Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-18 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 01:14:07AM +0100, Rich Walker wrote: Yes, to rely on 1300 developers to all think of your cunning method of solving a problem clearly makes sense. After all, to *write down* a technique that solves the problem, and make it available to all of them would stilt their

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-18 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20050717T213903-0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 20050716T195244-0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: That's a far cry different from someone wanting to enforce a requirement. Who, in this thread, is this hypothetical someone?

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-17 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20050716T195244-0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: That's a far cry different from someone wanting to enforce a requirement. Who, in this thread, is this hypothetical someone? As far as I can tell, this thread started with a simple question: is there a policy for a certain thing? There were

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 10:11:34 +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 20050716T195244-0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: That's a far cry different from someone wanting to enforce a requirement. Who, in this thread, is this hypothetical someone? As far as I can tell, this

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-17 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20050717T025707-0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: A little reading comprehension on your part would help a bit here. Hint: dict policy would help. The discussion started wuth a wuestion of _policy_. Once you comprehend what that word means, you'll see what Thomas meant. I

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:35:14 +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 20050717T025707-0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: A little reading comprehension on your part would help a bit here. Hint: dict policy would help. The discussion started wuth a wuestion of _policy_. Once you

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 01:54:48PM -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:42:44 +0200, Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 20050716T195244-0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: That's a far cry different from someone wanting to enforce a requirement. Who, in this thread, is this hypothetical someone? Right. Manoj asked: why should we have a requirement? Someone

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-16 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [cranky but funny stuff] If there ever is a blackball commitee, Manoj of all people belongs on it. :-) Cheers, - Michael

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, to rely on 1300 developers to all think of your cunning method of solving a problem clearly makes sense. After all, to *write down* a technique that solves the problem, and make it available to all of them would stilt their creativity, hinder their

unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a year and the version increased to a major version during the time. Regards Nico -- Nico Golde - JAB: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GPG: 0x73647CFF

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a year and the version increased to a major version during the time. I tend to request the user for more info with the new version; so add

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-15 16:12]: is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a year and the version increased to a major version during the time. I tend to

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:42:44 +0200, Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a year and the version increased to a major version during the

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:42:44 +0200, Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an ability to think, or exercise any judgement whatsoever?

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-15 20:08]: On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:42:44 +0200, Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:11:15PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: no of course not but it would be good to have a reference value. it seems something that would be most appropriate as a guideline supplied in the debian developers' reference. sean -- signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * sean finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-15 20:43]: On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:11:15PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: no of course not but it would be good to have a reference value. it seems something that would be most appropriate as a guideline supplied in the debian developers'

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an ability to think, or exercise any judgement whatsoever? Welcome to the software industry

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Steve Greenland
On 15-Jul-05, 11:12 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an ability to think, or exercise any judgement whatsoever? Probably the growing

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Rich Walker
Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an ability to think, or exercise any judgement

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/15/05, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Rich Walker
Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7/15/05, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/15/05, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having a hard time reading this as anything but a non sequitur. Umm; it follows more from Manoj's comment than yours. Ah. OK. Personally, I prefer for a solution to be demonstrated to work, both socially and technically, before it

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Rich Walker
Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7/15/05, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having a hard time reading this as anything but a non sequitur. Umm; it follows more from Manoj's comment than yours. Ah. OK. Should have sent two postings :- Personally, I prefer for a

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/15/05, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (As a practicing SubGenius, I like to think of the ornery, cussing Debian, up there with the Two-Fisted Jesus, and the Butting Buddha. Others may have other views) As a practicing Episcopatheist, I like to murmur, There is no God, and

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:14:07 +0100, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:43:46 +0100, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You scale an organisation, I understand, by removing the *need* for everyone in it to be a genius at everything it does. Hence the comment about the US army: designed by genius to be run by sergeants. Ah yes.