Re: UTF-8 manual pages

2007-10-12 Thread Colin Watson
like to do that by default, as otherwise we get a few pages that are put there anyway to disambiguate) or use a coding: declaration in the file. This is documented in manconv(1). Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-13 Thread Colin Watson
and indeed that's what groff's info documentation recommends. > #!/bin/bash > ### check-man-periods.sh --- Check man pages for ``period bugs'' -*- Sh -*- I very much recommend against any attempt to parse *roff in shell, FWIW. Even man-db's flex parser is ultimately doo

Re: Bug#377392: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-17 Thread Colin Watson
ning which can have a more informative description, and ideally a way for the developer to reproduce the problem. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-17 Thread Colin Watson
1.gz 27: warning: `TR' not defined > W: db4.4-util: manpage-has-errors-from-man > usr/share/man/man1/db4.4_deadlock.1.gz 50: warning: `TR' not defined > W: db4.4-util: manpage-has-errors-from-man usr/share/man/man1/db4.4_load.1.gz > 127: warning: `TR' not defined > W: db4

Re: Bug#377392: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 06:50:18PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> W: dpkg-dev: manpage-has-errors-from-man > >> usr/share/man/man1/dpkg-architecture.1.gz 104: warning: `C`' not defined > > > I'm not entir

Re: Injecting versions of build-deps in the deps

2007-12-07 Thread Colin Watson
ency. I wonder if the objections raised to this suggestion could be addressed by making it optional in some way - perhaps either by requiring it to be manually enabled for each library by some kind of shlibs/symbols-like system, or by providing support for libraries to declare themselves exempt fr

Re: Proposalto introduce compiler options passed from dpkg-buildpackage

2007-12-07 Thread Colin Watson
y work. What possible errors are you thinking of, other than "debian/rules fails to honour a certain variable" (i.e. the status quo)? I can't really think why you'd set CFLAGS in the environment without wanting it to be honoured. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CoverCD Agreement - Linux+ magazine

2007-12-11 Thread Colin Watson
does a cover CD agreement involve? Bear in mind that we are not a company with an established legal department, but an association of volunteers. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: why does ubuntu cripple alsa?!?

2007-12-11 Thread Colin Watson
ather than to Debian mailing lists. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Colin Watson
packages actually do need to shut down cleanly; in the case of a database, for example, such a change could cause data loss. Thus I wouldn't recommend changing the default, but perhaps providing a more convenient single option to do that common task would be good. -- Colin Watson

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-02 Thread Colin Watson
com/Teardown), then you might as well just let sendsigs do that since it's going to do so anyway. This isn't "not doing clean shutdowns" - it's just rationalising away multiple init scripts called on shutdown that are duplicating work done by a core script. Cheers,

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 06:29:09AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 09:50 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 00:29 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > >> Some packages actually

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-02 Thread Colin Watson
ion given a binary package, I feel that a Lintian test risks prompting inexperienced maintainers to err on the side of incaution and set an incorrect Architecture field. I appreciate the zeal involved in cleaning up those packages which are any when they should be all, but is a Lintian test for

Re: some packges are waiting for i386 build

2008-01-02 Thread Colin Watson
hat works) * an i386 chroot within which you run sbuild, with the actual buildd chroots nested inside that -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-02 Thread Colin Watson
to shut down cleanly? If so, it wouldn't be a candidate for this refactoring. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Util-linux mount function source code

2008-01-04 Thread Colin Watson
a syscall stub. The actual mount syscall implementation is in fs/namespace.c in the kernel source, and I suspect it's this you're interested in rather than the fiddly details of how a userspace function call turns into a syscall. Start at the sys_mount

Bug#459776: RFP: manpages-cs -- Czech manual pages

2008-01-08 Thread Colin Watson
e of Czech manual pages. I don't speak Czech so I wouldn't be very good at maintaining this. Perhaps a Czech-speaking developer could do so? Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of &q

Re: Bug#459776: RFP: manpages-cs -- Czech manual pages

2008-01-09 Thread Colin Watson
al yet because some more adjustments are necessary, you can put UTF-8 manual pages in /usr/share/man/cs/ right now and it will work fine. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "un

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-11 Thread Colin Watson
the same? I don't know about hol88-library, but grub builds with -m32 on amd64. Nevertheless, it's still architecture-dependent; it builds different binaries on Linux and the Hurd, and also the grub package should not be in Packages for architectures to which it hasn't been ported. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#459403: libuuid1: missing depends on non-essential package passwd

