* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [091007 14:43]:
There are still more issues with hppa popping up than with other
architectures, but the general direction looks promising. For this
reason, we have decided that we try to avoid the additional burden of
packages getting out of sync, and
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Andreas Barth a...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [091007 14:43]:
There are still more issues with hppa popping up than with other
architectures, but the general direction looks promising. For this
reason, we have decided that we
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de wrote:
* Carlos O'Donell:
The nptl enabled hppa libc packages are in experimental.
e.g.
apt-get -t experimental install libc6
Out of curiosity, does this version support cross-process mutexes?
Yes, two applications that are
* Carlos O'Donell:
The nptl enabled hppa libc packages are in experimental.
e.g.
apt-get -t experimental install libc6
Out of curiosity, does this version support cross-process mutexes?
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* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090816 13:24]:
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
operation, i.e. there are not many
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Andreas Barth a...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
Things have become better, I'd like to thank you for that.
Thanks!
There are still more issues with hppa popping up than with other
architectures, but the general direction looks promising. For this
reason, we have
On 10/07/2009 02:43 PM, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090816 13:24]:
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Kyle McMartin k...@mcmartin.ca wrote:
I'm correct they're both A500's, right?
Nope. Both J6700's.
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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 08:46:48PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Carlos O'Donell
car...@systemhalted.org wrote:
Please issue a sysrq-t (ctrl^c, send break, t) on peri's console and
tell me if it crashes the kernel?
Yes, it does. (echo t
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:50 PM, dann frazier da...@dannf.org wrote:
I'm still working on providing you with a new kernel for penalosa.
Just fyi, peri has been up 2 weeks.
penalosa had been up 13 days, but crashed in the past day or so. The
console log follows.
This is more evidence that
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 04:08:28PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:50 PM, dann frazier da...@dannf.org wrote:
I'm still working on providing you with a new kernel for penalosa.
Just fyi, peri has been up 2 weeks.
penalosa had been up 13 days, but crashed in the
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 02:09:09PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 04:08:28PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:50 PM, dann frazier da...@dannf.org wrote:
I'm still working on providing you with a new kernel for penalosa.
Just fyi, peri has been
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 07:22:14PM -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 02:09:09PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 04:08:28PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:50 PM, dann frazier da...@dannf.org wrote:
I'm still working on
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Bartha...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
operation, i.e. there are not many issues with e.g. architecture specific
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, dann frazier da...@dannf.org wrote:
After about a week of loaded uptime, penalosa returned to instability
over the weekend.
It began with an Illegal instruction leading to a panic:
http://people.debian.org/~dannf/penalosa/penalosa.0
I then rebooted it, and
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:36:48PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, dann frazier da...@dannf.org wrote:
After about a week of loaded uptime, penalosa returned to instability
over the weekend.
It began with an Illegal instruction leading to a panic:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:36:48PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, dann frazier da...@dannf.org wrote:
After about a week of loaded uptime, penalosa returned to instability
over the weekend.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Thibaut VARENE vare...@debian.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM, LaMont Joneslam...@debian.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:35:00PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
That would prevent it from getting uploaded, but won't that package
get marked as
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:01 PM, LaMont Jones lam...@mmjgroup.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that would certainly add
load to the others.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
I think the way forward is:
* You get me a console trace.
* I give you an instrumented kernel/initrd.
* Repeat.
*nod*
Trimming CC.
fyi, now that I've started logging the console, penalosa has become
strangely stable:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
lafayette is hosted by Thibaut @ ESIEE - I'm not sure what hardware it
is or what kernel it runs. It only does security builds as I
understand it, which should keep the load relatively low.
Thibaut indicates that this machine
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
lafayette is hosted by Thibaut @ ESIEE - I'm not sure what hardware it
is or what kernel it
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
lafayette is hosted by Thibaut @ ESIEE - I'm not sure what hardware it
is or what kernel it runs. It only does security builds as I
understand it, which
Hi,
On Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 14:15:06 -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
lafayette is hosted
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Martin Zobel-Helaszo...@ftbfs.de wrote:
Where is sarti physically located? Has there been an attempt to revive it?
yes, its dead. we asked the local admin recently to decommission it.
Has debian asked the original sponsors for a replacement machine?
Cheers,
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:35:00PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
That would prevent it from getting uploaded, but won't that package
get marked as built, preventing other buildds from trying?
Yep. If you just want to build packages over and over, then don't start
the buildd up, and just run
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:01:24PM -0600, LaMont Jones wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that would certainly add
load to the others.
Sarti
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM, LaMont Joneslam...@debian.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:35:00PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
That would prevent it from getting uploaded, but won't that package
get marked as built, preventing other buildds from trying?
Yep. If you just want to build
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:01 PM, LaMont Joneslam...@mmjgroup.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that would certainly add
load to the others.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:53 PM, dann frazierda...@dannf.org wrote:
We have been running with UP kernels for quite some time, and they
haven't proven to be any more stable. Most recently I've upgraded
peri/penalosa to 2.6.31-rc6-based kernels since they were inclusive of
the various changes I
[correcting lamont's e-mail]
LaMont: have you been seeing further random segfault bugs on
peri/penalosa over the past week or two? Is this something you can
monitor for us?
Rest inline..
