Changes in code to create debian/control + tasks.desc file

2009-04-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, to enable building reasonable metapackages I did some changes in the code which generates the debian/control and tasksel input file. The rationale behind this is that while I had some new tasks added to Debian Med which contain prospective packages but currently no real existing package

Re: Most popular packages currently missing on the lenny-test DVD

2009-04-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: 28.0 9.2 screen (notoncd) (notwanted) Screen seems very useful. 21.3 8.4 mc (notoncd) (notwanted) Please put mc on wanted. At least in Germany it is really widely used and I

Who should recieve refunding information

2009-04-03 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, could anybody please tell me where I should send my e-mail about refunding for previous gatherings (namely the Trondheim gathering). Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: www.skolelinux.it

2009-03-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Kurt Gramlich wrote: http://wiki.skolelinux.de/ - Aufgaben übernehmen Thanks Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de

Re: www.skolelinux.it

2009-03-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Claudio Carboncini wrote: www.skolelinux.it is born with the aim of spreading debian-edu in the Italian community. In the sense of what I said yesterday about a documentation about what's inside SkoleLinux / Debian Edu I would strongly suggest to link to the tasks pages

Overview of software available in Skolelinux

2009-03-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, the documentation Wiki page[1] mentiones The Linux Signpost[2] with the text: Overview of software available in Skolelinux Well, if you ask me this is not really an overview about the *available* software. I would not say that the Signpost is not an interesting page, but if ouy ask me

Re: Overview of software available in Skolelinux

2009-03-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Yeah, the signpost have not been updated for a long time. Perhaps we are better off sending people to www.osalt.com? Well, this is just another interesting page but I would have the same problem as with signpost: It does not show an *overview*

Re: FAQ: l...@ltsp; nx

2009-02-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Klaus Ade Johnstad wrote: I never had to to any tweaking to get nx running. I just add the deb http://krnl.nl/freenx/ ./ to sources.list, and install freenx. Well, the need to add *any* entry to sources.list instead of having an official package just sucks. Why not

Re: lenny main contrib non-free

2009-02-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: in etch, Debian Edu only has a local category, while Debian has main, contrib and non-free. (Actually, they are not part of Debian but Debian provides infrastructure. Anyway...) I played around with UDD some bit. Once you mention SkoleLinux this

My report from Trondheim gathering

2009-02-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, besides the fact that Trondheim did perfectly my expectations of a nice Norwegian city and that the hosting od SLX labs was perfect I would like to give a short summary of my work at the gathering: 1. I solved an issue of the tasks pages which was frequently critizised by visitors of

Re: Red Alert: Spam // Re: Yet another list statistics for debian-edu

2009-02-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I can set you up as a moderator of comm...@skolelinux if you want experience with listadmin. :) So I guess it is decided to moderate the list and I think this decision should be _acted_ on now-ish. I have no idea why debian-edu lists seems to

Eliminating SPAM from archive (Was: Yet another list statistics for debian-edu)

2009-01-26 Thread Andreas Tille
) From: Andreas Tille til...@rki.de To: listmas...@debian.org cc: report-lists...@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Yet another list statistics for debian-enterprise (fwd) ... Once I'm writing to listmaster: What information do you need if I detected potential spam lilke http://people.debian.org

Re: Eliminating SPAM from archive (Was: Yet another list statistics for debian-edu)

2009-01-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Herman Robak wrote: Anyhow, is the listadmin working on this? I exchanged private mail with Don Armstrong on behalf of listmaster how we can avoid spam *in* *the* *archive*. I have no idea whether the SPAM I detected in the archive might be useful to increase SPAM filter

Re: iPreparing developer gathering in Trondheim

2009-01-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: What I meant: I think the tasks files for debian-edu (which in our svn trunk are currently targetted for testing) should be targeted at unstable. Well, lets discuss this face to face - I smell some missunderstanding how things are working - it's

Re: iPreparing developer gathering in Trondheim

2009-01-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I will unfortunately not be able to join in Trondheim this time. :( :-( BTW, it is correct that we have to bring sleeping bag and mattress as usual? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: iPreparing developer gathering in Trondheim

