Hi,
some time ago, I created a DocBook XML version of the Debian
Developers Reference. In the process of changing the source
format, I also changed the translations (fr and ja) to be based
on po4a. The thing is in our SVN:
svn://svn.debian.org/svn/ddp/developers-reference
There are some potential
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:42:08PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
Or do you mean the upload process of the HTML files to
www.debian.org/doc/ ?
Are we still doing that? I think they are generated on www-master locally.
AFAIK, I don't have access
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:51:41PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Done! I also setup a SVN commit notification to the PTS much like we had
for the CVS repository.
I also added a DO-NOT-COMMIT-HERE.txt file to the old CVS repository.
Many thanks! If nobody objects, I will do an upload to
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:27:00PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
w3m seems to be best choice and I use it for my updated Debian Reference
in XML. I do not usually -cols and use its default. Any special reason
behind narrow 65?
IMHO, it's better readable, but YMMV.
How do you create the HTML? I
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:06:32AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On my machine, the japanese version failed to build. You may want to try
to build the package in pbuilder first and look for missing build
dependencies.
There were typos in the Japanese po files that rendered the XML
invalid. And
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 03:18:34AM -0600, DDP CVS wrote:
CVSROOT: /cvs/debian-doc
Module name: ddp
Changes by: amachu 08/03/18 03:18:34
Modified files:
manuals.sgml/repository-howto: repository-howto.ta.xml
Log message:
spelling mistskes corrected
Isn't the CVS now
You should have all permissions now.
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 03:40:17PM +0100, Joost van Baal wrote:
I believe the translations which have seen some work recently should get
installed by the debian-faq package; I'll fix that. A call for
translation updates would be useful too, btw.
Joost, many thanks for working on the FAQ!
I
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 09:18:50PM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 09:37:23AM +, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
1. How about changing the translation to a translation tool on
the way? I suggest po4a, but others could be used as well. With
such a tool you always know which
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 07:48:22PM +0200, Joost van Baal wrote:
Thanks a lot for volunteering! However, I'd first like to focus on
getting a nice FAQ shipped with Debian lenny. And, as Jens said, it's
easier to convert to other formats/translation interfaces once the
translations are
I'ld prefer not to get the SVN commit mails on list. Opinions?
(Or: Is there an easy way to filter them?) Other packages have a
separate commit mailing list on alioth. How about that?
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On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:22:13PM +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote:
Great. I'll work with Martin and see how we go. I see he already has
directories for the existing languages in dbk-po4a-utf8: all I need is
the POT file, to get started.
The pot files are now under po4a.
An empty vi directory
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 08:03:12PM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
Really? It's not below svn.debian.org/svn/ddp/manuals/trunk/debian-faq.
Sorry, I removed the quote line from Joost about the location:
manuals/branches/debian-faq/dbk-po4a-utf8/.
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On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 04:56:41PM +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote:
On 23/05/2008, at 12:11 AM, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
I'm not very optimistic about having the new DocBook/UTF-8/po4a
FAQ ready for lenny. The po conversion of existing translations
(diverging a lot from the English version
Hi,
under
svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/ddp/manuals/branches/debian-faq/dbk-po4a-utf8
is a Debian FAQ, converted to DocBook XML + PO4A + UTF-8. I
would like to invite everyone to try out/review this branch.
Notes:
- de, fr, it, and zh_CN are converted to PO, because we actually
build those
-
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:04:54AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
We make document package based on sid.
We make document web presentation based on stable+bpo.
What we need is chrooted sid system which build documentation. (Just
like autobuilder for porting) Document build process can run under
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 03:02:45PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2008, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
+/replaceable replaceable[architecture list]/replaceable --
^^
problem here
Package: developers-reference
Version: 3.3.9
Severity: normal
Tags: patch
The developers-reference and many other Debian documents are now
in DocBook XML format.
Index: tools.dbk
===
--- tools.dbk (revisión: 5227)
+++ tools.dbk
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:41:25PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Do you agree that we should recommend
usage of docbook for new documents in general
Yes.
and that debiandoc-sgml,
while still maintained, should be considered deprecated?
If the debiandoc-sgml maintainers don't feel strongly
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 08:11:43AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
I added a publish rule for developers-refernce now, but the build fails on
www-master.