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:10:28PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:53 PM, dann
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Luk Claesl...@debian.org wrote:
Peter Palfrader wrote:
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
Some of the buildd kernels still cause segfaults, it would be good to
have an idea what's been done for them and how long you estimate it to
take to solve them.
Not
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
Some of the buildd kernels still cause segfaults, it would be good to
have an idea what's been done for them and how long you estimate it to
take to solve them.
Not some. All of our buildd kernels are broken to various degrees.
This needs to get fixed
Peter Palfrader wrote:
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
Some of the buildd kernels still cause segfaults, it would be good to
have an idea what's been done for them and how long you estimate it to
take to solve them.
Not some. All of our buildd kernels are broken to various degrees.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Luk Claesl...@debian.org wrote:
Did I miss a plan or was there no real plan written down?
I'm especially thinking of some kind of milestones and deadlines about
the nptl transition and the buildd kernel problems.
AFAIK the nptl transition is currently being
Andreas Barth wrote:
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
operation, i.e. there are not many issues with e.g. architecture
* Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl) [090822 07:34]:
Andreas Barth wrote:
* Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090821 16:49]:
xmms2 is the only package that doesn't build.
Analysis of the xmms2 build shows that this is a python crash.
Thankfully the python crash reproduces (in a
Andreas Barth wrote:
BTW, I'm still missing the vlc upload for hppa (as well as for mipsel,
but the mipsel problem is found + solved on IRC).
Built but awaiting upload together with 124 other packages :-(
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On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Frans Popelen...@planet.nl wrote:
Good. I might still break this package because libcdio is blocking
lots of binNMUs, and we need to try to keep transitions as small as
possible, but of course as soon as this package is fixed it's welcome
to get in sync (and if
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Andreas Bartha...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
packages are out-of-date on hppa, and for this reason cannot enter
testing (and they
* Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090821 16:49]:
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Andreas Bartha...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
packages are out-of-date
Andreas Barth wrote:
* Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090821 16:49]:
xmms2 is the only package that doesn't build.
Analysis of the xmms2 build shows that this is a python crash.
Thankfully the python crash reproduces (in a different location each
time). I'll look into this.
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Andreas Bartha...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
Or are you simply asking the hppa porters to be more active in filing
FTBFS bugs against packages after build failures?
If they would do that, that might be quite helpful to distinguish
between hppa issue and package
* Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090819 14:56]:
I didn't know vlc, xmms2, and xmp were not building. I'll add them to
my list and look over the failures. I don't know how to get visibility
into what's failing for hppa.
Basically, by e.g. checking the testing excuse page which
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Andreas Bartha...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
* Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090819 14:56]:
I didn't know vlc, xmms2, and xmp were not building. I'll add them to
my list and look over the failures. I don't know how to get visibility
into what's failing
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Frans Popelen...@planet.nl wrote:
Carlos O'Donell wrote:
I didn't know vlc, xmms2, and xmp were not building. I'll add them to
my list and look over the failures. I don't know how to get visibility
into what's failing for hppa.
Do you know of:
So I should be looking for packages in the Failed state that say
(N-1)/N (fails only on hppa)?
Yes, especially when N is already high (i.e. most arches have built the
package). Packages with (N-2)/N or even (N-3) are probably also worth
looking at but can be given lower priority.
And
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
operation, i.e. there are not many issues with e.g. architecture specific
build failures.
I
Frans Pop wrote:
Andreas Barth wrote:
As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
packages are out-of-date on hppa, and for this reason cannot enter
testing (and they depend on an old library that will go
* Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl) [090816 15:57]:
Andreas Barth wrote:
As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
packages are out-of-date on hppa, and for this reason cannot enter
testing (and they
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, John David
Anglind...@hiauly1.hia.nrc.ca wrote:
End of assembler dump.
(gdb) p/x $r21
$2 = 0x1
From the values in the core dump and the code, I calculate that r21
should contain the value 0x40368880. So, it seems another instance
of cache corruption.
In summary, the segfault problem is still there and a major issue,
particularly with SMP kernels. Without a testcase that consistently
triggers the problem, it's almost impossible to debug what's going
wrong.
I have updated and attached my patch set for 2.6.30.4. So, changes
are now in
End of assembler dump.
(gdb) p/x $r21
$2 = 0x1
From the values in the core dump and the code, I calculate that r21
should contain the value 0x40368880. So, it seems another instance
of cache corruption. However, in this case, it's not at program
startup.
Dave
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On 07/30/2009 07:44 PM, John David Anglin wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Bartha...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
the issues:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
I can't comment on this
Hi,
there are some issues in the hppa port that currently let us doubt whether
we should continue to carry on that port to next stable. Apart the fact
that hppa is no longer buyable as new, there are quite a few technical
issues.
You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Bartha...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
the issues:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
I can't comment on this issue. I hope Dave can?
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:44 PM, John David
Anglind...@hiauly1.hia.nrc.ca wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Bartha...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
the issues:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Bartha...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
the issues:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
I can't comment on this issue. I hope Dave can?
Over the past few
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:44:03PM -0400, John David Anglin wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Bartha...@not.so.argh.org wrote:
You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
the issues:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
In your opinion, what is the most stable kernel configuration that
should be run on the buildds?
If the buildd has to run a SMP kernel, then 2.6.22.19 as patched for gsyprf11.
There is a minor issue wrt setting the RTC at startup, but it can be
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