2009-01-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: - Is there anybody who volunteers to sit down next to me to check the list of packages. MOst probably there are some totten bits inside the tasks files I would like to remove. Yeah, can do :) Great. - Other packages might be

iPreparing developer gathering in Trondheim

2009-01-22 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I would like to lay out my working plan for Trondheim because I probably need a member of the SkoleLinux team to talk to. I found out that there are several packages in the tasks files which are not contained in Debian unstable which is the basic source of information for the tasks pages at

Yet another list statistics for debian-edu

2009-01-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, as you can read in my lightning talk at DebConf http://people.debian.org/~tille/talks/200808_lightning/ I did some investigation on who is frequently posting on our mailing lists. I now created graphs until end of last year and write a short summary for those lists I regard worth a

Re: Debian Edu Developer Gathering in Oslo, Norway December 5.-7. 2008

2008-11-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008, Morten Werner Forsbring wrote: The alternative dates for the gathering in January [1] is 23rd-25th and 30th-1st. Please tell us when you are able to join so we can decide the best alternative as soon as possible. A more official invitation and a deadline for deciding the

Re: future of debian-edu

2008-11-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Gerhard Prade wrote: from my point of view i have a lot of wishes, Just tell us. Creating a wishlist is always welcome. You could also use the bug reporting tool `reportbug` and tag you bug as 'wishlist'. That's perfectly welcome. but i am afraid to ask, Please

Re: future of debian-edu

2008-11-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Gerhard Prade] should i search for money, for people for developing? what can i do? [Andreas Tille] According to my experience finding people who do some work for money is not really successful. It depends a lot on how it is done

Re: Debian Edu Developer Gathering in Oslo, Norway December 5.-7. 2008

2008-11-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: So I only have one question/wish: please finalize and announce the dates for the gathering in January as early as possible. At the moment I could still free myself for basically any day, in 4 weeks it might be too late. +1 !! Kind regards and thanks

Re: Next irc meeting: Today (Wednesday) 19:00 UTC

2008-11-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Daniel Hess wrote: In oder to make this meeting really happen, we still need someone who volunteers to moderate the meeting. The agenda also needs some attention, otherwise the meeting will most properly not last one hour :) I really hope that it lasts one hour because I

Re: Next irc meeting

2008-10-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008, Daniel Hess wrote: So after talking to Petter on irc I'm now suggesting Wednesday the 5th November still 19:00 UTC (and 20:00 CET). On regular Wednesdays (except in school holidays in Germany) I'm not able to attend before 20:00 UTC (21:00 CET). I do not consider this as

Re: r55307 - in trunk/src/debian-edu: debian tasks

2008-10-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2008 12:15, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Note that we need these firmware packages to be on the CD and DVD to make sure the hardware work. Using suggests will not make that happen, which is why I used Depends (Recommends would

Re: Name poll (Was: New name: Call for opinions)

2008-09-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: So we decided to remove all votes from the current ballot next Monday morning This happened now because nobody showe up who found a way to change a vote on doodle. and start voting again about the suggestions which are known at this point in time

Re: Name poll (Was: New name: Call for opinions)

2008-09-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, David Paleino wrote: where Change vote is a link pointing to http://doodle.ch/edition.html?pollId=ggey86bvqnmcnuybparticipantName=David+PaleinoparticipantId=$idcredential=$credential (obviously, $id and $credential have been stripped off :) ) I believe that just saving

Name poll (Was: New name: Call for opinions)

2008-09-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi once more to all related lists, my suggestion for a new name received a lot of comments and it turned out that I got not so much positive reactions on the mailing list than when discussing it with people at DebConf. The consequence of the discussion of the debian-custom mailing list was that

Re: does anyone know a substitution for CrystalMaker

2008-09-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Ji ZhengYu wrote: I have an advice, remove this link http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/edu/tasks/chemistry.html ^^^ because I think it's spare. Why we need this if there is a much more complete source in

Re: Criteria for educational software

2008-09-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: But sure, go ahead and setup an isolated structure for non-packaged stuff or if not interested in pushing the broader perspective here. There is an isolated structure in the tasks files inside the debian-edu source package (prospective packages).