If anyone has the time to look into this and to provide whatever backport is
needed to get it to work, it would be great (on sid it compiles
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 04:33:06PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Well, if nobody tries, then we'll never know for sure. :)
I tried that, of course, and it worked on my machine. I didn't
try on www-master, however.
If you want to change this, feel free to go ahead but in the mean time I'm
just
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:09:41PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
We extract files from documentation packages - in places where it is
necessary. If you want we (webmaster, debwww) can make it so for developer's
reference, and then re-link the main indices to that location (leaving the
SVN-build
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:52:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 07:54:06PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
So far, nobody spoke up against it. How can I help to change the
process?
Well, the difference between me pasting the path you tell me and doing
dpkg-deb -c
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:17:33PM +, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
do you plan to have more than the debian-refcard package generated by
this source? If yes its ok to keep the name like it is (refcard for
source), if not it would be very much appreciated if you could rename
the source to match the
Hi,
thanks for the encouring reactions! Let me answer the questions:
- how to submit: People with SVN write access submit in SVN,
others can send me a patch or, if you don't know diff/patch,
the complete po file via mail. Please inform me about the SVN
revision number your work is based
Many thanks for your corrections and suggestions. I will
probably apply almost all of them.
On 2008-07-15 11:33, Justin B Rye wrote:
- glossentry id=boot-expert
...
- glossentry id=boot-26
...
These boot options are distinctly Oldstablish; Lenny doesn't support
Linux 2.4, and its
On 2008-07-14 11:20, Jens Seidel wrote:
since I noticed now (after checking CVS log) that Martin Borgert did the
last translation updates I hesitate to commit a large proofread of the
file.
Many thanks! It's all in SVN now (plus more changes).
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Hi,
an update regarding the Debian reference card:
Many thanks to Jens Seidel and Martin Zobel-Helas (de), Gunnar
Wolf (es), SZERVÁC Attila (hu), Hans F. Nordhaug (nb), Peter
Mann (sk), Martin Bagge (sv), Clythie Siddall (vi) for their
translations! (Did I forget someone?)
Work is needed for
On 2008-07-29 16:39, Eder L. Marques wrote:
Before to send to l10n-portuguese for review, how can I check if the
translation fit (or might not) on one sheet?
$ make refcard-pt_BR-a4.pdf
produces the card. Because many outdated entries have been
removed, I don't fear, it will not fit, btw.
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On 2008-07-30 16:45, Eder L. Marques wrote:
In fact, don't fit. I couldn't build the English version with make
refcard-en-a4.pdf (seg fault) and the version available in
Which version of xmlroff do you have in use?
Attached you can find the pt_BR.po.
Thanks for the translations. It's checked
On 2008-08-08 15:52, Neil Williams wrote:
Package: release-notes
Severity: wishlist
wontfix :~)
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Because it's xmlroff that is segfaulting, I'm reassigning the
bug (hope, that's OK). xmlroff should not segfault - less on
valid input.
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On 2008-08-11 20:35, Simon Brandmair wrote:
Now I would
like to request update privileges, so I can update the German version of the
s-d-m.
Please go on the Debian Documentation Project page at alioth and
click on request to join. One of the admins will happily click
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On 2008-08-24 23:54, Steve Langasek wrote:
Translations being copyrightable works in their own right, their authors
should be asked to ratify the GPLv2 license to give us the best chance of
reusing material; or is there another reason you mention here that he's a
translator?
Of course, it's
On 2008-08-25 23:36, Josip Rodin wrote:
Why do I have to be on top of the list of copyright mischief?! ;)
Your name is the first in the author list :~)
Obviously the implicit copyright all rights reserved would apply by default,
but given that all contributions were explicitly published by
On 2008-08-27 00:09, Osamu Aoki wrote:
So if Martin
decides to go with BSD-3 claise, that should be fine too. I am
thanksful he chose simple GPL2 which is least problematic.
Minor correction: GPL2 was discussed long before I joined the
release notes effort. I suggested GPL2+ to be
On 2008-09-02 18:39, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
How about:
...
Martin, Gordon, are we allowed to use your suggestion under the
terms of the GNU General Public License, version 2? (The release
notes do not yet have any kind of license and we are just now
fixing this bug, so we have to make sure all
On 2008-09-03 09:27, Franklin PIAT wrote:
Regarding the wiki page NewInLenny[1] and the possibility to reuse it's
content in the Release Notes, I'm wondering what's the actual license
that apply to the R.N ?
