Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-22 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 07:50 +0200, Martin Samuelsson wrote: Wouldn't it make more sense to close bugs that hasn't recieved more info in X days than bugs that had their initial post in Y days? Some packages are trickier than others to create and may therefor take more time. As long as people

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-22 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 12:03 +0200, Vedran Furac wrote: than 600 days by tonight (or if anything goes wrong -I have an exam Before you do that: Yeah, I know there are packages that should not be closed, probably, and they could just hide from the view and be closed. What I really trust is

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-15 Thread Jari Aalto
Bas Zoetekouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi David! About ITP's, they should be retitled to RFPs, rather than closed. That way, other people can have a go at packaging the software. I concur. If someone did not produce a packge withing NN days (say 3 months) after ITP, the system should

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-15 Thread Christian Marillat
Paul TBBle Hampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:34:51PM +0200, Vedran Furac wrote: Btw. why then mencoder, can't be packaged? Why are only ffmpeg -dev in debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/ffmpeg.html? Only ffmpeg-dev is in Debian as ffmpeg upstream recommends

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi David! You wrote: Talking with adn on IRC, I've decided to launch an script that will close every opened ITP and RFP bug on the BTS with a lifetime greater than 600 days by tonight (or if anything goes wrong -I have an exam tomorrow noon-, by tomorrow night). I'll point to documentation

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Vedran Furac
David Moreno Garza wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:02 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: But my intention was not to read the whole list and do this by hand! This should be done by the same script which sends the sem automated mails to the BTS. As there is a consensus that it is a good idea to

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Christian Marillat
Vedran Furac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Moreno Garza wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:02 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: [...] - note that there is software that probably can't be packaged: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=203211

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Vedran Furac
Christian Marillat wrote: Vedran Furac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Moreno Garza wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:02 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: [...] - note that there is software that probably can't be packaged: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=203211

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Christian Marillat
Vedran Furac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Marillat wrote: Vedran Furac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Package already in Debian : gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg Ops, then it should be closed. Btw. why then mencoder, can't be packaged? Why are only ffmpeg -dev in Normaly, encoder can't be

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:34:51PM +0200, Vedran Furac wrote: Btw. why then mencoder, can't be packaged? Why are only ffmpeg -dev in debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/ffmpeg.html? Only ffmpeg-dev is in Debian as ffmpeg upstream recommends static linking due to not having fixed the

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 07:50 +0200, Martin Samuelsson wrote: Wouldn't it make more sense to close bugs that hasn't recieved more info in X days than bugs that had their initial post in Y days? Some packages are trickier than others to create and may therefor take more time. As long as people

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 12:03 +0200, Vedran Furac wrote: than 600 days by tonight (or if anything goes wrong -I have an exam Before you do that: Yeah, I know there are packages that should not be closed, probably, and they could just hide from the view and be closed. What I really trust is

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-09-13 10:37]: ti, 2005-09-13 kello 01:45 +0200, Alexander Schmehl kirjoitti: Close RFP after ... uhm... let's say 1 year inactivity and send the submitter an apology, that we couldn't find a volunteer for the requested package, should to very

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-09-13 10:37]: There was a discussion about closing old RFPs on -project in the middle of July (around the 13th, I think). I really should get acting on the consensus of that thread and close the old RFPs. But my

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050913 02:46]: [ long RFPs ] Or don't even open RFP bugs in the first place because they're thoroughly useless? Do you have a proposal for a better way on how our users can request / suggest software to be packaged? I don't think RFPs per se are useless -

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Alexander Schmehl] I don't think RFPs per se are useless - actually I have a list of some 20 RFPs I would like to take a deeper look to, as soon as I have some time - it's just that it's difficult to look at so many wnpps. I agree. There are packages I would like to assist into the archive

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Radu Spineanu
Hi! Do you have a proposal for a better way on how our users can request / suggest software to be packaged? I don't think RFPs per se are useless - actually I have a list of some 20 RFPs I would like to take a deeper look to, as soon as I have some time - it's just that it's difficult to

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Brian Nelson
Alexander Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! * Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050913 02:46]: [ long RFPs ] Or don't even open RFP bugs in the first place because they're thoroughly useless? Do you have a proposal for a better way on how our users can request / suggest software to be

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Radu Spineanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you have a proposal for a better way on how our users can request / suggest software to be packaged? I don't think RFPs per se are useless - actually I have a list of some 20 RFPs I would like to take a deeper look to, as soon as I have some time -

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 13:05 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Perhaps we should have some voting mechanism, to let users tell us which missing packages are most wanted? Probably something like a rfp-request-seconded tag on the bug could work. Although rfp-request is somehow redundant. Cheers,

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: David Moreno Garza in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Probably something like a rfp-request-seconded tag on the bug could work. Although rfp-request is somehow redundant. Maybe some usertags-hack? But then, the people who know how that works could as well package the RFP themselves... Christoph --