Re: Criteria for educational software

2008-09-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, RalfGesellensetter wrote: In order to merge in an approved taxonomy for educational software, I'd like to point once more to the GnuEdu project. But in any case, we will have a multidimensional structure that can not be represented in a 2D grid or by a simpe tree hierarchy.

Re: does anyone know a substitution for CrystalMaker

2008-09-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I'm not quite sure what you are looking for, as I do not know CrystalMaker, but here are some proposals based on the education-chemistry task for visualizing molecules: http://viewmol.sourceforge.net/ http://www.umass.edu/microbio/rasmol/

Re: Criteria for educational software

2008-09-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, RalfGesellensetter wrote: Practically aspects: Software that is already being used by teachers in educational context might be called fit for school. This aspect seems to be reasonable at first glance, but I feel unhappy with this. The reason is that several Free Software

Re: DebianDayPT 2008 report

2008-08-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, Miguel Figueiredo wrote: 'DebianDayPT 2008' [1] took place in the University of Aveiro, Portugal on the Debian's 15th anniversary (16-Aug-2008). The event, attended by more than 50 Debian users/friends, had several presentations [2] about Debian: * Debian Project - what is

New name: Call for opinions

2008-08-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I would like to hear opinons about the new naming proposal given at http://wiki.debian.org/CDDNamingProposals#head-7bb1ae330046f9d0720b77e76d6ee7aa992b754f So I think we should go on renaming waht formerly used to be Custom Debian Distributions to Debian Integrated Solutions

Bug#491661: debian-edu: Please use proper task names

2008-07-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: debian-edu Severity: wishlist Tags: patch Please fix the task names in lang-n[bn]-desktop* task files which are to long in the case of the non-KDE tasks and no real names in the KDE tasks. See the suggested patch. Kind regards Andreas. -- System Information: Debian Release:

Please use proper task names in debian-edu tasks files

2008-07-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, as you can see on the tasks pages some overlongish tasks names disturb the output in the left menu. I do not know whether these names are used anywhere else. But in any case the recently added names are no real names. Please have a look at: $ grep --no-filename ^Task: tasks/* Task:

Re: Logo for tasks page

2008-07-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: I like the penguin with the bag, but I miss a swirl there.. :) I like this guy as well, but the format is broken in this scope - we need a banner like image with a large width and a small height ... I'd suggest Bokmål desktop then. Because afaik

Re: Educational Desktop Design: e.g. Linpus

2008-07-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Do you mean that you would like a Start this application button added to the GoPlay! application browser (and its variations too in recent incarnations, like GoLearn!, GoAdmin!, GoOffice! and others)? I think there is one problem inbetween which

Re: Logo for tasks page (Was: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs)

2008-07-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: To me, both names represent the same, and any can be used where the other would fit. Well, I trust you about historical facts and it makes no sense for me to dive into research of the past. I just would like to suggest to fix the Wiki Pages

Re: Logo for tasks page

2008-07-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, the tool which builds the tasks page is fixed now. So I was faster than you to decide which logo should be displayed. Currently it is now slx-tux. I have no strong opinion on it - just say clearly what you want to see there (or rather don't only say it - check it into SVN ...). Remark

Re: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that the url in the conf file isn't correct, but could not edit it by myself as you can see below. Do you want access to the SVN? The entry should be for example: LogoUrl: http://skolelinux.org/gfx/logo_skole.gif (maybe one knows a

Re: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What SVN? Off cdd project. I have already access to alioth.debian.org. But that config files can only be changed by a guy called tille ;-) Or members of group cdd (at least if I not set permissions wrong). All the config files are at

Re: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or members of group cdd (at least if I not set permissions wrong). cdd group is readonly ;-) Ahh, my fault - this was not intended. But if you change this please drop me at least a note to let me propagate your change to SVN - there is no

Re: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In any way, I can not change anything there. Sure - because you were no member of cdd group before. Now you are ... I do not want to discuss this question of live here. Well, it is not really a question of life ... ;-) I thought there was a

