Re: Packages depending on libncurses5 but not build-depending on libncurses-dev

2011-10-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:06:20PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > Colin Watson >spectemu Fixed in 0.94a-13, thanks. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

Re: Packages depending on libncurses5 but not build-depending on libncurses-dev

2011-10-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 08:48:20PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2011-10-20 14:05 +0200, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:06:20PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> Colin Watson > >>spectemu > > > > Fixed in 0.94a-13, thanks. > >

Re: info please

2011-11-16 Thread Colin Watson
l 2 ? Packages in level 2 build-depend on packages in level 1 (and so on up the stack), so in general level 1 needs to be built before level 2. (This is mostly only of practical interest to people managing these transitions, though.) -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@d

Re: info please (on transitions and dependency levels)

2011-11-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 01:54:02PM +, Nick Leverton wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:19:40PM +0000, Colin Watson wrote: > > Packages in level 2 build-depend on packages in level 1 (and so on up > > the stack), so in general level 1 needs to be built before level 2. > >

Re: Lintian ERROR saying dpatch is obsolete

2011-11-28 Thread Colin Watson
d! I want to be able to inspect source packages as they're going to be built without running any code from them. That's a major advantage of 3.0 (quilt). -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@

Re: Lintian ERROR saying dpatch is obsolete

2011-11-29 Thread Colin Watson
r and set that in debian/rules according to the target distribution. It's a small rewrite, but not that much, and it can often be less confusing when you're finished. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-re

Re: Bug#652433: ITP: v3c-qt -- v3c/automake wrapper for QT

2011-12-18 Thread Colin Watson
s is one of the ones often used by people new to Debian development). To change a bug title, see: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#retitle -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-22 Thread Colin Watson
surrect this if other people would like to express clear ideas about what the semantics should be. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: GRUB2

2011-12-28 Thread Colin Watson
erly untrue. GRUB 2 is a GNU project and is actively developed upstream independently from Debian, although there have certainly been various Debian developers involved over the years. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

Bug#656234: ITP: six -- Python 2 and 3 compatibility library

2012-01-17 Thread Colin Watson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Colin Watson * Package name: six Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : Benjamin Peterson * URL : http://packages.python.org/six/ * License : Expat Programming Lang: Python Description : Python 2 and 3 compatibility

Re: Proposed mass bug-filing/NMUing: perl 4 libraries

2012-01-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 07:18:25PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > Colin Watson >info2man This had been filed as #652499, but I'd been holding off uploading the fix while I figured out a problem with some horrible elderly code that caused info2man to do nothing useful at all

Re: essential and transitivly-essential

2012-02-01 Thread Colin Watson
ent the special restrictions on "Priority: required" packages in policy. I don't think it currently specifies these accurately, so they're largely encoded in the heads of the small number of people who've had to deal with this. > - Reduce the set of "does not ne

Re: Comments on introducing a new Essential package: base-init?

2012-02-08 Thread Colin Watson
cked and configured while even dpkg has still only been extracted; while that installation is done with --force-depends, I still think it would be worth keeping its dependency tree as trivial as possible. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRI

DEP-8: Discovering autopkgtest-capable packages

2012-04-03 Thread Colin Watson
packages in a Sources file. Perhaps something like "Autopkgtest: yes"? Thanks, -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: GFDL in main

2012-12-10 Thread Colin Watson
s that are part of groff are licensed under GPL v3 or later, even if they also bear other licences. There is a specific clarification of this in groff/debian/copyright. Please check the other packages you listed manually before filing any bug reports. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-04 Thread Colin Watson
you could at least boot the installer with apt-setup/multiarch=i386. I think that apt-setup/multiarch=i386 should be the default on amd64; but I'm less sure that I could convince anyone that that deserves a freeze exception. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian

Re: multilib followup: caution about remnant shared library files

2013-01-11 Thread Colin Watson
x86_64-linux-gnu/bits dpkg hasn't forgotten about the files under that; it just knows about them under another name. This is unrelated to Paul's problem. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@list

