Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Adam Heath wrote: /usr/bin/vi should be an alternative for vi-compatible editors. /usr/bin/vi should then be an alternative that is hooked into /usr/bin/editor. But, but, but... How does it work if /usr/bin/vi is an alternative hooked into /usr/bin/editor? What package would own that hook?

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Georg Neis wrote: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=121303 Elvis as the standard editor (priority 120) is not very convenient. Imagine a newbie thrown into elvis, and he will be lost, and cannot quit:( This bugreport says that the elvis package (a vi clone) uses a too high

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 11:00:56PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Georg Neis wrote: This bugreport says that the elvis package (a vi clone) uses a too high priority for the 'editor'-alternative (or for all alternatives?). Which changes do you propose? As I read the original bug report and

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Michael Piefel
Am 25.07.03 um 09:21:47 schrieb Colin Watson: /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also invoked by programs as the default editor. Shouldn't that be sensible-editor? Bye, Mike -- |=| Michael Piefel |=| Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin |=| Tel. (+49 30) 2093 3831

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:05:25AM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote: Am 25.07.03 um 09:21:47 schrieb Colin Watson: /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also invoked by programs as the default editor. Shouldn't that be sensible-editor? Which calls editor if $VISUAL and

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:21:47 +0100, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also invoked by programs as the default editor. And, if vim is the only editor installed on the system, it had better be the default editor for such programs!

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
Michael Piefel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 25.07.03 um 09:21:47 schrieb Colin Watson: /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also invoked by programs as the default editor. Shouldn't that be sensible-editor? No. see policy. sensible-editor is just for programs for which

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:22:42AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:21:47 +0100, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also invoked by programs as the default editor. And, if vim is the only editor installed

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Michael Piefel
Am 25.07.03 um 11:38:33 schrieb Andreas Metzler: No. see policy. sensible-editor is just for programs for which it is very hard to adapt a program to make use of the EDITOR or PAGER variables Okay, so when somebody is not able to set their EDITOR variable, isn't it quite safe to assume that

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:43:52PM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote: Okay, so when somebody is not able to set their EDITOR variable, isn't it quite safe to assume that they are not the people who are satisfied with vi as their editor? It could also be that they are people who only ever uses vi

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:05:25AM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote: Am 25.07.03 um 09:21:47 schrieb Colin Watson: /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also invoked by programs as the default editor. Shouldn't that be sensible-editor? Which

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Colin Watson wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: I personally would not have had either elvis or vim supply an alternative for /usr/bin/editor. I don't mind lowering the priority of vi clones, or whatever; but please don't try to get them removed from the editor alternative. It's quite sufficient to

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:11:05AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:05:25AM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote: Shouldn't that be sensible-editor? Which calls editor if $VISUAL and $EDITOR aren't set, yes. Interesting that if sensible-editor fails to

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Mario Lang
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:21:47 +0100, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: /usr/bin/editor is not only something invoked directly. It's also invoked by programs as the default editor. And, if vim is the only editor installed on the system, it had

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Bob Proulx wrote: As I read the original bug report and apply my own spin onto it I see the original poster was concerned that a user invoking /usr/bin/editor is probably not wanting either of the traditional vi or emacs editors. They are probably a user that wants a

Re: update-alternatives priorities for editors

2003-07-25 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Heath wrote: /usr/bin/vi should be an alternative for vi-compatible editors. /usr/bin/vi should then be an alternative that is hooked into /usr/bin/editor. Yeah, I've always wanted to resolve 6 levels of symlinks to get to my editor. -- see shy jo pgpULHcwFmFrZ.pgp Description: PGP