Re: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What users? Here are some possible answers: 1) Users of computers (like Linux and Windows) 2) Users of Linux distros (like Debian, Skolelinux and Ubuntu) 3) Users of the Debian distro (maybe mixed with outside stuff) 4) Users of only the Debian

Logo for tasks page (Was: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs)

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
[Just switched subject because it was drifted away from the original topic. The question is, what would be a proper Logo for Debian Edu.] On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: 5) Visitors of the web site or to fit above style: 5) Users of web browsers (like computer users and

Re: Logo for tasks page (Was: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs)

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Do you agree that the conflict is on the definition of CDD (your subject could lead to believe that it was the definition of Skolelinux vs. DebianEdu)? Yes. In my eyes Debian Edu is the Debian internal part (and as such can be called CDD) and

Re: Logo for tasks page (Was: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs)

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: What wording would you propose? Debian Edu Debian internal project (so called CustomDebianDistribution) with the goal to make the best distribution for educational purposes. SkoleLinux SkoleLinux was formerly a Debian derivative

Re: IRC meeting 2008-07-11 on #debian-edu (irc.debian.org)

2008-07-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I would like it to be even earlier, if possible. What about 15:00 UTC (17:00 CEST)? Any objections? Not for me. I have an appointment from 17:00 to 18:00 CEST - but this should not really prevent you from meeting. I might join IRC later and

Re: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs

2008-07-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, Jürgen Leibner wrote: on http://debian-edu.alioth.debian.org/ the link Skolelinux points to http://www.skolelinux.org/portal/, but that page doesn't exist on the old drupal site. http://debian-edu.alioth.debian.org/status.html isn't available too, it gives a 404. Well,

Re: Program Launcher of Sidux-Edu

2008-07-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, RalfGesellensetter wrote: Usually, our images are not updated within 1-2 years. Hence, using too stable desktops would bring you to a situation where your system is 3-4 years old. Well, I don't think that 3-4 years really fit reality especially because my impression is

[Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs

2008-07-02 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I'd like to announce the new tasks pages generating system for the CDD tasks pages. I want you to hunt for bugs in these pages for about one week before I replace the old pages by the new ones. My plan is to run a cron job[1] twice a day to regenerate all CDD pages. (The old cron jobs for

Re: Program Launcher of Sidux-Edu

2008-07-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, RalfGesellensetter wrote: some of you might know of the Sidux Project. As Kanotix did before, they provide an edge of development distro based on Debian Sid. Please mention two reasons that let you believe that Sidux will be maintained longer than Kanotix. The source

Re: ITP: controlaula -- Classroom management tool (fwd)

2008-05-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 27 May 2008, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote: It has two binary packages: controlaula ltsp-controlaula ltsp-controlaula should be installed in the clients chroot, so it should go to thin-client-server . controlaula should be installed in the teachers pc when used in ltsp or in every

Re: Best way to install Java JAR files (java packaging)

2008-05-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 25 May 2008, RalfGesellensetter wrote: And: Yes, I have been using the RFP protocol - but am not tracking its progress actively. I suppose I will get notified in case of replies. IMHO RFP tends to be unsuccessful in most cases. DDs are these days busy to work out their won ITPs and

Re: Which of the Extramadura applications are missing in Debian?

2008-05-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 12 May 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Very good. But to avoid surprises with the CD and DVD building, I recommend not using 'depends' with the initial entry. Please add new packages using the 'Ignore' header first. Ahh - got it. I have to check whether I included Ignore in the

Re: Which of the Extramadura applications are missing in Debian?

2008-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 9 May 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: URL:http://linexedu.educarex.es/index.php/Portada and see which of these packages are currently in Debian Etch and Lenny, and which is missing? I would like to see the complete list of packages, as well as the status of each package in Debian. I

Re: Which of the Extramadura applications are missing in Debian?