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-16 Thread Colin Watson
fields added to them to make a full bootstrap from zero > possible. If the Gentoo USE flags were not too far off and assuming or > tools do the correct thing so far, then: > > - the number of source packages that has to be modified with the new >fields is at maxi

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-16 Thread Colin Watson
hings at the moment (late last week). Now that I know where to find the branches that need to be changed it would be easy for me to add support for profiles as well once they're agreed elsewhere, and I'm motivated to do so. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@deb

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-16 Thread Colin Watson
open-source CPU designs OpenRISC and LatticeMico32 > (LM32, used in the Milkymist SoC). Also potentially x32. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-16 Thread Colin Watson
chitecture. (I haven't run into many of these, since I cross-build from amd64 to armhf and they're fairly different.) Neil, can you think of any packages that meet this stricter criterion? -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBS

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-16 Thread Colin Watson
n some way, although I guess that file list comparison against natively-built packages would catch a majority of the problems. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &qu

Re: how to handle architecture dependent headers in subdirectories

2013-01-17 Thread Colin Watson
me" safe. (Note how /usr/include/bits is only shipped by the multi*lib* packages, e.g. libc6-dev-amd64.) -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscr

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 08:54:26AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Colin Watson wrote: > > This is cleaner than any of the other options I've come up with: it > > doesn't require hardcoding a list of "toolchain packages" that have > >

Bug#699175: ITP: gdb-heap -- gdb extension to debug dynamic memory allocation problems

2013-01-28 Thread Colin Watson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Colin Watson * Package name: gdb-heap Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : David Malcolm * URL : https://fedorahosted.org/gdb-heap/ * License : LGPLv2.1, Python Programming Lang: Python Description : gdb extension to

Re: wheezy update-grub error

2013-01-29 Thread Colin Watson
"true" ] ; then - grub-set-default $1 + if [ -f /usr/lib/grub-legacy/grub-set-default ] ; then + /usr/lib/grub-legacy/grub-set-default $1 + else + grub-set-default $1 + fi else value="$1" newmenu=$(tempfile) I'

Re: Default packages flags

2013-02-02 Thread Colin Watson
;m not aware of a web site that extracts it specifically (and besides it's often conditional on the architecture and suchlike so the best that would be possible would be to just extract debian/rules; really you're best off downloading the source package and looking). -- Colin Watson

Re: upstream advise page about circular dependencies (bootstrapping)

2013-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
i/Upstream_%28software_development%29 -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

2013-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
;s what I do, but my problem is that I have to know final file name, > e. i. take care of section and compression. You don't need to take care of compression. dh_compress is conventionally run after dh_link, and it knows how to fix up symlinks; so, in the above example, this is en

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

2013-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
/www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Man-Page/q4.html This reasoning makes no sense for the Debian system, because /usr/share/man will always be on a filesystem that supports symbolic links. Just use them. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

2013-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
ltiple sections even in the same package (for example, the po4a package ships both po4a(1) and po4a(7)). The current dh_link format seems fine to me for this. If having to maintain it bothers you, you can always encourage upstream to install the proper symlinks in whatever the

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

2013-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
ename). IMO it's rational to patch manual pages to lower-case the section in such cases, and forward that patch upstream so you don't need to continue maintaining it. You'd have to do the same thing if they specified an entirely wrong section number, wh

Re: Package install location for 0700 Directories

2013-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
ps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http:

Re: porting OpenRC on kFreeBSD and Hurd (was: Proposal: let’s have a GR about the init system)

2013-11-09 Thread Colin Watson
o have debhelper adjusted. I already did this for file-rc, so perhaps you want to clone-and-hack my patches for OpenRC: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709481 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709482 -- Colin Watson [

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Colin Watson
m doesn't suffer from this class of problems. On the other hand it's significantly slower, and you may have some amusement getting it to do such things as emulating a machine with sufficient memory and I/O. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.

Re: virtual/alternative B-D (was Re: libtiff5 transition)

2013-12-06 Thread Colin Watson
etter to have the default be in as few places as possible, so that the transition can be done with binNMUs. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe&

Re: Last call for pv-grub-menu.