2008-01-12 Thread Colin Watson
tial isn't closed under dependency). Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Possible mass bug filing: missing shared library dependencies

2008-01-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 07:13:43PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >libfilter-perl Fixed in 1.31-2. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: dh_shlibdeps and -dbg packages

2008-01-17 Thread Colin Watson
b/debug for real unstripped libraries. Shouldn't > everyone use detached debugging symbols now, or is there really enough > utility in building a separate debugging version libraries to warrant the > additional user complexity of using them? I understand from Matthias that Python

Debian OpenSSH commit access

2010-01-01 Thread Colin Watson
, produce patches, and send them upstream. For good measure, I've also added PuTTY to the pkg-ssh repository. If any other maintainers of SSH implementations in Debian are interested in joining this project, please get in touch. Thanks, -- Colin Watson

Re: Processed: ipv6 release goal

2010-03-23 Thread Colin Watson
at all. Ben is replying to a BTS notification that many of these bugs were upgraded to severity 'serious' by Clint Adams. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Bug#533708: ITP: libhugetlbfs -- Tools and Library access huge pages of memory

2010-03-23 Thread Colin Watson
to use this to edit /etc/fstab. (This seems to be partially covered by #572733.) (You could of course work around my objections by using a dynamic GID and an init script, but I agree with you that that is not so desirable.) -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@

Re: Applied-Upstream field for Patch Tagging Guidelines (DEP-3)

2010-03-29 Thread Colin Watson
explosions. +Forwarded: http://lists.example.com/2010/03/1234.html +Author: John Doe +Applied-Upstream: 1.2, http://bzr.example.com/frobnicator/trunk/revision/123 +Last-Update: 2010-03-29 + Related links - Thanks, -- Colin Watson

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-27 Thread Colin Watson
easier to bisect any new bugs. In short: my apologies that it's ended up in such a state. However, I think I will have time to at least deal with the RC bugs, and hopefully a number more (including e.g. the btrfs probing bug). I wouldn't complain about help though! (CCs welcom

Re: Essentiality of Bash

2010-06-20 Thread Colin Watson
inst is already a bash script; skipping > script grub-pc.postrm is already a bash script; skipping > script grub-pc.prerm is already a bash script; skipping Check your conclusion - maintainer scripts are not required for booting, only for installing the pac

Bootloaders BoF at DebConf?

2010-06-21 Thread Colin Watson
bootloader and can come armed with specialist knowledge. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: [DRAFT] Policy for Linux kernel, initramfs, boot loader update process

2010-06-28 Thread Colin Watson
begins with 'linux-image-' and > do nothing in this case. [Is this sensible or is it too 'clever'?] Sensible, I think. There's no point running update-grub three times. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Bootloaders BoF at DebConf?

2010-06-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:56:45PM +0200, Joachim Wiedorn wrote: > Colin Watson wrote on 2010-06-21 22:22: > > There've been several bootloader-related threads here of late, and > > grub2, lilo, and syslinux all seem to have fairly active work happening > > on them. (F

Re: Bootloaders BoF at DebConf?

2010-06-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 09:36:54AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:22:35PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > There've been several bootloader-related threads here of late, and > > grub2, lilo, and syslinux all seem to have fairly active work happenin

Re: Bug#505111: will suggest removal from testing

2010-08-07 Thread Colin Watson
ss to fixing the issue. > > I still feel this is an overreaction as only the original reporter has ever > seen the issue in practice. No one else has ever reported being affected > by the issue. The described use case requires an combination of factors > which is quite unlikely to

Bug#594360: ITP: dumpet -- dump information about bootable CDs and other similar formats

2010-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Colin Watson * Package name: dumpet Version : 2.0 Upstream Author : Peter Jones * URL : https://fedorahosted.org/dumpet/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: C Description : dump information about bootable CDs

Bug#601005: ITP: libpipeline -- pipeline manipulation library

2010-10-22 Thread Colin Watson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Colin Watson * Package name: libpipeline Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Colin Watson * URL : http://libpipeline.nongnu.org/ * License : GPLv3+ Programming Lang: C Description : pipeline manipulation library

Re: Looking for a co-maintainer for adduser

2003-10-06 Thread Colin Watson
ose tiny languages such as Lua, but perhaps somebody should write the tools in question in them first, otherwise this is pure vapourware. (Or, then again, perhaps they shouldn't; I'm not a fan of rewriting things that already work.) Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-10-07 Thread Colin Watson
more sense, to only have to D/L the > Source Code once. Would it be POSSIBLE to LOSE the Zippy-style CAPITALIZATION, please? Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Language extensions in programs under /usr/bin

