/etc/profile.d/ supposed to work? All I want is to modify the default
> umask. :/
they don't work by default, it's one of the instances where Debian does not
comply with the lsb (it's documented in /usr/share/doc/lsb-
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override
- the user one
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source gets activated for everyone on the machine, only for the members of
students/teachers, or some other condition.
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On Saturday 19 January 2008, Herman Robak wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:33:13 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > the only reason that getting an english class in the chem-lab was
> > exotic/scary and thus distracting is cause you wer
> I already did. Sadly it seems you ignored it.
the "it's distracting" ?
1) doesn't apply beyond first 2 or so classes
2a) with computer literate users it shoudn't apply in the first place:
opening kalzium in gnome v opening kalzium in kde should not offer any
c
On Friday 18 January 2008, Mark Trimble wrote:
> On 1/18/08, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Friday 18 January 2008, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote:
> > > Teachers are the weakest point of using the computers in the
> > > classroom.
Gnome and the chemistry teacher KDE.
- that lets both the math and chemistry teacher keep there comfortable
recepies [*], while still giving the kids experience with different
desktops.
[*] well at least untill the next version of whatever software they're using
comes out, as your example amply demonstrates, but then that's the
unavoidable consequence of lacking functional computer literacy
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On Friday 18 January 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 06:56:38PM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> >On Friday 18 January 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:34:29PM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
> >
> >wr
#x27;/class/year/... being A Good Thing is exactly
what I was trying to get across :)
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On Friday 18 January 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:34:29PM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> >agreed that setting a systemwide default is sensible,
> >but if at all posible there should be no barrier for users to trying out
> > a dif
On Friday 18 January 2008, nigel barker wrote:
> Andreas Tille wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> >> That's a very interesting video, that I hadn't seen yet :)
> >>
> >> but it only reinforces the need for basic com
be something seriously wrong with those schools
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On Wednesday 16 January 2008, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote:
> El mié, 16-01-2008 a las 19:03 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
>
> escribió:
> > On Wednesday 16 January 2008, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote:
> > > And the final problem is the desktop: Our students and
; also the hardest one. If this option is chosen a lot of work need to be
> done.
I think c) is definately the way to go
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putting the Autostart subdir in the existing kde-profile instead of KDEHOME
(=.kde) should do the trick
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g a higher priority config directory to XDG_CONFIG_DIRS you can
override anything in /etc/xdg, including the menu settings
in /etc/xdg/menus
desktop-profiles provides the mechanism to add in the extra config
directories once they're created
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> worden (is instelling op appparaat zelf i.v.m pinfeed zegt Harry).
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On Monday 07 May 2007, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Monday 07 May 2007 11:04, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> > > But the IKT-bok is not translated into english, only versions in
> > > norwegian, german and dutch exist.
> >
> > There should be an en
On Sunday 06 May 2007, Holger Levsen wrote:
> But the IKT-bok is not translated into english, only versions in
> norwegian, german and dutch exist.
There should be an english version somewhere, as that's what I used to
create the dutch one
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IIUC the second case applies here.
> My question now is concerning debian-edu, is it really necessary to
> change the LDAP data and if so why?
I haven't looked at this what exactly is changed, and how?
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On Sunday 04 March 2007, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 08:31:31PM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> > No i'm not it's the exact same problem of paying more then something is
>
>
On Friday 02 March 2007, Halvor Dahl wrote:
> cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> > On Friday 02 March 2007, Halvor Dahl wrote:
> >> I agree. There is no need wasting space for iceweasel on the first CD
> >> because people will probably install Firefox from Mozilla
we should just give up the "out-of-the-box" idea and make
> Skolelinux just a very small core of services and supply a list of nice
> applications and how to install them.
And maybe, whe should give up on skolelinux all to gether, and just use MS
all the way, afterall that's wh
anybody that's trown by those minor differences really
doesn't have much of a clue what they're doing, and when teaching the
whole purpose is to give kids a clue, right?