2013-12-18 Thread Colin Watson
h maybe just a simple shim menu.lst. If we try really hard we might even be able to have compatibility in the other direction as well. Obviously it will take some time to filter through everywhere, but I rather hope that eventually both PV-GRUB1 and pv-grub-menu will be able to die a natural dea

Re: Last call for pv-grub-menu.

2013-12-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 09:32:24AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Colin Watson, le Thu 19 Dec 2013 02:29:58 +, a écrit : > > If we try really hard we might even be able to have compatibility in > > the other direction as well. > > I've not tested, but there is no re

Re: Bug#733045: debhelper: Can debhelper make autotools-dev updating default behaviour?

2013-12-24 Thread Colin Watson
needs and in the ethical sense that it makes it easier for users to change the true source code for the build system), but it does require a bit more knowledge and effort from maintainers. It is true, though, that *most* ports can get by without this, and just need wide

Re: Bug#733045: debhelper: Can debhelper make autotools-dev updating default behaviour?

2013-12-25 Thread Colin Watson
years later, when the change in the autotools has been largely forgotten about, rather than it being fixed in a timely fashion. But this is sort of off-topic for the original report, and I apologise for derailing it ... -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org

Re: Bug#733045: debhelper: Can debhelper make autotools-dev updating default behaviour?

2013-12-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 09:01:29PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 26 décembre 2013 01:04 CET, Colin Watson  : > > It is true that compatibility is sometimes less than ideal, but brushing > > the problem under the carpet just means that somebody gets to discover > > this wh

Re: Bug#733045: debhelper: Can debhelper make autotools-dev updating default behaviour?

2013-12-26 Thread Colin Watson
eam releases when you're trying to get a port done sucks. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: 'tty' output on kFreeBSD, etc. within sbuild

2014-01-03 Thread Colin Watson
ge, which gives you a pty in a way that's known to work well within builds and writes output to a file. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: Bug#274229: System accounts with valid shells

2014-01-07 Thread Colin Watson
hanks, Russ! -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140107155934.ga27...@riva.ucam.org

Re: Bug#274229: System accounts with valid shells

2014-01-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 03:59:34PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > Russ supplied a patch to allow update-passwd to use debconf for > prompting, which I've now merged after some tweaking between us. As of > base-passwd 3.5.30, all these accounts will have their shells changed to >

Re: Bug#274229: System accounts with valid shells

2014-01-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 11:43:09AM +, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 09/01/14 11:23, Colin Watson wrote: > > In short, if you're using "su " for any of the affected users > > (daemon bin sys games man lp mail news uucp proxy www-data backup list > > irc gn

Re: translations.launchpad.net: how to get PO for updating Debian packages?

2014-01-09 Thread Colin Watson
ols/trunk lp-translations-tools -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2

Re: Bug#274229: System accounts with valid shells

2014-01-09 Thread Colin Watson
start-stop-daemon is disabled. This is why I changed man-db to use a tiny perl wrapper instead. perl -e '@pwd = getpwnam("man"); $( = $) = $pwd[3]; $< = $> = $pwd[2]; exec "/usr/bin/mandb", @ARGV' -- "$@" || true -- Colin Watson

Re: Bug#682045: libtool: please mark libtool multi-arch: allowed

2014-01-09 Thread Colin Watson
ross-build against some reasonable subset of packages to see how it performs, especially if anyone can think of an example package that's wedded to /usr/bin/libtool. I think it's clear that this option would have no effect on native builds and doesn't require extensive testing the

Re: Bug#682045: libtool: please mark libtool multi-arch: allowed

2014-01-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:55:06PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 07:20:40PM +0000, Colin Watson wrote: > > This analysis makes sense as far as it goes, but the problem with it is > > that it neglects any consideration of libtool's dependencies. As I >

Re: Apt-get question

2014-01-25 Thread Colin Watson
as to how you might port it to another low-level packaging system. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debia