2003-10-08 Thread Colin Watson
/usr/lib/ask or something). > > That'd be /usr/share (lib is for arch-dependant data, see FHS) ... except that the Python policy seems to have bizarre rules about this. I assume this is because .pyc files are placed in the same directory as the corresponding .py files and are archi

Re: Question about libcdda_paranoia

2003-10-08 Thread Colin Watson
in .so links are only needed for build-time linking, and therefore live in development packages. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-dev -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-08 Thread Colin Watson
e/Sources says xaw3d in testing is > version 1.5+E-1, while testing/main/binary-i386/Packages says xaw3d in > testing is version 1.5-25. How come the source and binary packages > have different versions in testing? They don't - I think your mirror is out of date. Both so

Re: Question about libcdda_paranoia

2003-10-08 Thread Colin Watson
n broken, and dlopen()ing the newer library from a program compiled to expect the older library may be unsafe. > Is there a standard for so-naming (which is respected by all/ most > Gnu/Linux distributions)? That depends on the library. Ideally, the upstream maintainer of the library shoul

Re: Accepted ssystem 1.6-14.1 (i386 source)

2003-10-09 Thread Colin Watson
iner: line in a .changes file is *not* the Maintainer: from debian/control; it identifies the uploader. Konstantinos' upload has the correct Maintainer: in the .dsc file. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Removing python-pygresql and libpqpp packages

2003-10-10 Thread Colin Watson
ore builded? > > It doesn't seem to work that way. It does, but only semi-automatically. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#215127: ITP: azureus -- a java bittorrent client

2003-10-11 Thread Colin Watson
t;Java" should have the initial capital letter. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-11 Thread Colin Watson
al world we might check that one of them is Priority: extra, but there's a bit too much other stuff going on for this to be feasible right now. These examples are a bit contrived, but there are certainly real cases in the archive. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CAP_FOWNER

2003-10-12 Thread Colin Watson
ity set. If you're setting the setuid or setgid bit then you have to do it this way round: changing the owner may clear that bit, depending on the kernel version according to chown(2). I think sanity dictates that we assume this capability. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: chroot on debian hosts?

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Watson
oper's manual using fakeroot. It > failed because it could not find a package. Perhaps, this is a bug in > debootstrap. Is that method supposed to work? Use dchroot to access chroots on Debian machines. You will not be able to install packages yourself. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Watson
tandards-version serve to remind the lintian maintainer that he needs to update lintian for any changes in policy. :) Updating lintian is not just a matter of increasing the number. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Watson
e lintian is programmed to check. If the source package N: is correct, then please upgrade lintian to the newest version. (If N: there is no newer lintian version, then please bug N: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to make one.) N: Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: chroot on debian hosts?

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 10:29:27AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 09:37:51AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:20:15PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: > > > I'd like to build against sid on a machine (ia64) I don't own but

Re: Pre-Depends for postgresql

2003-10-16 Thread Colin Watson
kind of defeat the purpose of discussing these sorts of > things? > > As it stands, I don't see a problem with the pre-depends, but your > attitude is... disquieting. To me, it read like a typo for "If nobody objects". -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pre-Depends for postgresql

2003-10-16 Thread Colin Watson
need to add users or groups should use adduser so that the appropriate uid and gid ranges are used as configured by the sysadmin. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pre-Depends for postgresql

2003-10-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 04:27:42PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 03:51:33PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > > Hum, instead of adduser, useradd should be used by the posgresql > > > package.

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-16 Thread Colin Watson
> time). From what Colin Watson mentioned to me earlier today there are > > some other packages that are holding KDE out as well so hopefully they > > are resolved by then. > > Can you list these packages, as candidates for NMUs or shame? Given > some of the changes in test

Re: Pre-Depends for postgresql

2003-10-16 Thread Colin Watson
and it is wrong for a Debian package to try to use anything else other than adduser to create system users. Using adduser means that we, or local sysadmins, only have one thing to change if we need to change how system users work. Use adduser. It's your friend. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-17 Thread Colin Watson
e-consuming" since most binary > uploads are for x86 these days and x86 autobuilder cpu time should not > be very hard to find. Competent human operator time is more valuable and in shorter supply. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-17 Thread Colin Watson
to build their packages at all will improve their testing procedures. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pre-Depends for postgresql

2003-10-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 04:29:37AM -0400, David B Harris wrote: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 02:18:00 +0100 > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Uid 31 is reserved forever (speaking as the base-passwd maintainer), but > > new installations of postgresql should have a

Re: nethack popularity contest - number_pad?

