Matthew Garrett writes:
> With my non-CTTE hat on, I think this is a demonstration that Debian
> *does* care about derivatives. It's important to ensure that derivatives
> are aware of the subtle interactions between dpkg and usrmerge,
> otherwise they may suffer from hard to diagnose issues on
On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 09:14:53PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> On Tue, 2023-06-13 at 20:01 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > After discussing this at our monthly meeting, we concluded that the
> > technical committee isn't going to take action on this at the moment.
> > There's a legitimate technical
On Tue, 2023-06-13 at 20:01 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> After discussing this at our monthly meeting, we concluded that the
> technical committee isn't going to take action on this at the moment.
> There's a legitimate technical consideration behind the warning, and
> it's necessary for
Hi Ansgar,
After discussing this at our monthly meeting, we concluded that the
technical committee isn't going to take action on this at the moment.
There's a legitimate technical consideration behind the warning, and
it's necessary for derivatives to ensure that they handle the associated
On Tue, 2023-06-06 at 11:04 +0100, Sean Whitton wrote:
> I don't think the TC has or should have any authority over dpkg
> upstream, but with dpkg being a native package, any implementation of
> our decision for the Debian archive is also implemented for dpkg
> upstream. And it might be that the
Hello Emilio,
On Thu 11 May 2023 at 12:30PM +02, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> I think you're conflating two independent things.
>
> If you override the dpkg maintainer to remove that warning that occurs on
> derivatives, then anyone could NMU dpkg and the maintainer wouldn't introduce
> it
Hi,
This thread has rather veered off the initial bug report.
On 11/05/2023 13:16, Simon Richter wrote:
Hi,
On 5/11/23 10:59, Sean Whitton wrote:
Dear ctte, please consider overruling the dpkg maintainer to include
the patch from #994388[1].
Currently dpkg contains code to emit the
On Sun, 2023-05-21 at 16:25 +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On a process level, I think I miss attempts to resolve this with the
> dpkg maintainer in a constructive way.
The patch was already suggested to the dpkg maintainer and rejected.
> Does anyone mind just closing the bug?
Yes, I do.
Hi Ansgar,
I'm speaking with a CTTE hat here, but not representing CTTE consensus.
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 11:47:42PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> Dear ctte, please consider overruling the dpkg maintainer to include
> the patch from #994388[1].
I think we need to reject this request on multiple
On Fri, 12 May 2023 at 13:21, Simon Richter wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 5/12/23 02:51, Luca Boccassi wrote:
>
> > Or alternatively, we can establish that a documentation/post-facto
> > approach is enough for derivatives, and then that's valid for all
> > changes and transitions.
>
> For the context of
Hi,
On 5/12/23 02:51, Luca Boccassi wrote:
Or alternatively, we can establish that a documentation/post-facto
approach is enough for derivatives, and then that's valid for all
changes and transitions.
For the context of this bug, the notice *is* the after-the-fact
documentation of an
On Thu, 11 May 2023 21:16:34 +0900 Simon Richter
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 5/11/23 10:59, Sean Whitton wrote:
>
> >> Dear ctte, please consider overruling the dpkg maintainer to
include
> >> the patch from #994388[1].
>
> > Currently dpkg contains code to emit the merged-/usr warning,
that's
> >
Hi,
On 5/11/23 10:59, Sean Whitton wrote:
Dear ctte, please consider overruling the dpkg maintainer to include
the patch from #994388[1].
Currently dpkg contains code to emit the merged-/usr warning, that's
dead code on Debian, but which becomes active when packages from the
Debian archive
Hi Sean,
On 11/05/2023 03:59, Sean Whitton wrote:
Hello,
On Wed 10 May 2023 at 11:47PM +02, Ansgar wrote:
Dear ctte, please consider overruling the dpkg maintainer to include
the patch from #994388[1].
Currently dpkg contains code to emit the merged-/usr warning, that's
dead code on
Hello,
On Wed 10 May 2023 at 11:47PM +02, Ansgar wrote:
> Dear ctte, please consider overruling the dpkg maintainer to include
> the patch from #994388[1].
Currently dpkg contains code to emit the merged-/usr warning, that's
dead code on Debian, but which becomes active when packages from the
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On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 14:36 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Ansgar writes:
> > Debian going out of its way to tell derivative users to switch
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