Re: [RFH] Local wanna-build and buildd setup in unstable

2014-01-26 Thread Colin Watson
nna-build/bin/wanna-build line 310. I sent a simple patch for this last year, which for some reason does not yet appear to have been applied: https://lists.debian.org/debian-wb-team/2013/08/msg1.html -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To U

Re: when will we finally throw away binary uploads (Re: Please upgrade your build environment when you are affected by transition

2014-02-13 Thread Colin Watson
sically, people got tired of portability problems in building shared libraries so they hid them all inside a multi-thousand line shell script where no one can ever find them because everyone who tries goes blind. -- Russ Allbery -- Colin Watson [cjwa

Re: when will we finally throw away binary uploads (Re: Please upgrade your build environment when you are affected by transition

2014-02-13 Thread Colin Watson
ere's at least some magic address you can mail the logs to, but I never remember what it is. (It's all a workaround anyway.) -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Re: Status of build-arch coverage

2014-02-20 Thread Colin Watson
> all packages. Um, that's because the graph stops at the end of 2012. :-) I ran into some change of behaviour in the Lintian lab I was using and haven't had a chance to figure out what's going on there ... -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.

Bug#740186: ITP: python-tblib -- Python traceback fiddling library

2014-02-26 Thread Colin Watson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Colin Watson * Package name: python-tblib Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Ionel Cristian Mărieș * URL : https://github.com/ionelmc/python-tblib * License : BSD-2-clause Programming Lang: Python Description

[cjwat...@debian.org: Accepted grub2 2.02~beta2-7 (source i386)]

2014-03-11 Thread Colin Watson
s reasonably solid, and I wanted to make sure wheezy ships with at least GRUB 2.02 anyway, so I might as well just forge ahead now rather than trying to figure out how to back this out. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] --- Begin Message --- -BEGIN PGP

Re: [cjwat...@debian.org: Accepted grub2 2.02~beta2-7 (source i386)]

2014-03-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:50:46AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > Anyway, while this was unintentional, I don't think it's actually > dreadful. testing has 2.00-22, which is reasonably solid, and I wanted > to make sure wheezy ships with at least GRUB 2.02 anyway, Cyril poi

Re: correct use of su

2014-05-12 Thread Colin Watson
's cron job case, of course, but I still think it's worth mentioning as "any noninteractive scripts" is quite a sweeping statement.) It's a shame that there is, as far as I know, no low-level tool for this in an Essential package. -- Colin Watson

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-15 Thread Colin Watson
eer projects. Fortunately these only block a minority of Haskell packages ... -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lis

Re: FDL with no invariant sections

2014-05-20 Thread Colin Watson
ak normally prevents this. There are a few cases where it hasn't noticed, due to the file name having gone through something else in between; I usually notice when we try to sync it into Ubuntu since Launchpad remembers the name-to-content mapping for longer and so ends up being a bi

Re: Bug#631224: Whether should grub2 write MBR automatic

2011-06-22 Thread Colin Watson
e it to install nowhere, although this does require explicit confirmation. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists

Re: Bug#631224: Whether should grub2 write MBR automatic

2011-06-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 02:26:31PM +0800, YunQiang Su wrote: > But once upgrade Ubuntu, the MBR is taken place, and once then upgrade > Debian, it's back. 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' on the Ubuntu side, then - it's not that comp

Re: Bug#631224: Whether should grub2 write MBR automatic

2011-06-22 Thread Colin Watson
n place and never upgraded them, as you suggest in #631224, then I guarantee you that other things would break; it would be disastrously bad for users. We therefore try to upgrade installed versions of GRUB to match the current installed package. -- Colin Watson

Re: Bug#631224: Whether should grub2 write MBR automatic

2011-06-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 05:07:52AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 11:33 +0800, YunQiang Su wrote: > > When update to grub-pc 1.99-8, it write my MBR, then I report a bug. > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631224 > > > &g

Re: The archive now supports xz compression

2011-08-11 Thread Colin Watson
... > I guess that a first step is to have an xz udeb... No. busybox already has an unxz applet, so if we choose to do this then we should enable that applet in busybox-udeb, not add a separate udeb. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- T

Re: The archive now supports xz compression

2011-08-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 02:50:32PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Colin Watson wrote: > > Can you quantify that? I don't have hard numbers for the non-Debian > > systems where people report running debootstrap; perhaps you do ... > > Nope, sorry.