2003-10-18 Thread Colin Watson
option screen, just like any other option. I'm not sure why this one should be special. IMO, leave it at the upstream default; you'll surprise nethack players coming from non-Debian systems less that way. And it's not like nethack doesn't have a host of other quirks. :) Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Other nethack options

2003-10-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 11:11:15AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, 18 Oct 2003, Lukas Geyer wrote: > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It's trivial to reconfigure it in nethack's option screen, just like any > > > other option.

Re: netkit-inetd in sarge

2003-10-19 Thread Colin Watson
ey're significantly cheaper for the attacker than for you, and even then they are often better handled at an upstream router. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: how to ask for packages rebuilding

2003-10-20 Thread Colin Watson
rything. > > As said, I'll monitor the ocaml packages so that your current > mini-freeze will work. I'm also keeping an eye on them from the point of view of testing, so that the relevant packages can be hinted as soon as they're ready. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-20 Thread Colin Watson
ng, they are autobuilt. Only the autobuilt version hits Testing. Aargh, no, this is a dreadful idea. Getting things into testing is slow enough as it is without having to wait 10 days just to find out whether an autobuild problem exists! We want to find this sort of thing out earlier, not later. Cheers

Re: A case study of a new user turned off debian

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
Uh, 2.3.2-8 is well after the introduction of libdb1-compat. Are you sure you don't mean an earlier version? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#219139: ITP: cdcat -- a graphical (QT based) catalog program

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
quot;) == NULL) > return 1; > - sprintf(str,"%s/%s",getenv("HOME"),CONFIGFILE); > + snprintf(str,sizeof(str)-1,"%s/%s",getenv("HOME"),CONFIGFILE); > #endif > >cf = fopen(str,"r"); The return value f

Re: What's the deal with NMUs? [was Re: Are you still there?]

2003-11-05 Thread Colin Watson
ed" the Debian process? To a fairly good first approximation, no. The openness brings more benefits than costs. Small problems can be and have been dealt with. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Trying to understand "updating orbit2 makes 79 packages unintallable ..."

2003-11-07 Thread Colin Watson
eded to make a hint for orbit2 work is to get the current version of nautilus to build on m68k. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: monstrous arse [Re: Bug#219163: ITP: synaptic-touchpad -- Synaptics TouchPad driver for XFree86]

2003-11-08 Thread Colin Watson
been passed around a few times, but I can't > find the original quote or any context to explain it. My sigfile attributes it to a poster called "Yicky Yacky" on Kuro5hin. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Trying to understand "updating orbit2 makes 79 packages unintallable ..."

2003-11-10 Thread Colin Watson
in testing > alone. (You need either ORBit2 2.8 or Linc and ORBit2 2.6 to compile > stuff for ORBit.) It's a hen-and-egg problem. If I were you I'd leave it alone for now and wait until everything else is ready to be updated at once. Unfortunately it's now goi

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-10 Thread Colin Watson
entirely legitimate for people to bring up potential problems with this scheme. I'm disappointed that you feel it necessary to brush them off just to railroad your proposal through. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-10 Thread Colin Watson
cceeds and becomes the > > preferred way of distributing Debian kernels, what would we have? The > > following: > > I haven't even thought of my scheme as "becoming the preferred way of > distributing Debian Linux". So I'll ignore your bogus hipothesis. Why

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 10:20:42PM +, Carlos Sousa wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:29:48 +0000 Colin Watson wrote: > > The lurkers support me in email > > They all think I'm great don't you know. > > You posters just don't understand me >

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 12:21:32PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 02:23:52PM +0000, Colin Watson wrote: > > As a prospective maintainer of an important package, it ill behooves > > you to make fun of legitimate bug reports. > > No, you're confused.

