Re: Woody release?

2001-04-17 Thread Philip Charles
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 06:36:41PM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote: > > Obvious differences that will arise for core installer components are > > The core installer components will need to understand settrans to do > > things like mount, ifconfig. I was th

Re: Woody release?

2001-04-17 Thread Philip Charles
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Jeff Bailey wrote: > > Basicly what we are doing now. If people are happy with this, lets us > > stick with. > > I think we should do this, if it permits us to join the rest of Debian > as an official architecture. I think that waiting until we hit > "Perfect" will mean wai

Re: Woody release?

2001-04-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 06:36:41PM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote: > Obvious differences that will arise for core installer components are > The core installer components will need to understand settrans to do > things like mount, ifconfig. I was thinking of maybe putting a wrapper > around settrans to

Re: Woody release?

2001-04-17 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:47:02PM +, Philip Charles wrote: > > > Size may be more of an issue under the Hurd as well, for linux will are > > > aiming to get the kernel and core components onto 1 floppy. uClibc helps > > > a lot under linux, it saves a few hunder kB compared to glibc. > > > >

Re: Woody release?

2001-04-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:39:22AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > Trying to coordinate too many archs. The release cycle has been surprisingly consistent with all past releases I experienced or heard of. It doesn't seem to depend on the number of released architectures at all. Marcus -- `Rhubar

Re: Woody release?

2001-04-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:04:59PM -0700, Jeff Bailey wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:27:36AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > > > > > Fully functional dselect? > > > > > > What's not working in dselect? > > > > I found it aborting when it hit contrib, so I threw everything into the > > main f

Re: Woody release?

2001-04-17 Thread Philip Charles
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Jeff Bailey wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 06:36:41PM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote: > > > Size may be more of an issue under the Hurd as well, for linux will are > > aiming to get the kernel and core components onto 1 floppy. uClibc helps > > a lot under linux, it saves a few

Re: Wow! I just built oskit in Hurd!

2001-04-17 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi, For some reason or other, I couldn't build oskit-mach in Linux. It has been a while since I tried it, so I'm not exactly sure why. I know I couldn't seem to cross-compile oskit, it choked on "memcpy" or something, couldn't link it properly. Maybe I was trying to cross-compile oskit-mach an

Re: Wow! I just built oskit in Hurd!

2001-04-17 Thread Roland McGrath
> But it worked! I must say that I am very impressed. Now, if > I had only given it the "--prefix=/" option during configure... You want "--prefix=" (an empty prefix). For the kernel itself, it really doesn't matter if you configure it or just do "make install prefix=". For oskit, it writes direc

Re: Wow! I just built oskit in Hurd!

2001-04-17 Thread Igor Khavkine
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:05:09AM -0400, B. Douglas Hilton wrote: > ... and the smp sample kernel booted! > > It took a grueling 75 minutes, wherein my spiffy UW SCSI > hard drive made incessant grinding crunchy noises the likes > of which I haven't heard since about 1990 with a ST225 MFM > drive

Re: Woody release?

2001-04-17 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 06:36:41PM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote: > Size may be more of an issue under the Hurd as well, for linux will are > aiming to get the kernel and core components onto 1 floppy. uClibc helps > a lot under linux, it saves a few hunder kB compared to glibc. I haven't paid atten

Wow! I just built oskit in Hurd!

2001-04-17 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
... and the smp sample kernel booted! It took a grueling 75 minutes, wherein my spiffy UW SCSI hard drive made incessant grinding crunchy noises the likes of which I haven't heard since about 1990 with a ST225 MFM drive! ( I can build oskit natively for Linux in < 10 mins ) But it worked! I must

Re: Woody release?

2001-04-17 Thread Glenn McGrath
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Using a Hurd ramdisk for the installation. (Nice, but not vital) > > That involves porting the new Debian installer to get done properly, and > probably CD boot support in Grub? > As far as the new debian installer is concerned, ive been working on implementing some

Re: Woody release?

2001-04-17 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 05:49:05AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > > I don't agree. The packages in stable are out of date by policy, > > not coordination effort. Testing deals with most release > > problems, since it's always a snapshot of the packages that are > > current. I want to get us int

Re: Woody release?

2001-04-17 Thread Philip Charles
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Jeff Bailey wrote: > > > I'm worried that the next release after woody will be 3 or 4 years > from now. > > Trying to coordinate too many archs. What about pushing for an indepenent > > release cycle? Debian is like a dancing centipede with seventy broken > > legs. To add