Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-10-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:10:51AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > Le Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 09:14:09AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > Le Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:41:59AM -0700, Jonathan Nieder a écrit : > > > > > > If I end up with time to work on it, wha

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-08-15 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 09:14:09AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > Le Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:41:59AM -0700, Jonathan Nieder a écrit : > > > > If I end up with time to work on it, what I would probably do is to > > split the patch into smaller changes that can be consi

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-08-03 Thread Charles Plessy
do not understand why there is so much reluctance in enhancing our documentation. Have a nice Sunday, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan >From 5d3279e10152d6ecb8b2b4bf226f7e7a380228e1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Charles Plessy Date: Sun,

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-08-03 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 08:00:55AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > does the current patch (attached) address your concerns ? If yes, would > you second it ? Hi all, I would like to make one more call for feedback. Needless to say, I am annoyed that despite we had mutiple pe

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 03:58:04PM +0200, Julien Cristau a écrit : > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:27:19 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > About the problem of triggers being called with Depends not satisfied, > >

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-22 Thread Charles Plessy
e > (similar to what Pre-Depends ensures for preinst > maintainer scripts). > I maintain my second provided that you fix the above. Great, and thanks for your suggestion, which I will apply. More seconds or objections from others ? What are the other Policy editors thinking about t

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Raphaël confirms that he still seconds the patch, I would much appreciate if I could either have support or actionable objection from others (preferably in the form of "unless X is done, the patch should not be applied", rather than "it would be good to do Y"). Have a nice

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Thanks again Raphaël for your prompt feedback. Le Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:00:44AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > - "postinst configure" should do at least everything needed by > >"postinst t

Small patch to the dpkg(1) manpages, to mention triggers.

2013-07-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Hello everybody, here is a tiny patch to dpkg(1), to add the "triggers" files to the list of files found in binary packages. Please let me know if you prefer receiving it through the BTS. Cheers, -- Charles From: Charles Plessy Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:39:18 +0900 Subject: [P

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-17 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 08:55:20AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > 2) The section "Details - triggered package" mentions that "packages in > ‘config-failed’ or worse are never considered to have lists of pending > triggers". (Where config-fail

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-17 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 08:55:20AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > regarding “noawait” triggers, the patch already contains the following, which > is new and improved compared to the existing documentation. > > The *-noawait directives should be used unless the >

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-17 Thread Charles Plessy
ed to clear the list of pending triggers when monodoc-browser became unpacked when it was upgraded. Is that correct ? If yes, then I propose to go ahead and apply an improved patch to the policy that mentions the restrictions and requirements on "postinst triggers", because it represents a

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 05:09:08PM +0200, Julien Cristau a écrit : > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:26:01 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=87;filename=policy-triggers.diff;att=1;bug=582109 > > > That patch h

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-14 Thread Charles Plessy
tag 582109 patch thanks Le Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 11:26:01AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > now that Wheezy is released, I hope that everybody has more time to review the > patch to integrate triggers in the Policy and confirm Raphaël's seconding or > propose extra correction

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-03 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:09:17AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > On Sun, 12 May 2013, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > I also added "through the interst or activate directives" > > after "When a configured package activates a trigger". > > >

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-05-15 Thread Charles Plessy
e it gets futher proof-reading and seconds. Or if it takes time, shall I point to this bug log on -devel ? Cheers, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-dpkg-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas..

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-05-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi Raphaël, thanks for the quick feedback. In the list of directives, I have moved the "noawait" variant on top to better show that they are the default choice. I also reworded your suggestion to make it a positive recommenation: use "interest" and "activate" only if you want to put the triggeri

Re: Switching packages to non-awaiting triggers

2013-05-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, May 07, 2013 at 08:44:03PM +0200, Guillem Jover a écrit : > > interest → interest-noawait > activate → activate-noawait > > supported by the dpkg in stable, which in addition should produce easier > upgrade paths. Hi, this is being fixed for mime-support in its version 3.54. Have a