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On Thursday 01 March 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -> shipping the debian-edu defined packages in debian-edu-config is fine,
> you don't want to directly change these anyway.
oops, s/packages/profiles/
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browsers which doesn't
> know about them will look for this script. everything will work out of
> the box ;-) and i think this is what we want.
is it? that gives 2 places you need to change/set the proxy, not that big a
deal I suppose but still suboptimal, and if we go this route this needs to
be well documented
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configuration for browsers. It is
> possible to ship such informations with dns or dhcp, to make the browser
> run an script where the proxy informations are stored in.
> http://wiki.skolelinux.de/ValentinHaenel/WPAD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wpad has some english explanation of this
> our installation would then be configured by this setup.
I'm not sure about opera but most unix-browsers and tools (wget, links,
lynx, ..) will check the http_proxy variable.
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placed on the desktop, and what settings are
enforced/prohibited through the kiosk framework
> The stuff for kde2 can be savely removed I guess. Just go ahead and
> thanks again for taking care of that :)
ack, done in SVN now :)
> [0]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2006/12/msg00058.ht
ng
> unchanged files during updates, rename customized ones.
hm, we currently have 1 package debian-edu-config that's installed on all
debian-edu machines AFAIK
-> It might make more sense to split up debian-edu-config in subpackages, or
is this overkill? (post-etch
he edu-net-kde2 profile?
3) the README in debian-edu-config needs to get a description of what
kde-profile does
I'll make those changes in svn pronto If somebody can answer me the
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-manager, and I guess you need to add your users to some
> > groups.
>
> I have done that, and added myself to the plugdev group. Still no go.
If I remember correctly a thread from a while back on debian-kde pmount and
hal need to be installed
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providing infrastructure for localisation
> (l12n).
l10n not l12n (because localisation has 10 letters between l and n)
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is also the name of the project
in Norway, but internationally the above holds I think)
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umpy (he was waring a button with a
political slogan, and refused to take it of, court case is running).
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honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently
overwhelming might of the enemy." -- Winston Churchill
"Abuse of power isn't limited to bad guys in other nations. It happens in
our own country if we're not vigilant." -- Clint Eastwood in an
nal vigilance is the price of liberty." --
Wendell Phillips(1811-1884)
and besides the privacy concerns there's the litle fact that as a European
Citizen you don't need a passport to travel inside of Europe. I know I
don't currently have one as my last one expired a couple o
the added
basedir/kde-profile need not include only the changed menu structure, it
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s. In the current
> sarge release the installer seems to be completely translated into
> Spanish.
>
> Out of curiosity: where are the installer translations stored in CVS?
not any more, we moved to svn (on svn.debian.org), seems the links haven't
been changed yet -> I'll have
On Friday 30 September 2005 16:47, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> MIT are working on very cheap laptops for educational use in poor
> areas. Check out
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/09/28/HNmitlaptop_1.html>.
see laptop.media.mit.edu for the official site of the project
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Found this article on planetkde, it's linux, it's debian-based and it's in
schools :-)
http://www.webpronews.com/news/ebusinessnews/wpn-45-20050804LinuxKickingMicrosoftOutOfIndianaSchools.html
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hen I'd still go for kde-edu which leads to contradiction...
yes, which means the core of kde needs to be installed anyway.
(and let's not start that wholy war again)
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On Monday 20 June 2005 15:50, Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 02:29:36PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
> wrote:
>
> I found
> debian-edu-config/share/debian-edu/networked-kde2/share/config/kmailrc
> in the version control system,
> but I didn't
On Monday 20 June 2005 13:40, Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 11:43:57AM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> > On Monday 20 June 2005 09:42, Geert Stappers wrote:
>
>
>
> > > How will it fit in the debian-edu-configuration?
> >
> &g
. it provides a policy complient way to override
the package defaults
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at me up - I am too lazy to fight back :-P
you're not thinking this through:
being lazy you'd be lying down for the count at the start of the fight
-> no beating necesarry, win by knockout ;-O
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ing else (wether webbased or
not) _if_ we ever need to for whatever reason
- makes it possible to develop several frontends (webmin/kde/...
(note: I don't read the above as anyone planning to competly drop the
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nder the debian name if possible.
>
> that said, some countries have decided to call debian-edu
> "skolelinux" anyway since they like it better. they are free to
> do that.