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 19:06 +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Maybe it would a good idea to create a new web interface for the wnpp bugs. At least something that has the ability to put ITPs,RFPs in separate pages, You mean like http://www.us.debian.org/devel/wnpp/? But the proposal on

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005, Christoph Berg wrote: Maybe some usertags-hack? That is exactly what we are working on, with Clément Stenac and Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt. Here[1] is a list of tags we intend to use. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/WNPPBugsTagging Please no Cc:, I read the list. -- Mohammed

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 19:36 +0200, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: [1] http://wiki.debian.org/WNPPBugsTagging This is a great work, thanks. Is there any plan to start using it and tagging? Cheers, -- David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.damog.net/ [EMAIL

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050913 19:11]: Perhaps we should have some voting mechanism, to let users tell us which missing packages are most wanted? Probably something like a rfp-request-seconded tag on the bug could work. Although rfp-request is somehow redundant. Currently

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Radu Spineanu
Radu Spineanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At least something that has the ability to put ITPs,RFPs in separate pages, You mean like http://www.us.debian.org/devel/wnpp/? Yes, something like that. But change the information shown on each page depending of the type of wnpp entry. For example,

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:06:22PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: * David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050913 19:11]: Perhaps we should have some voting mechanism, to let users tell us which missing packages are most wanted? Probably something like a rfp-request-seconded tag on the

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050913 21:35]: [ vote for RFPs ] Currently everyone interested in such a package could send a me too mail to the report... That isn't going to do much good if nobody ever reads them. For a me too thing to be useful, it needs to be immediately clear that

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Mohammed Adnène Trojette [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-09-13 22:21]: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005, Christoph Berg wrote: Maybe some usertags-hack? That is exactly what we are working on, with Clément Stenac and Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt. Here[1] is a list of tags we intend to use. [1]

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 20:36, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005, Christoph Berg wrote: Maybe some usertags-hack? That is exactly what we are working on, with Clément Stenac and Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt. Here[1] is a list of tags we intend to use. [1]

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:02 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: But my intention was not to read the whole list and do this by hand! This should be done by the same script which sends the sem automated mails to the BTS. As there is a consensus that it is a good idea to close long-inactive RFPs

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Talking with adn on IRC, I've decided to launch an script that will close every opened ITP and RFP bug on the BTS with a lifetime greater than 600 days by tonight (or if anything goes wrong -I have an exam tomorrow noon-, by tomorrow night).

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Nathanael Nerode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no good reason to close old RFPs unless the upstream source has diseappeared. The spectacular amount of clutter they provide -- rendering the wnpp bug list unreadable unless you ignore them all -- combined with their total uselessness? Seems like a pair of

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 19:47 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: There is no good reason to close old RFPs unless the upstream source has diseappeared. Old ITPs should be turned into RFPs, not closed. Well, actually the wnpp bugs are probably the dirtiest part on the BTS: Understanding dirtiest

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no good reason to close old RFPs unless the upstream source has diseappeared. The spectacular amount of clutter they provide -- rendering the wnpp bug list unreadable unless you ignore them all -- combined with

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is no good reason to close old RFPs unless the upstream source has diseappeared. Old ITPs should be turned into RFPs, not closed. I don't agree. If there's no current interest in having the package created, having the bug open actually

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Martin Samuelsson
David Moreno Garza @ 2005-09-13 (Tuesday), 18:06 (-0500) Talking with adn on IRC, I've decided to launch an script that will close every opened ITP and RFP bug on the BTS with a lifetime greater than 600 days by tonight Wouldn't it make more sense to close bugs that hasn't recieved more info

wnpp situation

2005-09-12 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, If you go through the list of wnpp bugs you will see alot of open bugs which are very very old. Especially the RFPs. What about closing an RFP bug automatically after the third semi automatic notice mail which is sent to the BTS entry? Regards Nico -- Nico Golde - JAB: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-12 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:47:33AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: Hi, If you go through the list of wnpp bugs you will see alot of open bugs which are very very old. Especially the RFPs. What about closing an RFP bug automatically after the third semi automatic notice mail which is sent to the

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-12 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Andrew Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-09-13 01:07]: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:47:33AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: Hi, If you go through the list of wnpp bugs you will see alot of open bugs which are very very old. Especially the RFPs. What about closing an RFP bug automatically

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-12 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050913 00:47]: Especially the RFPs. What about closing an RFP bug automatically after the third semi automatic notice mail which is sent to the BTS entry? What is the purpose of this mail? Either there is someone interested in packaging it, or you won't find

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-12 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2005-09-13 kello 01:45 +0200, Alexander Schmehl kirjoitti: Close RFP after ... uhm... let's say 1 year inactivity and send the submitter an apology, that we couldn't find a volunteer for the requested package, should to very well. There was a discussion about closing old RFPs on -project

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-12 Thread Brian Nelson
Andrew Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:47:33AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: Hi, If you go through the list of wnpp bugs you will see alot of open bugs which are very very old. Especially the RFPs. What about closing an RFP bug automatically after the third semi