We are currently asking all contributors to agree to GPL2
(unfortunately without the
On 2008-09-03 16:25, Rob Bradford wrote:
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 17:05 +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
Hi,
it seems, that you have contributed to the release notes[1] of
Debian GNU/Linux[2]. Unfortunately, this document had never a
proper license[3], which makes it difficult for us
On 2008-09-04 09:34, Wojciech Zaręba wrote:
W. Martin Borgert pisze:
Hi,
it seems, that you have contributed to the release notes[1] of
Debian GNU/Linux[2].
That's right.
Unfortunately, this document had never a
proper license[3], which makes it difficult for us, to work
further
On 2008-09-22 08:13, Joost van Baal wrote:
Since june, there has been some work done on the old debian-faq
branch. Is the dbk-po4a-utf8 branch ready for translators now, or is
some manual merging needed first?
The latter. If I'm not totally wrong, we need to update
everything from 2008-05-19
Hi,
thanks to all the translators who already have updated the po
files. Work is still needed urgently for the following
translations:
ca, cs, da, fr, gl, he, nl, pt_PT, tr, uk
For tr I have a translator, but maybe they need help.
Translations into other languages are welcome, too! Esp. I
On 2008-09-23 18:20, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
Which translations are complete, i.e. do *not* need to rush out for the
pot file to start?
Good point. Here are the current statistics:
ar 112 ok.
bg 112 ok.
ca 41 ok, 69 fuzzy, 2 todo.
cs 112 ok.
da 9 ok, 101 fuzzy, 2 todo.
On 2008-09-24 14:14, Joost van Baal wrote:
Yes, it's OK, but I believe it's better to wait untill the manual
merging has been done. See W. Martin Borgert's Mon, 22 Sep 2008
message.
You didn't answer (or I did not get the answer), whether the
small change in software.sgml was the only
On 2008-09-24 15:18, Joost van Baal wrote:
That'd be great!
Done. I took the liberty of re-phrasing: ..., qmail nor ezmlm is
shipped... into: ..., neither qmail nor ezmlm are shipped...
Feel free to correct my pseudo-English in SVN :~)
(Btw: I would like to make use of the DocBook elements
On 2008-09-26 08:01, Hideki Yamane wrote:
Most of PDF files are not able to view without poppler-data.
For example, http://www.sony.jp/ServiceArea/impdf/pdf/2159504011.pdf
Could you see above PDF file well?
Only with poppler-data installed :~(
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didn't show up. So I reply...
On 2008-09-26 09:45, Charles Brockman wrote:
I allow that my contribution to the Debian GNU/Linux release notes can be
distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License, version 2.
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On 2008-10-04 17:43, Luk Claes wrote:
Can you make sure that the license is mentioned in the Release Notes, so
we can finally close this bug?
This is already in the lenny branch I created during DebConf:
svn://svn.debian.org/svn/ddp/manuals/branches/release-notes/lenny
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On 2008-10-04 18:50, Luk Claes wrote:
Is this still something that could happen, so is this still a bug?
Sorry for not replying soonish: I had to look twice to see the
problem. The .po file looks correct, but it is not uptodate.
Somebody obviously forgot to run po4a-updatepo after changing
the
tags 497249 +pending
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This is now in SVN rev. 5400.
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This is now in SVN rev. 5402.
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This is now in SVN rev. 5405.
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The one-liner by Moritz is now in SVN rev. 5403.
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This is now in SVN rev. 5401.
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On 2008-10-05 15:02, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
I've seen several reports that aptitude from etch is unable to dist-upgrade
to Lenny, it loops searching for a solution… so yes I believe that
recommending to upgrade aptitude first is a good idea.
Can't we recommend use of apt-get? It seems to work.
tags 437266 +pending
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New text is in rev. 5407.
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Patrick, many thanks for your report.
On 2008-10-09 11:37, Patrick Josef Strasser wrote:
the
link to the English HTML-version of the docs was
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/index.en.html
which did not exist. Removing the .en yielded the searched manual.
I believe
On 2008-10-09 22:58, Franklin PIAT wrote:
BTW, the Release-Notes file layout seems to have changed. For instance
Etch's ch-upgrading.en.html#s-package-status becomes
upgrading.html#package-status in Lenny.
Was it intended ? (I'm asking before implementing a matching table).
No. The en is
tags 491180 +pending
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It's now in SVN, rev. 5411.