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Colin Watson
is what we really want to reach, and that binaries uploaded to the real Debian archive still need to have all those build-dependencies in place. I think Wookey indicated that there was at least one case where more than one stage is required, in which case Build-Recommends does not really seem to sol

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-08-13 Thread Colin Watson
on the packaging provided by upstream? -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Re: Introduction of a "lock" group

2011-08-15 Thread Colin Watson
is the > existence of badly broken programs³, which make stupid assumptions > about lockfiles. What about programs that need to write lock files which are already setgid something else? I don't have an example off the top of my head, but it would surprise me if there were none of these. -

Re: Introduction of a "lock" group

2011-08-16 Thread Colin Watson
ion (mkdir -p, > chown, chmod), I'd like to point out that you may as well just use > install -d, and do it all in one step. Provided your init script guaranteeably runs after /usr is mounted, yes. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To

Re: dynamic Text in package descriptions

2011-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
gnificantly more bandwidth-efficient to download Packages files for multiple architectures. Obviously this only works correctly if descriptions are identical across architectures (which is, fortunately, mostly true). -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] --

Re: Bug#638554: ITP: news -- GTK-based highly configurable RSS Ticker

2011-08-20 Thread Colin Watson
t calling it 'newsrssticker' or 'news-rss-ticker' instead? -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Re: /usr/share/doc/ files and gzip/xz/no compression

2011-08-21 Thread Colin Watson
n't recommend it for global use in Debian. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://

Re: Bug#638554: ITP: news -- GTK-based highly configurable RSS Ticker

2011-08-21 Thread Colin Watson
go as far as commercial software for that; inews is the traditional name for the program NNTP clients use to inject articles into the netnews (Usenet) system. Nowadays it's a virtual package provided by inn2-inews, but i-news is still uncomfortably close to that. -- Colin Watson

Re: /usr/share/doc/ files and gzip/xz/no compression

2011-08-22 Thread Colin Watson
out xz not being worth it for most manual pages anyway. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: /usr/share/doc/ files and gzip/xz/no compression

2011-08-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 03:49:04PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Colin Watson [Mon, Aug 22 2011, 09:27:25AM]: > > I don't want to add more linkage, especially in light of Adam's point > > about xz not being worth it for most manual pages anyway. >

Re: ifupdown package interfaces include function

2011-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
ow have 0.7~alpha5+really0.6.15 in unstable, but for the purposes of working out what bugs may be expected to be fixed, you should treat it as if it were simply 0.6.15. If you want to try out fixes from 0.7~alpha4, you should install the ifupdown package from experimental instead. -- Colin Watson

Re: Re: ifupdown package interfaces include function

2011-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
mbering scheme permanently changes, not really for when you just need to temporarily go backwards for a short while. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Mistake in postrm preventing functioning of newer package (stable/testing/unstable)

2011-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
de compatibility :-) ), so I at least would have no grounds for doing so if you get it right ... -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: buildd machines vs. resource-hungry packages (ITK)

2011-09-17 Thread Colin Watson
ckage will be a win because you will sometimes be able to avoid the build time for the language bindings entirely. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe&qu

Re: BTW question: how expensive is archive/unarchive

2011-09-28 Thread Colin Watson
the relative priorities of these, of course ...) -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: multi-arch and non-multi-arch gobject introspection in Debian and derivatives

2014-11-26 Thread Colin Watson
thers would consider, as > well? Certainly by the time jessie is out this should be a rapidly diminishing concern; and adding those symlinks stands a good chance of breaking the very use cases that multiarch gir1.2-* was trying to fix, because you'd no longer be able to coinsta

