Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On So, 28 Jun 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > After that jed-extra (no response) and konqueror (you wrote email) are > > open before all the packages providing info-browser are fixed. > > I suggest you upload the jed-extra NMU in DELAYED/3 and inform the > maintainer. For konqueror, we'll leave i

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Fr, 26 Jun 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Done. I also did emacs22. I did upload my NMU to DELAYED/7. > > Thanks. > > What about the emacs21? According to the maintainer it will be removed > soon? The NMU is in DELAYED and will be processed if

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Fr, 26 Jun 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Done. I also did emacs22. I did upload my NMU to DELAYED/7. Thanks. What about the emacs21? According to the maintainer it will be removed soon? After that jed-extra (no response) and konqueror (you wrote email) are open before all the packages provid

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi, On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Mi, 10 Jun 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > > Ok, I have uploaded the version of texinfo to unstable, and have filed > > bugs against all info browsers, can be found at the same usertag as > > before. > > Who will file bugs against lintian, deb

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > > Hopefully maintainers will do it quickly, in any case I will try to help > > if we have to NMU some of them. > > I have prepared NMUs for jed, jed-extra, kdebase(konqueror), tkinfo, > pinfo, emacs21 and send debdiffs to the respective bug reports. >

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi Raphael, On Di, 09 Jun 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > I can do the bug filing, but I am not sure if I can prepare NMUs for all > > of them. > > Hopefully maintainers will do it quickly, in any case I will try to help > if we have to NMU some of them. I have prepared NMUs for jed, jed-extra,

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi Raphael, On Mi, 10 Jun 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > Ok, I have uploaded the version of texinfo to unstable, and have filed > bugs against all info browsers, can be found at the same usertag as > before. Who will file bugs against lintian, debhelper, policy? Best wishes Norbert --

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi Raphael, On Di, 09 Jun 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > And from the time-line it would mean first to upload texinfo/i-i to > > unstable, and then file bugs against the info browsers. > > Yes, although it should happen more or less at the same time in the ideal > case. Ok, I have uploaded the

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Tue, 09 Jun 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > Do we have bugs against the info browsers already filed? Not that I know. > And from the time-line it would mean first to upload texinfo/i-i to > unstable, and then file bugs against the info browsers. Yes, although it should happen more or less at

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Mo, 08 Jun 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > http://wiki.debian.org/Transitions/DpkgToGnuInstallInfo > > > > So now we have to wait for all bugs mentioned above to be fixed. Or do > > we give us a percentage we want to reach first? > > No. We should go ahead right now. The bugs have a very l

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Sun, 17 May 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > > We follow the timeline here: > > http://wiki.debian.org/Transitions/DpkgToGnuInstallInfo > > So now we have to wait for all bugs mentioned above to be fixed. Or do > we give us a percentage we want to reach first? No. We should go ahead right now.

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On So, 17 Mai 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > It's the prein...@logic.at apparently: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=prein...@logic.at;tag=texinfo-transition Ups, right, probably forgot to set the From correctly. > > Next is I guess sending bug reports to info browsers that th

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Sat, 16 May 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > I have sent out bug reports to all the packages shipping info files > without dir section. Thanks. > I have added a usertag: texinfo-transition from prein...@debian.org to > find these bugs. It doesn't look like so, the following page is empty: http

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Fri, 15 May 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Norbert, can you go ahead with this transition RSN ? (sorry, working as mountain guide makes me offlines now and then) I have sent out bug reports to all the packages shipping info files without dir section. I have added a usertag: texinfo-transition

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi, Norbert, can you go ahead with this transition RSN ? If you need help, please tell us what we can do for you. Cheers, On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > > Since that are 67 files and a bit less packages I guess we have to go > > thoru

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Fri, 01 May 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Mo, 27 Apr 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > In theory yes, but since those are real bugs in the documentation I think > > nobody will complain if you omit that step (and you're the Debian expert > > for info files since you maintain texinfo). > > O

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi 2009/5/1 Norbert Preining : > > Ok, here is a bug email, if someone wants to read it before I send it > out: Sounds fine to me! Best regards -- Danai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-dpkg-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Mo, 27 Apr 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > In theory yes, but since those are real bugs in the documentation I think > nobody will complain if you omit that step (and you're the Debian expert > for info files since you maintain texinfo). Ok, here is a bug email, if someone wants to read it befor