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-05-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:07:19PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > Here are my comments. There's quite a bit of work left. Thanks a lot Raphaël and everybody ! I think that I took care of all of your comments. Here is an updated patch. Among the changes, it introduces sub-section to make

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-03-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 04:11:19AM +0100, Guillem Jover a écrit : > On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 08:37:25 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > I am still seeking comments for the attached patch, that describes Dpkg > > triggers. > > I've not yet allocated a chunk of time to take a

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-03-14 Thread Charles Plessy
Hello everybody, I am still seeking comments for the attached patch, that describes Dpkg triggers. Have a nice day, -- Charles >From 6a7fd0e49cb8dbd025771feb95c2dcafb408c1b8 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Charles Plessy Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 22:48:04 +0900 Subject: [PATCH] Document d

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-03-07 Thread Charles Plessy
n. Can you do the same in the manual pages ? For the markup of the state names, while I am not completely satisfied with having them flanked with quotes instead of either italics or monospaced, I think that we can defer this to the next major release of the Policy. I attached an updated patch.

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-03-02 Thread Charles Plessy
rom: Charles Plessy Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 22:48:04 +0900 Subject: [PATCH] Document dpkg triggers. Closes: #582109. --- policy.sgml | 280 ++-- 1 file changed, 273 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index d818

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-03-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 04:41:55PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > I am having a look at how to document triggers. In order to simplify the > explanation and re-use more easily material from the file above, I think > that we would benefit from documenting the dpkg states for a p

Re: Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-02-23 Thread Charles Plessy
e please let me know. I wonder where to add this information: either in chapter 3 (binary packages) or chapter 6 (Package maintainer scripts and installation procedure). What do you think ? Have a nice Sunday, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to d

Moving changelog and copyright files to control tarball, or merging control and data tarballs ?

2012-07-13 Thread Charles Plessy
rhaps even to update (like for translations). Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-dpkg-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.or

Re: Bug#571776: document symbols

2012-03-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:17:29AM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > Here is a new proposed patch that incorporates the feedback to date with > some other, substantial changes. > Due to the reformatting, the diff is even longer and is now really just > the complete removal of the current shlibs sect

Re: Bug#571776: document symbols

2012-01-13 Thread Charles Plessy
> - dpkg-shlibdeps - calculates shared library > - dependencies > - I propose to keep a placeholder so that the next subsections are not renumbered. Once all these sections are trimmed, we could consider removing the appendix altogether. Have a nice day, --

Re: Bug#637614: §9.10: Do not recommend to call install-docs, as it is triggered.

2011-11-05 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 01:14:31PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > here is a patch that updates §9.10: now that doc-base uses triggers, I think > it > is better to simply recommend to install the control files in > /usr/share/doc-base/, instead of recommending the use of ins

Re: Bug#593909: Names of Fields in Control Files

2010-10-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 03:13:43PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > Charles Plessy writes: > > > how about simply paraphrasing the RFC 822/5832, which our the source of > > inspiration ? In that case, the requirement for field names will be to > > be printable ASCII c

Re: Names of Fields in Control Files

2010-09-26 Thread Charles Plessy
he value and is ignored there; it is conventional to put a single space after the colon. For example, a field might Cheers, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-dpkg-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

Re: Test suites after build and Build-Depends.

2009-01-30 Thread Charles Plessy
ore and that will complain against the substvar. But it should be easy to desensitize it to substvars, which would restore compliance with our Policy. Have a nice day -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-dpkg-requ...@lists.debian.org wi

Re: new source package format in dpkg-dev

2008-03-30 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi again, Le Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:08:19AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Clearly the format 2.0 has been implemented as an academic exercise Then please do not ask for feedback on it. I am happy to spend time for you but not if it

Re: new source package format in dpkg-dev

2008-03-29 Thread Charles Plessy
kg-buildpackage: set CXXFLAGS to default value: -g -O2 dpkg-buildpackage: source package glam2 dpkg-buildpackage: source version 1058-1 dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture powerpc fakeroot debian/rules clean test -x debian/