Re: ftpmaster accepts packages that have been rejected a few days ago

2003-11-11 Thread Colin Watson
ection message apparently *explicitly said* that another ftpmaster might have a different opinion. I think this is a feature. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: sarge release

2003-11-12 Thread Colin Watson
x27;t have to worry about Debian right now. If you take the latter approach, the packages in question will have to be either NMUed or removed from sarge. The more people who say "oh, we've got plenty of time so I don't need to fix this bug right now"

Re: Uninstallable packages testing/sarge

2003-11-13 Thread Colin Watson
on broken packages: > kfind: conflicts with old kdebase-libs in testing > etc... (total 21 packages marked as broken in aptitude when selecting > kde) This is definitely known about; a number of bugs have already been filed. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
I don't remember the RC bug count *ever* dropping by much prior to a release; the pattern has been that the bugs are pushed out to packages we don't care about, which then get removed. While not perfect, it gets the job done in finite time, it's pragmatic, and in many ways

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-16 Thread Colin Watson
ast-tracked back in if he were interested, since he's already demonstrated the skills etc. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-16 Thread Colin Watson
t all, that is; but I don't expect the backport to destabilize the rest of your system, which is the most important thing.) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is vrms really still a Virtual Richard M. Stallman?

2003-11-16 Thread Colin Watson
e of for documentation (as opposed to personal statements). Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
etween testing and unstable so it'll doubtless need more attention. * mozilla - almost there but hasn't built on m68k and mipsel, apparently due to various dependency problems. Could benefit from being retried. Those interested in evolution would do well to investigate th

Re: emacs20 obsolete? (Re: How to find all reverse depends of a package?)

2003-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
aintenance scripts are > already trying to remove it)? No. It's only testing that cares about dependencies; the scripts used by ftpmaster to remove packages from unstable don't care. If there were any attempt in progress to remove emacs20 from testing you'd see it

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
? I think you're missing the point: package name changes due to soname changes often cause delays to testing, and therefore it's *beneficial* that there's potentially an easy way to hold them out of unstable at the moment. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian packages of 7.4

2003-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
sarge. Just a thought; I haven't looked at the new packages in detail. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian packages of 7.4

2003-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 02:13:58PM +, Oliver Elphick wrote: > On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 13:46, Colin Watson wrote: > > Do these issues mean that migrating testing from 7.3.4-9 to 7.4-1 is > > going to be a headache for testing, or that packages built against 7.4-1 > > will d

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
o restrictive, given that I insist on a 79-column > limit on code lines. With 8-space indentation, you run out of nesting > levels really fast, much faster than is possible to do non-trivial > coding in. Does that make the kernel trivial? Just wondering. :) -- Colin Watson

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 06:15:41PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:57:41AM +0000, Colin Watson wrote: > > * mozilla - almost there but hasn't built on m68k and mipsel, > > apparently due to various dependency problems. Could benefit from &

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Colin Watson
ing build problems and other problems rather than serializing the two tasks. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: perl 5.8.2-2 & mips buildd

2003-11-19 Thread Colin Watson
, which our mips buildds don't currently have installed. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: perl 5.8.2-2 & mips buildd

2003-11-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 06:03:39PM +0100, Karsten Merker wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:58:16PM +0000, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:05:49AM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > > > i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked "Not-For-Us" on mips buildd. &g

Re: problem with bugs.debian.org

2003-12-08 Thread Colin Watson
nd might have time to look into it before accounts reopen, > but if not, it'll be fixed then. As long as the bugs themselves are > displaying fine (bugreport.cgi / http://bugs.debian.org/nn), no > information is being lost, and the indices can be easily recreated. This has been fixed f

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-08 Thread Colin Watson
nics in the peanut gallery. :) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-08 Thread Colin Watson
ng-security; urgency=high [...] * Support setuid ssh-keysign binary instead of setuid ssh client. [...] -- Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:43:44 -0400 Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-12-08 Thread Colin Watson
enty of bugs that should be fixed, certainly, but not all of them need to be release-critical. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/

2003-12-09 Thread Colin Watson
d it. I've fixed it now. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug reports missing

2003-12-10 Thread Colin Watson
63 > does not exist in the BTS. #219863 is archived, as http://bugs.debian.org/219863 says near the top of the page. You can't make any changes to archived bugs. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug reports missing

2003-12-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:22:42AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 08:30:49AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > I just sendet > > > > > > mailx -s "Merge" [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<

Re: Bug reports missing

2003-12-10 Thread Colin Watson
I wonder why it is missing from > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=tipptrainer&archive=yes > > but this might be a different effect. Hmm, how odd. (Yes, it's a different effect - index.archive was truncated for some reason

Re: Any Progress?

2003-12-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 03:35:53PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote: > I noticed that http://qa.debian.org/developer.php still isn't > updating. See debian-qa. It looks as if this can be re-enabled soon, but the primary author of developer.php currently doesn't have a key in the key

Re: Any Progress?

2003-12-12 Thread Colin Watson
;t appear to be generally broken. I wonder, though, if all five (!) MXs are doing the right thing. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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