On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 02:40:04AM -0700, Seth Nickell wrote:
> Another valuable tool would be Bugzilla. I know nothing of this...but
> would sourceforge be willing / able to host bugzilla for us? The value
> in Bugzilla is that it makes it easier for non-HURD *developers* to be
> attracted to the
> We can't even think about a release before those problems are fixed.
A release, even a "snapshot release" also needs a checklist, it probably
wouldn't be a terrible idea to start one now. I see two entries below,
and would like to humbly add a stable, recent version of XFree86 and
servers to the
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 12:40:14AM +0200, Farid Hajji wrote:
> Is there some kind of 'make world' infrastructure in GNU/Hurd? I'd like
> to be able to update (at least) hurd/, glibc/, gnumach/, mig/ and grub/
> sources directly from subversions.gnu.org and just call 'make world' to
> get everyting
Chris,
> BSD user space pppd uses tund to establish sockets, (this may not be the right
> word)
>
> tund depends on openssl for the encription library libssl; but is this open?
> This needs a licence that can be single user, but could the source and
> licence be
> openly distributed as part of
On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 11:58:53PM +0200, Farid Hajji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> 1. Use a regular file on the foreign filesystem and mke2fs on it, then
>boot directly off this file-based filesystem. The big file would
>contain an (ext2fs) image of the hurd filesystem.
>
> 2.
Is there some kind of 'make world' infrastructure in GNU/Hurd? I'd like
to be able to update (at least) hurd/, glibc/, gnumach/, mig/ and grub/
sources directly from subversions.gnu.org and just call 'make world' to
get everyting recompiled. (a la FreeBSD). The same for single parts too
and of cour
> Farid Hajji wrote:
> > And yes, the docs... Although things start improving now, we still need
> > a lot more of tutorial-like materials. "Hello worlds" for misc. parts of
> > the system may be one way to introduce newbies to the internals of Mach
> > and the Hurd(-libraries). I'm thinking here e
Here is Ctreads tutorial.
Tutorial is in README.
All examples are in own files in addition to being included in README.
There is a Makefile (for GNU make), so you can easily compile all examples
Comments highly appreciated.
There are a few FIXMEs for implementation-specific problems,
and things I
Hello,
one little annoying aspect in the current version of the Hurd (and gnumach)
is, that it requires a partition of its own with an ext2fs filesystem.
It would be nice to have the additional option to install the Hurd
filesystem inside an existing "foreign" filesystem of another OS.
There are
Andreas Rottmann wrote:
> 1) How can I avoid the HURD from asking me for the root device? Adding
> 'hd0s7' to the 'module serverboot.gz' line doesn't help. :-(
simply edit menu.lst of GRUB (i have it in /boot/grub/)
add something like this
--cut here--
title hurd-single
root (hd0,2)
kernel=/boot
Jeff Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 04:10:00PM +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote:
>
> > I just got a mainboard, AMD K5 100 and 120MB HDD *g* lieing around and
> > will use that to put together a HURD box.
>
> The 120 MB HD will probably do you to boot and run the system
A problem I've encountered with developing both on and for the GNU/HURD is
the tools used to develop, or a possible lack of them. Perhaps it is just
me, but ld does not work (at least not the one found with the binutils from
ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-hurd-i386). (If this is just
On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 04:10:00PM +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote:
> I just got a mainboard, AMD K5 100 and 120MB HDD *g* lieing around and
> will use that to put together a HURD box.
The 120 MB HD will probably do you to boot and run the system, but will
be painfully small for development. IIRC
> If you accept opinions from people who have just booted the Hurd a
> handful of times (but who are seasoned Debian-GNU/Linux users), and if
> you don't mind an answer that is too personal,
>
> > 4. Lack of hello-worlds.
> > BIg hello-worlds archive could convert many hackers to Hurd.
> > Havin
Tomasz Wegrzanowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I just got a mainboard, AMD K5 100 and 120MB HDD *g* lieing around and
will use that to put together a HURD box.