I always tell people that debian-edu is the project name , and Skolelinux is
the (main) product (CDD) it pr
g bitten (there was one about the US-military basing some system
on a Version of Windows, only to have security support suspended by MS
shortly after they'd actually finished building it a couple of weeks back
for instance)
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elatively easy to do, whereas for bootfloppies this was more of a
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ill room for sleeping be available through debconf
organization or not?
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osk is off course to be used in addition to normal unix security
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down on schools in the past, so this isn't something you can
ignore.
4) With free software you're not at the mercy of a third party living of
lock-in (that goes for both bugs and upgrades)
5) with free software you can script all the routine maintenance tasks
(translating to lower T
ars that usefull free
software apps really started to appear. (the difference between kde-edu
from 2.2. and 3.3. for example is enormous).
In addition kde 3.X brought the kiosk system which allows a level of
administrator control that's a quantum leep above what was available
before.
original ones:
> ln -s pam_ldap-debian.edu.conf /etc/pam_ldap.conf
4. for config of the desktop/desktop programs we add in an extra
configuraton profile source with our wanted config values
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doing it several times)
[2] David, Manuela, if you'd prefer to use the po-files at this point then
let me know, so I can do the syncing now (hold of on updates while I do so)
> ps. I like CC
ack, CC'ing now (didn't earlier as the debian list policy is to only do so
when asked)
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e errors)
3) it gives translators a single format to work with for all translations.
Meaning they can use the same tools for all translations, and don't need to
be bothered learning about lot's of (ok, several :) different formats and
asociated tool-sets.
P.S. I'm guessing we
m= values:
>
> The Bios says it has 4034MB RAM
> so i tried mem=4034M which resulted in a slow server again,
> butmem=4030M works fine.
of course it doesn't sound like the above explains the 4034 vs 4030, that's
a very weird difference
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e details on the technical shortcomings of
> Plone?
- no notification that something changed -> difficult to keep translations
in sync which needs to be done manually
- no ability to work on the site offline
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the review=the article I mailed about earlier this week
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On Thursday 03 March 2005 18:04, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 03-03-2005 17:54, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> >>Are you saying that if both teacher and student profiles are installed
> >>on same machine, it is somehow possible to choose per login or per
> >&g
On Thursday 03 March 2005 16:40, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 03-03-2005 16:20, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> > On Thursday 03 March 2005 15:35, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
> > In fact we currently have 3 profiles (or rather we do in the
> > cvs-version of debian-edu
On Thursday 03 March 2005 16:20, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> - networked-kde2 -> networksettings for kde2
> - networked-kde3 -> networksettings for kde3
One of these is activated for machines inside a Skolelinux network, i.e.
everything that isn't installed as stan
On Thursday 03 March 2005 15:35, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> I think all three of us are saying the same thing here. This is not a
> nice solution. The only thing I can recall that might be a simple (if
> inelegant) approach to t
essor like KWord better suited for the kids. But now , with the
> new KWord, I find that it is moving in the bloatware direction. So Maybe
> it's the right time for leaving KOffice out, and focusing on OOo ?
I'd take that the other way around as KOffice is a _lot_ faster then OOo :-O
-
On Thursday 03 March 2005 13:19, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> > BUT for basic use (i.e. excluding macro's and similar advanced
> > features) it really shouldn't matter which office suit (or e-mail
> > client, o
On Thursday 03 March 2005 13:19, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> > they're both in the process of moving to the OASIS format
> > by default (koffcie 1.4, and openoffice 2.0 will both use the same
> > standarized format by
offcie 1.4, and openoffice 2.0 will both use the same
standarized format by default) -> in this case that's merely a matter of
time, it's being worked on.
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in for example South
Africa (23 official languages if I recall correctly), and Norway.