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On 2008-10-11 00:27, Giovanni Rapagnani wrote:
Boot from your favorite LiveCD distribution (Knoppix, Kaella, ...).
How about Debian Live? (Or Sidux, Ubuntu, Kanotix, ...).
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On 2008-10-13 11:03, Luca Capello wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:52:03 +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
tags 500441 +patch
tags 500441 +pending
thanks
This is now in SVN rev. 5413.
FYI, you simply misscopied the bug number in the To: field :-D
Indeed. OK: Braille support is now
On 2008-10-16 21:15, Giovanni Rapagnani wrote:
Where is the better place to send the updated procedure ? I don't know
wheter it is a good think to post this very long procedure to the BTS
every time an update occurs.
I will put the current text into the release notes subversion
archive in
tags 475958 +patch
tags 475958 +pending
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On 2008-10-17 00:38, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
Btw. if you not have done this: Please state explicitly that
you allow the distribution of your text under the terms of the
GNU General Public License version 2. Or, if you prefer, say
under any DFSG
Hi, the debian-refcard (pure documentation package) contains new
and updated translations. It is 13 days in unstable now. Please
let it go into Lenny. Thanks!
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On 2008-10-19 10:26, Stefano Canepa wrote:
I'm writing to the list as suggested in
http://www.debian.org/doc/cvs#obtaining to have svn commit access for
the ddp to update the Italian translation of securing Debian howto and
keep it updated.
Please click on [Request to join] in alioth and I
Hi,
sooner or later we will release Debian 5.0. When time comes.
The release notes are far from being ready, but we need to start
translations now. If you like to help:
1. Please reply to this e-mail (debian-doc list) stating your
interest. I will coordinate translations to prevent double
On 2008-10-22 12:07, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:26:04AM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
It looks like the current PO file is far way from beeing optimal.
Sentences in msgid's are incomplete, e.g.
msgid or a serial port. If your braille display is connected to a
This
On 2008-10-22 12:19, Noritada Kobayashi wrote:
I'd love to translate, to review, and to ask other Japanese
translators and reviewers to work on Japanese translation as in the
etch releasenotes era.
Many thanks! Two questions: Do you prefer PO or full-text? Do
you prefer UTF-8 or another
On 2008-10-22 13:10, Jens Seidel wrote:
Yep, I had also a working solution and got a conflict once you committed
your patch: Just adding $(PO4AOPTIONS)
PO4AOPTIONS=-o inline=acronym -o inline=indextermprimary
If you prefer this solution, go ahead.
There is nevertheless also a problem with
On 2008-10-22 18:45, Miroslav Kure wrote:
I will do the Czech translation as always.
Fine, many thanks!
I'd like to have full-text translation for cs.
OK, I removed the po files and added copies of the English
DocBook files in cs/. Now you need to diff the English and Czech
version once in a
On 2008-10-23 02:23, Noritada Kobayashi wrote:
I prefer PO since I find it hard to merge changes in the original text
into translated one when I select the full-text translation. OTOH,
however, the DocBook module of Po4a in the lenny version has some
bugs, and at least the handling of an
On 2008-10-26 08:46, vince wrote:
I allow that my contribution to the Debian GNU/Linux release
notes can be distributed under the terms of the GNU General
Public License, version 2.
Just for the record: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is Vincenzo Campanella,
Italian translation. Grazie!
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On 2008-10-26 19:33, Miguel Gea Milvaques wrote:
I'll continue working with catalan translation. And I'll prefer working
with xml format.
OK, in rev. 5456 you have the DocBook source files in the ca/
folder. Good luck :~)
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On 2008-10-29 00:15, Andrei Popescu wrote:
Could I be given commit access to the repo? I just
submitted a request via alioth (login: amp-guest)
Done.
I'd prefer to commit my changes as it might help other translators. I
work with git-svn locally, but I'm keeping my history clean.
Question
On 2008-10-29 03:02, Andrei Popescu wrote:
Forgot to mention, what should I do in case I find typos or similar in
the English version?
in case is an euphemism — you will surely find both typos and
content errors! Please file a bug against pseudo-package
release-notes. This way it gets the
The Danish wind industry is the worlds largest. It's capitals mermaid
is the worlds most beautiful (when not vandalised). The country
features the Wests oldest monarchy. It's cartoonists are the worlds
most famous. Denmark was the first nation to introduce civil marriage
for gay and lesbian
tags 504225 +patch
tags 504225 +pending
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On 2008-11-01 22:29, Giovanni Rapagnani wrote:
For what I have experimented, it omits to say to install the package
docbook-xsl-doc-html, at least necessary for compiling the html version.