I am in the Debian NM Queue, and am the maintainer-to-be and author
libgql. I will try to port that, libsigc++ and other stuff to th
On Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 10:06:24PM +0200, Tobias Hunger wrote:
> That's where the next thing comes in: The hurd does not yet support my
> PCMCIA-network card. Marcus told me at the LinuxTag some weeks ago that it is
If I remember well, you could use a D-Link Pocket adapter attached to the
paral
On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:27:49AM +0200, Tomasz Wegrzanowski <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
> Proposal :
>
> You could burn CD containing :
> - Debian GNU/Hurd .debs
> - Hurd packages from alpha.gnu.org
> - sources for Hurd-specific packages
> (burning packages which sources exist for D
Am Sam, 15 Jul 2000 05:31:25 Farid Hajji Sie:
> Hi Okuji,
>
> > That's interesting, but what I'm more interested in is the reason
> > why the number of developers doesn't increase, even though so many
> > people subscribe to the list. This is not ironical but a purely
> > academic interest for m
Am Fre, 14 Jul 2000 20:09:50 OKUJI Yoshinori Sie:
> From: Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Mailing List traffic and membership
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:37:09 +0200
>
> > The graph shows that there is a steadily increasing interest in the Hurd,
> > and a decreasing amount of time
(sorry to jump into the discussion)
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Roland McGrath wrote:
> I strenuously apologize for getting a job.
Is this the case for many? And if it is, is it because people want to be
able to put food on their tables (i.e. money-issue) or something else?
My organization is thin
Who said there are no devlopers for Hurd, I am a linux luser but we in India
have formed hurd programmer ring. For details go to
We are seriously working our way to become devlopers on hurd. We all have
installed Hurd from debian packages.
The BSD pppd depends on kernel tunneling < as they call
Hello,
I am just getting back into the hurd.I down loaded the gnu-latest tar ball and
the
latest grub.When I tried to boot with Grub the first time I get an error msg
saying My
bios does not suppport booting into the hurd cylinder.I have a fairly recent
FIC SD11
motherboard with LBA enabled.I h
Farid Hajji wrote:
> Hi Okuji,
>
> > That's interesting, but what I'm more interested in is the reason
> > why the number of developers doesn't increase, even though so many
> > people subscribe to the list. This is not ironical but a purely
> > academic interest for me.
> first of all, we need
On Sat, 15 Jul 2000, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 05:49:18AM +, Philip Charles wrote:
***
> > The best I could do at the moment would be to collect the various bits and
> > pieces; grub, documentation etc and burn them onto a CD(s). I don't know
> > how useful this w
On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 03:09:50AM +0900, OKUJI Yoshinori wrote:
> From: Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Mailing List traffic and membership
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:37:09 +0200
>
> > The graph shows that there is a steadily increasing interest in the Hurd,
> > and a decreasing
On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 05:49:18AM +, Philip Charles wrote:
> As a CD vendor I have been lurking in this group for about five months
> now. I have also added Hurd to my Debian archive and keep it up to date.
> My hope is that at some time I could assist the Hurd community by
> producing a suit
On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 02:27:02AM -0300, Eduardo Nahum Ochs wrote:
> 6. Lack of multiple VTs.
> If the Hurd had multiple VTs then I would use it often when I only
> need to edit text/programs in supported languages/etc, and I would
> explore the system in the intervals... Yes, I know that I coul
On Sat, 15 Jul 2000, Farid Hajji wrote:
> Hi Okuji,
>
> > That's interesting, but what I'm more interested in is the reason
> > why the number of developers doesn't increase, even though so many
> > people subscribe to the list. This is not ironical but a purely
> > academic interest for me.
>
If you accept opinions from people who have just booted the Hurd a
handful of times (but who are seasoned Debian-GNU/Linux users), and if
you don't mind an answer that is too personal,
> 4. Lack of hello-worlds.
> BIg hello-worlds archive could convert many hackers to Hurd.
> Having to spend two
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