Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-12-08 Thread Miles Bader
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are: 1. All x86 processors with names including '486' I'm still running the machine below, and it would be irritating to have to replace it. ... vendor_id : CentaurHauls cpu

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-27 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2011/11/23 Matthias Klose d...@debian.org: On 11/19/2011 11:42 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: (Later it should be increased further, and eventually i386 should be reduced to a partial architecture that may be installed on amd64 systems.)  This would allow the use of optimisations and new

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthias Klose d...@debian.org writes: On 11/19/2011 11:42 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor. I think it

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-23 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] Where the relevant patches added to binutils and gcc for this? See for yourself: http://sites.google.com/site/x32abi/ -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-gcc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 00:44 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 11/19/2011 11:42 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors and now require a minimum of a 486-class

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:47:20PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Ben Hutchings writes (Increasing minimum 'i386' processor): The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are: 1. All x86 processors with names including '486' I'm still running the machine below, and it would

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Ben Hutchings writes (Increasing minimum 'i386' processor): The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are: 1. All x86 processors with names including '486' I'm still running the machine below, and it would be irritating to have to replace it. Perhaps a better approach would

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Lors de la soirée naissante du mardi 22 novembre 2011, vers 18:28, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org disait : The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are: 1. All x86 processors with names including '486' I'm still running the machine below, and it would be irritating to

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:47:20PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Ben Hutchings writes (Increasing minimum 'i386' processor): The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are: 1. All x86 processors with names including '486' I'm still running the machine below, and it would

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Matthias Klose
On 11/19/2011 11:42 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor. I think it is time to increase the minimum

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Matthias Klose
On 11/20/2011 01:08 AM, Guillem Jover wrote: Hi! On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 22:42:11 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors and now require a minimum of a 486-class

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-21 Thread jidanni
How does one do a simple test to see if one is on the death list? # grep -c 86 /proc/cpuinfo 0 # lshw | grep -c 86 0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-gcc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org writes: Hi! On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 22:42:11 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors and now require a minimum of a 486-class

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 19, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: I think it is time to increase the minimum requirement to 586-class, if not for wheezy then immediately after. I agree, it's time to weight the costs and benefits of supporting obsolete hardware at the expense of most users. (Later it

Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor. I think it is time to increase the minimum requirement to 586-class, if not for wheezy then

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 22:42:11 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor. I think it is time to increase

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote: Also possibly: 6. DMP/SiS Vortex86 and Vortex86SX. These supposedly have all 586-class features except an FPU, and we could probably keep FPU emulation for them. FWIW, I do run Debian on such systems albeit with a custom kernel. Given those CPU