. Right now I have about 100 candidate > piuparts logs that should cover /var/run and /var/lock, but I haven't > sorted them in "b

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/06/2012 03:16 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 10/06/2012 05:46 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: Anyone who wants to take this easy job? Since I don't have to analyze piuparts logs for getting the data ... Andreas Hi, I'll try to send bugs *with patches* over this week end. Thomas Goirand (zigo

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/06/2012 05:46 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: Anyone who wants to take this easy job? Since I don't have to analyze piuparts logs for getting the data ... Andreas Hi, I'll try to send bugs *with patches* over this week end. Thomas Goirand (zigo) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-re

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-05 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 11:35:53PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Andreas Beckmann , 2012-10-05, 23:16: > >I haven't made a detailed analysis, yet, and cannot say how many > >packages would be affected. Right now I have about 100 candidate > >piuparts logs that should cover /var/run and /var/lock, bu

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-05 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2012-10-05 23:35, Jakub Wilk wrote: > Lintian should be able to spot all the buggy ones, shouldn't it? Good point. > http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dir-or-file-in-run.html 0 :-) > http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dir-or-file-in-var-run.html 28 (6 overridden) > http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dir

Re: possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-05 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Andreas Beckmann , 2012-10-05, 23:16: I haven't made a detailed analysis, yet, and cannot say how many packages would be affected. Right now I have about 100 candidate piuparts logs that should cover /var/run and /var/lock, but I haven't sorted them in "buggy", "depends on buggy", "other prob

possible mass bug filing for packages shipping stuff in /var/run, /var/lock, /run?

2012-10-05 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Hi, I haven't made a detailed analysis, yet, and cannot say how many packages would be affected. Right now I have about 100 candidate piuparts logs that should cover /var/run and /var/lock, but I haven't sorted them in "buggy", "depends on buggy", "other problem". I expect the buggy category to be