Many thanks for the patch! The dependency on
On 2008-11-03 20:02, vince wrote:
Sorry to bother you... is it possible that the release notes in Italian
are still these of October 22nd, or am I doing something wrong? I daily
run svn update in the directory where the files have been dowloaded,
see other updates, but no more updates in
On 2008-11-04 19:52, Kaare Olsen wrote:
Here's an additional update to the Debian GNU/Linux reference card, after
Anders Wegge Keller asked me to proof-read his changes. I made several more
corrections to bad grammar and spelling, and unified some wording.
Hi Kåre, it's now in SVN, rev.
Quoting Giovanni Rapagnani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
the release-notes writing needs a decision about this question.
This is what somme DD's think about it:
...
I more or less never used aptitude in my life and don't remember
severe problems with it. Given that apt-get now supports the most
On 2008-11-06 23:11, Giovanni Rapagnani wrote:
Martin, I think this should be added in section 5.3 of the release-notes,
the whole text becoming then:
...
OK, it's in rev. 5490 now.
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tags 503990 +patch
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The text is still in issues.dbk, from the last release notes.
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Hi LI Daobing,
thanks for the translation. Could you please check against the
latest SVN revision? I have the impression, that at least
whats-new.po and installing.po are not current. E.g. the headers
change from Simplified Chinese translation of Lenny release
notes to the nonsense string SOME
Quoting Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Please commit these changes to SVN. Thanks.
Will do today or tomorrow.
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Hi,
there are some bugs open against the release notes to which
nobody wrote a patch so far. This is your opportunity to help
Debian and become famous!
Please: If you think, you have a good understanding of one or
more of the following issues and can write some sentences in
English about the
tags 497252 +patch
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The text is now in rev. 5502.
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tags 489132 +pending
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Thanks, Giovanni. Your text is now in rev. 5505.
I took the liberty to write:
programlisting# apt-get install apt/programlisting
or
programlisting# aptitude install aptitude/programlisting
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Many thanks, Giovanni. Your text is now in rev. 5503.
Is the security warning valid for iceowl, too?
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Thanks, Moritz. Your text is now in rev. 5506.
(To me it's not clear, which Debian packages are affected, but
I'm not living in the LDAP world.)
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On 2008-11-12 23:12, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* W. Martin Borgert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-12 22:45]:
The text is now in rev. 5502.
Only the second part. Can you add the first part too? (my initial
mail in #497252)
Oops, thanks for checking. It's now in 5507.
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tags 497445 +pending
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Thanks, Giovanni. Your text is now in rev. 5509.
If I understand correctly, only users who have previously used
aptitude are affected, right?
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On 2008-11-13 08:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
#498273 seems relevant too.
Putting an HTML rendered version of the release notes as a draft
on the web is a good idea, indeed - also for the translators.
Anybody from the www.debian.org/net people listening?
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On 2008-11-13 09:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
please find a typo patch below (should be 'quite', but lets' avoid
the issue entirely)
Thanks. Applied in 5510.
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Thomas, Vincent, could you try to find out which patch is better
content-wise? Two patches per minute is too much for me :~) Don't
worry about the DocBook side of things, I will care about this.
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On 2008-11-13 21:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One question I haven't seen addressed in this thread (perhaps I haven't
looked hard enough) is what impact the use of apt instead of aptitude
has on systems that are currently using aptitude. Will upgrading with
apt mean that aptitude will no
On 2008-11-12 21:34, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
The though that recommended Debian way is to use aptitude.
Not that I'm aware of.
http://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting/Discussion
The information is correct: aptitude was recommended for the
upgrade from sarge to etch, because apt had some
On 2008-11-13 21:09, Simon Paillard wrote:
I do (to increase chances, CCing debian-www is better :-)
:~)
Some remarks :
- that can be done easily and hosted on http://ddp.alioth.debian.org/
(easily feasible by anyone in the ddp alioth group), so that we make
available the alst SVN
tags 498905 +patch
tags 498905 +pending
thanks
On 2008-11-13 19:37, Tobias Scherer wrote:
I changed it to might be disconnected and created a new patch.
Applied in rev. 5519. Many thanks!
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