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > Since that are 67 files and a bit less packages I guess we have to go > thorugh the "mass bug filing" thingy on d-d? Right? In theory yes, but since those are real bugs in the documentation I think nobody will complain if you omit that step (and you'r

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Fr, 24 Apr 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > - report bugs against those packages failing to provide fully working > > info files Here is the list I created (format: pkg file). acct usr/share/info/accounting.info.gz barcode usr/share/info/barcode.info.gz bcron usr/share/info/bcron.info.gz diff

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > Next steps we should do? > - report bugs against those packages failing to provide fully working > info files > - ??? And also file bugs against all info-browsers to request their update as soon as install-info is in unstable. Cheers, -- Raphaël H

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Do, 16 Apr 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > > > Yes, but NEW will take at least a week, so I will do it now. > > > > Not if we prod an ftp assistant (one is even a dpkg co-maintainer :)). > > Ahhh ;-) Well, I am not used to that. > > I have anyway uploaded now, so here we go ... Next steps we

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Do, 16 Apr 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Try running it with #!/bin/dash and you can also use checkbashism (of > devscripts) to verify your script. Ok, maybe for one of the next versions ... > > Yes, but NEW will take at least a week, so I will do it now. > > Not if we prod an ftp assistant

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Do, 16 Apr 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Looks fine for me. I would have avoided bashisms but since you explicitely > > use bash, it's ok. > > Sorry, I always and ever programmed if in sh then for bash. I have no > idea what are bashism and what

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Do, 16 Apr 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Looks fine for me. I would have avoided bashisms but since you explicitely > use bash, it's ok. Sorry, I always and ever programmed if in sh then for bash. I have no idea what are bashism and what not. If you send a dash-compliant version it would be fi

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Di, 14 Apr 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > > New version attached, thanks for reviewing > > Any comments on that? Looks fine for me. I would have avoided bashisms but since you explicitely use bash, it's ok. > And, comments on upload to experimen

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Di, 14 Apr 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > New version attached, thanks for reviewing Any comments on that? And, comments on upload to experimental or unstable? I want to upload that before tomorrow because tomorrow I am leaving for one week in Switzerland. That would be a good time to let it

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi all, thanks for the remarks On Di, 14 Apr 2009, Nicolas François wrote: > I don't think all info files are named *.info.gz or *.info. Right, good observation > Also, it could be more robust to space issues to run something like: > find "$INFODIR" -type f | while read file; do Ok >

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On 2009-04-14 16:25 +0200, Nicolas François wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 01:36:35PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: >> On Mo, 16 Mär 2009, Nicolas François wrote: >> >> > I will try to review update-info-dir next week. >> >> That would be great, please use the version from svn always, thanks.

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Nicolas François wrote: > > ginstall-info "$i" "$INFODIR/dir" || true > > I would propose to detect errors from ginstall-info, but still continue: > > errors=0 > > ... > > ginstall-info "$i" "$INFODIR/dir" || { > errors=1 > } > >

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hello Norbert, Sorry, I forgot to report my findings. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 01:36:35PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Mo, 16 Mär 2009, Nicolas François wrote: > > > I will try to review update-info-dir next week. > > That would be great, please use the version from svn always, thanks. >

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 08:35:43 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Guillem Jover wrote: > > this way it might be possible to reuse this as the wrapper for the > > install-info package. Sorry, I should have added "in case we actually want to reuse the code"! > I'm not quite sure w

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Di, 17 Mär 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > so much when Norbert would certainly prefer to not have to separately > compile an executable given he can use a simple shell wrapper. Agreed. To follow your wrapper I have added the package name to the warning message (DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_PACKAGE). Bes

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Guillem Jover wrote: > > A new version of the patch is in my branch, it should fix all the points you > > have brought up (except the common wrapper thing): > > http://git.debian.org/?p=users/hertzog/dpkg.git;a=commitdiff;hb=pu/install-info > > I was going to give some comment

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hey! On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 12:34:51 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > I can add print this additionnal information in case there's no > /urs/bin/install-info and we have DPKG_RUNNING_VERSION set. Checking now the new warning, it might also make sense to print the package involved from DPKG_MAINTSCR

