Re: RFC: Support for zstd in .deb packages?

2018-04-27 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 01:45:07PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > (ZSTD) > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 07:02:12AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > Recently Julian mentioned it again on IRC, and we each started > > implementing support in dpkg and apt respectively, to allow easier > > evaluation. I sto

Re: RFC: Support for zstd in .deb packages?

2018-04-27 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 02:01:44PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 01:45:07PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Don't. For .debs, that is. > > Scratch that. > > apt Depends: libapt-pkg5.0 Depends: libzstd1 > > While apt is "merely" priority:required rather than fully essenti

Re: RFC: Support for zstd in .deb packages?

2018-04-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Guillem Jover writes ("RFC: Support for zstd in .deb packages?"): > * Eternity contract: This would add yet another format that would need > to be supported pretty much forever, to be able to at least unpack > .deb's that might be available in the wild. This also increases the > (Build-)Essen

Re: RFC: Support for zstd in .deb packages?

2018-04-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 01:45:07PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > Don't. For .debs, that is. Scratch that. apt Depends: libapt-pkg5.0 Depends: libzstd1 While apt is "merely" priority:required rather than fully essential, a Debian system without apt is so deeply embedded it already requires speci

Re: RFC: Support for zstd in .deb packages?

2018-04-27 Thread Adam Borowski
(ZSTD) On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 07:02:12AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > Recently Julian mentioned it again on IRC, and we each started > implementing support in dpkg and apt respectively, to allow easier > evaluation. I stopped when I realized the code was getting too messy, > but after few weeks

Re: RFC: Support for zstd in .deb packages?

2018-04-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 07:02:12AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > (And BTW I do not consider the current support in Ubuntu a deciding > factor in any way, while it could perhaps fragment the .deb ecosystem, > that's something for them to deal with IMO; should really start adding > the vendor to the

Re: RFC: Support for zstd in .deb packages?

2018-04-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, On Fri, 27 Apr 2018, Guillem Jover wrote: > But in any case, I'm still open to data and opinions given that this > is in the end a matter of trade-offs, so → request for comments. :) I believe that the "zstd" compression format is providing an interesting trade-off compared to other compre

Re: RFC: Support for zstd in .deb packages?

2018-04-27 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Guillem. I have no real opinion on this. Guillem Jover - 27.04.18, 07:02: […] > In 2016 Paul Wise mentioned the Zstandard compressor on IRC [Z], > and I briefly checked it out as a potential candidate for dpkg > (while also mentioning it to Julian Andres Klode who was considering > adding lz4