Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2014-09-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 23:10:30 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Guillem Jover] Hope that explains. Thank you, it does. And after giving it some thoughts, I believe the background for my surprise is that I expect recommends to behave like depends when APT::Install-Recommends is

Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2014-09-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Guillem Jover] Hope that explains. Thank you, it does. And after giving it some thoughts, I believe the background for my surprise is that I expect recommends to behave like depends when APT::Install-Recommends is enabled. Handling it like something else break the priciple of least surprise

Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2014-09-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Control: block 760084 by -1 Control: block 745834 by -1 Hi. Following up on a old bug, which now affect packages related to apache2. The new apache2 postinst code need such mechanism too. I ran into this when migrating sitesummary to the new apache2 setup. The sitesummary package recommends

Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2014-09-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 10:10:18 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Following up on a old bug, which now affect packages related to apache2. The new apache2 postinst code need such mechanism too. I ran into this when migrating sitesummary to the new apache2 setup. The sitesummary package

Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2014-09-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Thank you for the quick reply. [Guillem Jover] I've not checked those bug reports, but I'm assuming that the package might also fail in case apache2 is not installed at all? Or how do you handle that case? And the subsequent missing configuration when apache2 gets installed later on? For

Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2014-09-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Guillem Jover] The problem is that it would make the dependency resolution harder, as that's in fact changing the Recommends to Depends. So dpkg would have less leeway when there are dependency cycles and similar. But see below. I've tried to understand this comment, but failed so far. My

Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2014-09-02 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Guillem Jover] I've not checked those bug reports, but I'm assuming that the package might also fail in case apache2 is not installed at all? Or how do you handle that case? And the subsequent missing configuration when apache2 gets installed later on? For

Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2014-09-02 Thread Guillem Jover
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 15:30:44 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Guillem Jover] The problem is that it would make the dependency resolution harder, as that's in fact changing the Recommends to Depends. So dpkg would have less leeway when there are dependency cycles and similar. But see

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2008-06-18 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2008-06-18 Thread Raphael Hertzog
severity 483997 wishlist thanks On Sun, 01 Jun 2008, Stephen Gran wrote: Right now, if you have two packages that have a relationship with each other beyond a strict Dependency, there is no way to communicate that relationship to dpkg. I'm talking about things covered semantically by the

Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2008-06-18 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Raphael Hertzog said: severity 483997 wishlist thanks On Sun, 01 Jun 2008, Stephen Gran wrote: Right now, if you have two packages that have a relationship with each other beyond a strict Dependency, there is no way to communicate that relationship to dpkg.

Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2008-06-18 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Stephen Gran wrote: I'm talking about ordering of maintainer scripts in an install run. This I understood, but maintainer script are mostly used for simple tasks and for starting/stopping services. Thus I was asking you if the case where you want to order the configuration

Bug#483997: dpkg: please allow for a mechanism to specify postinst ordering beyond Depends:

2008-06-18 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Raphael Hertzog said: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Stephen Gran wrote: I'm talking about ordering of maintainer scripts in an install run. This I understood, but maintainer script are mostly used for simple tasks and for starting/stopping services. Thus I was asking you