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Mo, 16 Mär 2009, Nicolas François wrote: > > - file bugs against all the info shipping packages with problematic info > > files > > Maybe recommend that install-info should be called without options but the > info files themselves should be updated. > And --section shall be avoided (this is I

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi guys, I am a bit lost ATM what *I* have to do at the moment? On Mo, 16 Mär 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > dictate what's done and the other one is a wrapper. The fact that > the install-info package decided to make it a wrapper too (as opposed to > "patch ginstall-info to have the desired beh

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi, On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Guillem Jover wrote: > Actually, if called with an absolute path, the warning should ask the > caller to not use such absolute path (maybe as a side note, explain > the rationale, because it's generally wrong, and in this case because > it will stop working if using /usr/s

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 19:07:12 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > I just wrote it. I had to do it in C otherwise I couldn't do the check > on how it's called. Cool! > > Why? What would change? info-browsers (see below) should depend on > > install-info,

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 01:45:22 +0100, Nicolas François wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 06:49:53PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > > Time line: > > - inform the maintainers of info-browsers about the fact that they > > should now depend on install-info > > - upload texinfo with the install-info

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi! On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 09:18:03 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > That looks almost right. I hope Guillem can confirm that it's ok for him > as well. > On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > > We will have 3 different install-info: > > > > 1) /usr/sbin/install-info from dpkg > > this

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hello Norbert, Sorry for not answering before and thanks a lot for your work on this topic. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 06:49:53PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > > Time line: > - inform the maintainers of info-browsers about the fact that they > should now depend on install-info > - upload texin

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Fr, 13 Mär 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > I guess so. Asking for review/test on -devel is certainly a good idea at > this point. I have prepared a document/email. Can one of you take a look at that and extend/clarify/whatever it? For testing I always put up the lastest experimental source at t

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi, On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > I have no checked all packages in the current sid archive for info > files, extracted all of them and checked with (an updated) > update-info-dir. > > There are about 50 packages where a proper dir entry is missing. GNU > install-info warns: >

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi all, I have no checked all packages in the current sid archive for info files, extracted all of them and checked with (an updated) update-info-dir. There are about 50 packages where a proper dir entry is missing. GNU install-info warns: warning: no info dir entry in ... What should we

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi Raphael, thanks a lot for the work. On Fr, 13 Mär 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > I just wrote it. I had to do it in C otherwise I couldn't do the check > on how it's called. Ok, fine. > > Why? What would change? info-browsers (see below) should depend on > > install-info, but if they don't w

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > > The Breaks: added to dpkg ensures that info browsers have the right > > dependency on install-info. That's enough, there's no reason to die. > > Ok, who is going to write the dpkg install-info wrapper? I just wrote it. I had to do it in C otherwise

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi all, On Fr, 13 Mär 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > That looks almost right. I hope Guillem can confirm that it's ok for him > as well. That would be great. > > 1) /usr/sbin/install-info from dpkg > > this one will do: > > . if called with absolute path, warn the user to use > > /usr/bi

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi, On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Do, 12 Mär 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Relying on the order inside PATH is too fragile IMO. If you want to have > > the binary as install-info directly, you'll have to wait until > > install-info is not used any more by debian packages, i.

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Do, 12 Mär 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Relying on the order inside PATH is too fragile IMO. If you want to have > the binary as install-info directly, you'll have to wait until > install-info is not used any more by debian packages, i.e. for squeeze+1. Ok, let me sum up the approach as I und

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > But should we ship the wrapper or GNU install-info itself as > /usr/bin/install-info? > > If we can assure that the /usr/sbin/install-info is called from the > maintainer scripts (there /usr/sbin should be in front of /usr/bin) > I could simply drop t

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Do, 12 Mär 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > I would rather have the new install-info in /usr/bin/, and dpkg > ships an /usr/sbin/install-info that does nothing but calls > /usr/bin/install-info if it exists and warn otherwise. (And also warn if > it's called with the full path). That sounds fine

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > - install-info is installed in /usr/sbin and the package carries a > Replaces: dpkg (<= 1.14.25) which is current unstable version The Replaces has to be unversioned if dpkg continue to ship a no-op /usr/sbin/install-info (which is the plan seen on