2008-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 9 May 2008, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote: - ejs (a physics simulator, gpl, java made) I know that Pablo Pita is working on it, but the progress is really slow as he is now learning to package, so I'm sure he needs help. See http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/edu/tasks/physics.php

Next upload? (Was: Bug#478472: generates broken source packages)

2008-05-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 4 May 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Andreas Tille]k wrote: ... and because nobody told me not to do so I now checked in the changes for the latest upload to experimental. I just noticed a strange thing in debian/control: Package: education education-astronomy Architecture: any

Re: Bug#478472: generates broken source packages

2008-05-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 6 May 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I built in Etch, and I suspect I got two old cdd-dev or debhelper, as Probably to old cdd-dev - but didn't versioned build dependencies of debian-edu from cdd-dev at least enforce working cdd-dev even in Etch? it no longer build because of

Re: Bug#479248: does not install lintian overrides

2008-05-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 5 May 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: don't invent code which might be duplicated later in debhelper. Would this be acceptable for you? Totally. Fine. BTW, I think using dh_lintian seems to need a versioned dependency from debhelper 6.x? Or if you have quick access to a stable system

Re: Bug#478472: generates broken source packages

2008-05-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 4 May 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I just noticed a strange thing in debian/control: Package: education education-astronomy Architecture: any Depends: education education-tasks (= ${binary:Version}) Several of the packages have two names and dependencies. Is it related to this

Re: Do we need all these duplicate packages on the CD?

2008-04-30 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: cpp-4.1_4.1.2-19_i386.deb gcc-4.1-base_4.1.2-19_i386.deb gcc-4.1_4.1.2-19_i386.deb gcj-4.1-base_4.1.2-16_i386.deb I guess that #374049 is one reason that gcc-4.1 stuff is pulled in. I forced 4.[23] in some library packages I recently

Re: Do we need all these duplicate packages on the CD?

2008-04-30 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: For lenny you need not fork d-shlibs, but can instead use the following: --override s/libstdc++6-dev// Hmm, does not work for libgenome or libmuscle (see branch in Debian Med packaging SVN). I tried d-shlibmove --override

Re: debian-edu_0.830~experimental_i386.changes is NEW

2008-04-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: did you followup on this, so that it will actually happen? The packages were uploaded yesterday to experimental. I hope that they are there once I'm back from vacation on Sunday evening. I would like

Re: Bug#478472: generates broken source packages

2008-04-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: I just tried to create a new debian-edu package with cdd-dev. So I checked out the debian-edu package from svn and ran make dist (in a sid chroot) which created debian-edu_0.830~svn40716~edu.lenny+1.dsc and debian-edu_0.830~svn40716~edu.lenny+1.tar.gz

Re: Bug#478472: generates broken source packages

2008-04-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: Actually my action was triggered by the mail to d-d-a recommending to provide a README.source in case dpkg-source -x $package_$vsersion.dsc ; cd $package-$vsersion is not the proper way to get the source package... (And thus I plan to move README to

Re: Bug#478472: generates broken source packages

2008-04-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: I'm all for it. In fact I wondered why you uploaded to experimental in the first place :) Because Petter asked me to do so. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Bug#478472: generates broken source packages

2008-04-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: I'm all for it. In fact I wondered why you uploaded to experimental in the first place :) Because Petter asked me to do so. ... and because nobody told me not to do so I now checked in the changes for the latest upload to experimental. -- http

Re: Request to include Debian Med meta packages _after_ freeze

2008-04-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008, Luk Claes wrote: It would be better if it can be avoided by coordinating with the package maintainers of the recommended packages, though if avoiding it didn't work, it can be considered. Well, I will definitely try to avoid it and thus I will try to upload up to date

[VAC] 23.4. - 27.4.2008 Lohme (Rügen, Germany)

2008-04-22 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I'll be probably completely offline for five days. The important packages I maintain are group maintained, NMUs for others are fine (even if I do not expect any serious trouble). There is one FTBFS bug #476063 open which I hopefully be able to fix today even if some really strange things

Re: Apt repository interoperability

2008-04-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Herman Robak wrote: Replace not supposed to do with having sex, and you may realise that you are sticking your head in the sand. I'd rather think that these people stick sand in their head. ;-) SCNR Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: debian-edu_0.830~experimental_i386.changes is NEW