Re: multi-arch and non-multi-arch gobject introspection in Debian and derivatives

2014-11-26 Thread Colin Watson
bian/rules. Please don't - this would be undesirable for Ubuntu and would break the very multiarch scenarios we want to work. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: dpkg packaging problems

2015-01-02 Thread Colin Watson
s gcc sets that flag. > Is it a bug in gcc, or are there platforms where +x is required ? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/40587/why-are-shared-libraries-executable reports it as being necessary on HP-UX. It's indeed not needed on Linux except for the odd

Re: jessie for x32

2015-02-22 Thread Colin Watson
omplex and basically broken; the simplest procedure I've found involves going via 7.8 (yes, really). But I bootstrapped ghc successfully that way on arm64 and ppc64el, and I can probably remember enough of how I did it to put it together for x32 as well. I'll give it a shot and let you

Re: jessie for x32

2015-02-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:59:17PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 05:00:30PM +0000, Colin Watson wrote: > > the simplest procedure I've found involves going via 7.8 (yes, really). > > But I bootstrapped ghc successfully that way on arm64 and ppc64el, an

Re: setlocale doesn't change the language. Why?

2015-03-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 01:27:21PM +, Joerg Desch wrote: > printf("Switch to 'en'\n"); > setlocale(LC_MESSAGES,"en_EN.UTF8"); There is no such locale. Perhaps you meant en_GB.UTF-8 or en_US.UTF-8. -- Colin Watson

Re: New system group for Xastir AX.25 users

2015-04-01 Thread Colin Watson
nd checking with the base-passwd maintainer that it is unique and that they do not wish you to use a statically allocated id instead")? -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Bug#790685: ITP: python-conditional -- conditionally enter a context manager

2015-07-01 Thread Colin Watson
ontextlib with contextlib.ExitStack() as stack: if condition: stack.enter_context(...) ... The important feature of any of these approaches is to avoid duplicating the body of the "with" statement. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -

Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-08-04 Thread Colin Watson
you say you're better off just not touching quilt in a git-dpm tree. Having .pc there would probably confuse people into trying to do so ... -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Re: Bug#765632: ForwardX11Trusted set to yes over a decade ago, for release reasons?

2015-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
that double-clicking in your terminal won't make it explode in your face. debian-devel, debian-x, do you think that it's at all realistic to expect clients to be fixed to handle such failures rather more gracefully? -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]

Re: Bug#765632: ForwardX11Trusted set to yes over a decade ago, for release reasons?

2015-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:51:36PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 20:59 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Run xterm and try to select something, bam, your xterm crashes with > > BadAccess. > > Which means that people would typically note quite qui

Re: Use case for -dbg package

2018-10-31 Thread Colin Watson
is sufficiently different from userspace, and indeed platform-specific, that the normal *-dbgsym process won't work. I don't think specific exceptions like this need to be called out in the developers' reference, as long as it remains clear that exceptions for unusual cases are allo

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-09 Thread Colin Watson
ce doesn't make it much less visible, > and folk can still open MRs... This seems like a little bit of an overreaction to somebody removing a single redundant line from a control file, though. Is moving it really worth the added friction? -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 05:41:53PM +, Matthew Vernon wrote: > Ian Jackson writes: > > Matthew Vernon writes ("Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such"): > >> Colin Watson writes: > >> > This seems like a little bit of an overreaction to somebody

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-09 Thread Colin Watson
g (this has been my invariable habit for years) * oh, push failed. "git pull --rebase" and resolve conflicts * check new commits * build source package again, test, push, upload -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-11 Thread Colin Watson
ts to do something different when uploading the package then they can always adjust it themselves. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]

Re: julia_1.0.0-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-21 Thread Colin Watson
e load for maintainers keeping track of everything though. [1] Citation: I implemented it and that's what I was thinking :-) -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]

Re: Would be possible to have a ".treeinfo" file added to the installers' page?

2018-12-07 Thread Colin Watson
The SHA256SUMS file is expected to be valid input to "sha256sum -c", so any extra metadata would have to live somewhere else. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]

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