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Do, 12 Mär 2009, Guillem Jover wrote: > install-info do nothing if called from inside a maintainer script by > checking for the DPKG_RUNNING_VERSION environment variable for example > (this can go once the wraper in install-info disappears). What about that code in install-info (I am not sure i

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:00:26 +0200 Guillem Jover wrote: > On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 12:13:47 +, Neil Williams wrote: > > What I really need, in order to test properly, is a package that can > > trigger install-info. I admit, I'm a bit unfamiliar with triggers still > > - what do I need to change

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 14:34:41 +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Do, 12 Mär 2009, Guillem Jover wrote: > > > - can you prepare a dpkg experimental package that does not ship ii but > > > depends on install-info? > > > > As per the transition plan dpkg will still ship a dummy script that > > wa

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi all, Ok, I have new packages available which do: - support triggers, if a file is dropped into /usr/share/info then the trigger action of install-info postinst is called. That is nothing else but calling update-info-dir - the wrapper install-info is now trivial: ginstall-i

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Do, 12 Mär 2009, Guillem Jover wrote: > > deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ i-i/ > > deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ i-i/ > > Sorry, I've not yet had the time to take look, maybe this weekend. Anyway, I am testing a package that includes already trigger suppor

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 12:13:47 +, Neil Williams wrote: > What I really need, in order to test properly, is a package that can > trigger install-info. I admit, I'm a bit unfamiliar with triggers still > - what do I need to change in a package (say coreutils) that currently > contains an info doc

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Do, 12 Mär 2009, Guillem Jover wrote: > . Hope you > don't mind. Great, thanks. > I think it'd be better to not entangle those two changes, so I'd put it > in the same place as the current install-info from dpkg. A transition > from /usr

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 09:40:46 +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > Ok, here is a package, crude, nothing tested, but it is there: > deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ i-i/ > deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ i-i/ Sorry, I've not yet had the time to take look, maybe

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

I went ahead and rewrote a bit the plan and removed stuff that did not seem to apply to this transition and placed it in a wiki page, . Hope you don't mind. On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 08:49:07 +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Mi, 11 Mär 2009,

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Mi, 11 Mär 2009, Neil Williams wrote: > What I really need, in order to test properly, is a package that can > trigger install-info. I admit, I'm a bit unfamiliar with triggers still > - what do I need to change in a package (say coreutils) that currently > contains an info document and maintain

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:40:46 +0100 Norbert Preining wrote: > Ok, here is a package, crude, nothing tested, but it is there: > deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ i-i/ > deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ i-i/ What I really need, in order to test properly, is a pa

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:30:12 +0100 Norbert Preining wrote: > On Mi, 11 Mär 2009, Neil Williams wrote: > > Is it meant to only echo the command out? > > Uups, forgot the comment out the part in the install-info.sh. please can > you do so and retry. The very first lines ;-) > > Change packages ar

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Mi, 11 Mär 2009, Neil Williams wrote: > Is it meant to only echo the command out? Uups, forgot the comment out the part in the install-info.sh. please can you do so and retry. The very first lines ;-) Change packages are on the server, version 4.13a.dfsg.1-2~exp02 Best wishes Norbert

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:40:46 +0100 Norbert Preining wrote: > > Here immediately some questions: I can start preparing a separate > > install-info bin package for experimental, but > > - should we install GNU install-info into /usr/bin where there is > > ginstall-info ATM, or into /usr/sbin, wh

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

On Mi, 11 Mär 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > > Given that we have other info viewers, that seems better than bundling > > it in the info or texinfo packages. > > Right. It would still be build from the same source package texinfo, but > a separate binary package. > > Here immediately some questi

Re: Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi Guillem, On Mi, 11 Mär 2009, Guillem Jover wrote: > If you could take care of the texinfo side, I will have plenty of time > starting next month, so I might be able to handle the rest of the > transition. Ok, that would be great! > > + Changes in texinfo > >- a new install-info package r

Transition from dpkg to GNU install-info

Hi! Been meaning to ask Nicolas and you for the status of the install-info transition. But here it is now, so moving to debian-dpkg where it belongs. On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 15:04:41 +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > On So, 08 Mär 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > We already wanted that for lenny but