2008-04-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: On Monday 21 April 2008 09:24, Andreas Tille wrote: As announced last week I uploaded debian-edu meta packages containing a new meta package education-develop to experimental. If the override file is adapted accordingly I will move on uploading

Re: Apt repository interoperability, again

2008-04-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Herman Robak wrote: 1 a) There are MANY Debian derivatives. Not all of them are binary incompatible with Debian proper. Cherrypicking packages from them could be a killer feature if common sense (check your own distro first! Check compability!) was enforced. Common

Re: debian-edu_0.830~experimental_i386.changes is NEW

2008-04-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Debian Installer wrote: Changes: debian-edu (0.830~experimental) experimental; urgency=low . * Add new meta package educatopn-develop according to a hint from a Sidux-Seminarix user (Thanks to Thomas Kross [EMAIL PROTECTED]) As announced last week I uploaded

Re: Apt repository interoperability (was: Bug#311188: Debian edu messed up my Ubuntu system.)

2008-04-21 Thread Andreas Tille
[Removed bug address from cc list because it blurs the log] On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Herman Robak wrote: Andreas, you are completely right. However, this story is being told again and again and again. Why? Because it violates assumptions that many, many users make. Especially those new to

Re: Apt repository interoperability, again (Was: Bug#311188: please stop this discussion here)

2008-04-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Herman Robak wrote: 2) Answer complaints about lacking the latest and greatest by pointing to Sid (the latest) or unofficial repositories (patent-encumbered stuff) Sid is no ready product. If you go to the bakers and ask for unbaked dough and you eat it and you get pain

Request to include Debian Med meta packages _after_ freeze

2008-04-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I just want to hear Release managers opinion about my idea to include Debian Med packages into testing after the package pool is froozen. Rationale: The meta packages are builded using the cdd-dev toolkit that verifies the available packages in a given distribution. A list of

Re: Bug#311188: Debian edu messed up my Ubuntu system.

2008-04-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008, Virginia Hicks wrote: My computer is running Ubuntu 7.10, Gutsy Gibbon.  After I installed Debian Edu, I found that 1) my boot menu states that I am using Debian, and 2) my program Ubuntu Tweak won't work because it is being told I run Debian and not Ubuntu.  Please help.

Bug#476646: debian-edu: Please include software packages that are relevant for development

2008-04-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: debian-edu Severity: wishlist Tags: patch Dear Debian-Edu developers, we consider several packages very important to teach software development in schools. So I would love to see a meta package education-develop that contains the package dependencies as they are defined in the attached

Re: Bug#476646: debian-edu: Please include software packages that are relevant for development

2008-04-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Adding a new task is not going to affect the distribution media. It will force the debian-edu package to pass NEW, so we should be careful with the timing anyway. :) OK, this is the other reason why I did not just commited the change. What do

Re: Bug#476646: debian-edu: Please include software packages that are relevant for development

2008-04-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I would recommend branching and uploading to experimental, and merge and upload to unstable when the new package has been accepted into experimental. In principle I like this idea, but technically I'm a little bit thwarted because I do not

Bug#476646: debian-edu: Please include software packages that are relevant for development

2008-04-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Btw, do we need the metapackage, or are we happy with only a tasksel task? Only a new metapackage need to go through NEW. Can we generate tasks which are only in tasksel? Well, I think cdd-dev just creates both and for the purpose that was

Re: Bug#476646: debian-edu: Please include software packages that are relevant for development

2008-04-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, RalfGesellensetter wrote: ... Depends: fp-compiler, fp-ide, fp-units-base, fp-units-gfx, fp-utils, fp-units-gtk2, \ fp-docs, fpc-source, fp-units-fcl, fp-units-i386, fp-units-multimedia, \ fp-units-misc, fp-units-net, fp-units-rtl, fp-units-fv Depends: lazarus Nice to

RE: Shool in Lille France seeking Installation CDs and goodies for an open event (fwd)

2008-04-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Perhaps this is the right list for the request? Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:31:37 +0200 From: Damien Fovet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Shool in Lille France seeking Installation CDs and goodies

Re: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] nice make -s -C $HOME/src/debian-edu/src/build/CD-administrator check-and-build