If it isn't, then it's up to 'just' the users of that language, if there's
enough interest in a local language version then it can be done. That's the
beaty of Free Sof
zine (http://www.openmagazine.nl/node/view/219)
(http://www.openmagazine.nl/fileserv/files)
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n as part of the debian-edu-install package
(and really only does some preseeding based on the answer to the question
'which profile do you want' AIUI)
given the above I don't see any reason to not send installer bugs to the
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On Tuesday 22 February 2005 17:43, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 February 2005 14:34, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> I need to check but I think webmin-ldap-skolelinux was the only module
> changed this way.
oh question:
- development of wlus is no longer done in skole
On Tuesday 22 February 2005 21:31, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> I'm thinking of doing the following
just finished changing the po-webmin scripts to deal with the WLUS lang/XX
files being utf-8 correctly in the future, (NOTE: any new lang/XX files
will have to be re-encoded to ut
On Tuesday 22 February 2005 20:39, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 05:43:23PM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> > On Tuesday 22 February 2005 14:34, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> webmin handles the module config page itself and uses latin1
> there, while
files) converted to utf-8
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[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2005/01/msg00233.html
[3] http://www.webmin.com/modules.html#newlang
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I guess explains why those are not in Debian yet)
note: the freenx packages are still in the experimental section of the
kalyxo archive, i.e. not yet ready for inclusion into Debian
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On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:22, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> On Thursday 27 January 2005 05:04, Aracnus wrote:
> > Hi Andreas and everybody else,
> >
> > Was the pot files on CVS updated? The pt_BR is 100% translated. I did
> > not receive this change. Where
There's a link to get the .pot file from [1], or directly from the cvs on
developer (you have access right?)
[1] http://www.skolelinux.org/portal/contribute/translation/
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ou would to update
debconf translations, but replace debconf with webmin :)
NOTE: you need to install po-webmin package (source is in cvs on developer,
a build package is available from my homedir on developer)
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gay rights, alternative religions, and in
at least one case the site from Amnesty International [1].
See also www.peacefire.org, one of the groups fighting to expose blocking
software's biased view.
[1] http://www.peacefire.org/amnesty-intercepted/
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off-line.
Does eZ allow updating through cvs/subversion/whatever?
> Do we want to change Plone for X on skolelinux.org? Might X be eZ?
I don't really care what we use on skolelinux.org, but being able to work on
it while off-line is a major feature for me.
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> group "admins". The second to the users gavinm and johne. I think this
> should work with LDAP.
here also you can restrict from where you can login
e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] only allows logins from localhost for members of the
group admin
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On Friday 10 December 2004 14:48, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> On Friday 10 December 2004 14:21, TorstI lost a couple of minutes
> googgling
>
> for it. I shall never forgive you.ein Dybdahl wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > We have at my school a
> > wood
can check the kde-version used with the command 'kde-config
--version | grep "^KDE"'
> This is because we need two different kickerrc files for kde2 and kde3.
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On Saturday 04 December 2004 19:15, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> the Kommandertext of the button starts with '@'
er, not sure how that got in there, ignore please
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certain
extensions (and as a bonus it seams to be completely impossible to even
view or save them in outlook, which off course makes people mail .bat files
around as .bet and the like :)
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ns of this problem?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/#execsummary
has some great info
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on/manuals section of the portal)
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On Monday 25 October 2004 21:24, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> > [1] it's located in debian-edu cvs an alioth src/desktop-profiles
> > module, current build of the package is available at
> > http://developer.skolelinux.n
sk framework, ...)
- debian-edu-admin -> settings for admins (links to admin-tools and
documentation on desktop, )
-
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kate' to start kate with root priviliges
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they should be
> verified:
> Q: What can I do if the "task bar" (i.e. kicker) hangs?
> A: killall -9 kicker; kicker
A: press alt+f2, enter command "dcop kicker kicker restart"
is better as it also restarts kicker
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op basedir spec [1] which specifies where
to look for configuration files?
[1] http://freedesktop.org/Standards/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.6.html
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cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis):
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s, feel free to change things
around, once you have a working setup
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Skolelinux België- http://i18n.skolelinux.no/belgium
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this on the
contribute/translation section of the portal.
If anybody knows about (or wants to take the time to find) the places to
start on translation of other software used in Skolelinux could you please
reply with that info, so it can be added as well.
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cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis):
On Monday 16 August 2004 14:27, Athena - Joe Scaramucci wrote:
> Scrive "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Monday 16 August 2004 10:17, Athena - Joe Scaramucci wrote:
> > hm, I just tried opening the pdf files from a windows 2000 box at work
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