2008-04-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: I thought the tasks files are created manually Yes, the tasks files are created manually. by running make dist and then commited to svn?! No, not at all. make dist creates debian/control out of the manually created tasks files respecting the

Re: [OT] Seak for Ludger Sicking (Was: Request to Join Project Debian-Med)

2008-04-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: thanks for your interest to join Debian Med but I have problems to obtain your Alioth login name. ... Forget this mail - somebody was more clever than me and just did the job to include Ludger. ;-) Sorry for the noise Andreas. -- http://fam

Re: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] nice make -s -C $HOME/src/debian-edu/src/build/CD-administrator check-and-build

2008-04-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Andreas Tille] It was caused by running touch tasks/common; make debian/control (for the debian-edu package) while debian/changelog still had UNRELEASED as the section. The debian-edu source in svn should never have UNRELEASED

[OT] Seak for Ludger Sicking (Was: Request to Join Project Debian-Med)

2008-04-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Ludger, thanks for your interest to join Debian Med but I have problems to obtain your Alioth login name. Somehow you are not listed under the name Sicking and Alioth unfortunetely does not include the login name to the request. :-( You might like to consider subscribing the Debian Med

Re: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] nice make -s -C $HOME/src/debian-edu/src/build/CD-administrator check-and-build

2008-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: Andreas, Winnie and me have located this error, Winnie will fix this with new debian-edu uploads and Andreas will take measures that cdd-dev will complain+prevent this in future. Status update. Andreas refuses to do anything for the moment (reasons are

Re: irc meeting reminder

2008-03-31 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: Even though some of us are meeting this week in Extremadura, we will have our next irc meeting, on monday 31st of March, 19 utc (remember summertime!), 2008 on #debian-edu. Agenda at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Meeting Summary writer is missing

Is FreeNX server an issue for Debian-Edu?

2008-03-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I found an entry in the German WikiPage http://wiki.skolelinux.de/FreeNx which points to a really Debian package of FreeNX. Could somebody clarify whether there is some interest in FreeNX for Debian Edu/SkoleLinux and if yes, are there any recent packages and if also yes to this why

Re: Is FreeNX server an issue for Debian-Edu?

2008-03-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: There is interest, and I have waited for the NX team to get the packages into Debian. I believe they ran into a few problems with code duplications, NX containing copies of X.org and openssh. It turned out to be old copies with security isses,

Re: Is FreeNX server an issue for Debian-Edu?

2008-03-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Heinz-M. Graesing wrote: you may find the nx libraries as code and binary (for debian lenny/etch) on our project sites: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8454 (x2go). Without our applied patches, those libs should work with freenx (freenx contains

Re: [slx-www-int] Want to help with translation

2008-03-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Holger, ich will überigens auch mal sehen, daß man sowas in der Art: http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/GGTSPU-vaccine-nu.rki.de-17715-21964-DAT/ddtp.php auch für die Debian Edu Dependencies hinbekommt. Ich denke, das ist auch ein schöner Einstieg für Neulinge, die etwas beitragen

Re: [slx-www-int] Want to help with translation

2008-03-19 Thread Andreas Tille
[Hups, sorry, this was intended to go only to Holger ... sorry for the noise] On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi Holger, ich will überigens auch mal sehen, daß man sowas in der Art: http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/GGTSPU-vaccine-nu.rki.de-17715-21964-DAT/ddtp.php auch für

Re: [slx-www-int] Want to help with translation

2008-03-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: Did you mean http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/ddtp.php ? Because the above link gives a 404 for me.. That page is indeed very nice! Sure. Stupid proxy who includes some session stuff, sorry once more. Kind regards Andreas. PS: My plan

Re: Date of next IRC-Meeting

2008-03-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: So let's make it the 31st! Hmmm, is it reasonabel to have an IRC meeting short before several people meet in RL in Extremadura? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: debian-edu_0.828_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2008-03-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: It seems you haven't created a tag after releasing it. You do it like this: This is right. I was not aware that Debian-Edu releases are tagged. Please create the missing tag for debian-edu_0.828, thanks! :) Could somebody do me a favour and do

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