binutils, libtime-hires-perl

2001-04-27 Thread Jeff Bailey
Marcus and everyone: Based on two runs now, the new Hurd package doesn't seem to do that progressively-slower until it grinds to a halt thing anymore. I'll test more over the weekend as I try to push more packages through. binutils triggered the fork failure again. libtime-hires-perl compiles f

Re: Where can I get Hurd CD-ROMs?

2001-04-27 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 02:44:41AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > Are there any vendors in North America prepared to sell the CDs? I > am a long way away from the Americas and Europe. What's involved in selling the CDs? I could do this through my company if you just need someone to sell these.

Re: Where can I get Hurd CD-ROMs?

2001-04-27 Thread Philip Charles
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Farid Hajji wrote: > I got the E1 series from bitbone.de quite quickly. They didn't update > their site since then, but you could explicitely ask them by mailing > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm waiting for Phil to mkisofs the F2 series and > will order them as well, probably again

Re: Hurd F1 ISO and booting

2001-04-27 Thread Philip Charles
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Farid Hajji wrote: > Ahemm... while we're at it: if you're booting from the F1 ISO, it > may well be, that you're first booting Linux, not gnumach. At least, > that was the way, Phil did realize the E1-series I'm using here. That > probably stuck in F1 as well. Are you sure th

Re: Package Hierarchy (was Re: hurd F2 CDs)

2001-04-27 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Ian Duggan wrote: > That's a thought. Is there available, or does there exist an easy way to > generate the dependency tree for Debian packages? > > It might be useful as a guide for determining the order in which to > attack package building. I can prepare a list of those p

Re: Where can I get Hurd CD-ROMs?

2001-04-27 Thread Farid Hajji
> > Therefore I'd like to ask if anyone on the list has a spare set of > > current Hurd CD-ROMs that s/he could send me. I'm of course willing to > > refund your expenses. I live in Germany, near Cologne. > > There are two Hurd CD vendors listed in the vendors page at > www.debian.org, one of wh

Re: Hurd F1 ISO and booting

2001-04-27 Thread Farid Hajji
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in a state of fury: > > Anyway, this fucking kernel still stops/halts just after the fdc gets > > recognized. I already had taken off almost all cards I have in my system, > > but no change. Is there anything I should know of, where gnumach does > > NOT run on? Else, think a

Package Hierarchy (was Re: hurd F2 CDs)

2001-04-27 Thread Ian Duggan
> > IIRC, exim has all the fixes necessary in the BTS to make it run, so > > with any luck you'll have both exim and sendmail by the end of the > > weekend. > > > That is great, quite a lot depends on it. Thanks. That's a thought. Is there available, or does there exist an easy way to generate t

Re: Hurd F1 ISO and booting

2001-04-27 Thread Henning Riedel
"Ian Duggan" wrote >...What hardware are you trying to boot with, and > how are you going about trying to build the system. The installation > procedure is still primitive, and requires developer level knowledge of > a few things. At the minimum, you should be familiar with how > bootloaders work a

Re: Hurd F1 ISO and booting

2001-04-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I intend to add a gnumach-lean to the gnumach package. This will increase > its size by about 200kB. Is this acceptable, or do you favour a split up > into a seperate binary package? I have a preference for using a different package, but it's not a t

Re: Where can I get Hurd CD-ROMs?

2001-04-27 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Johannes Rohr wrote: > I'd like to try out Debian GNU/Hurd once again to see what has changed since > one year ago. Unfortunately I only have a 33.6 modem so I cannot even > think of downloading ~1 gig of ISO images. > > Therefore I'd like to ask if anyone on the list has a

Re: Hurd F1 ISO and booting

2001-04-27 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:52:21PM +0200, Henning Riedel wrote: > I still try to get the kernel up and running but nobody actually seems > to realize, that a really lean kernel should be made just for installing, > so that all should be able to boot that piece of shit. An accurate description of t

Re:Hurd F1 ISO and booting --> to Neal

2001-04-27 Thread Henning Riedel
Henning you are the real sucker, you missed the first rule: Don't panic! Ok, this will be my apologies to Neal: I've crashed my whole Linux-Part on my system while trying to install the Hurd today from that new Hurd-F1. There is some trouble here, and I think it was the wrong time, to write a pos

Re: hurd F2 CDs

2001-04-27 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Jeff Bailey wrote: > Which makes ae an unlikely candidate. I don't think this is a show > stopper, since the old one works fine. The ae in the tarball works so we are OK. > IIRC, exim has all the fixes necessary in the BTS to make it run, so > with any luck you'll have bot

Re: Hurd F1 ISO and booting

2001-04-27 Thread Ian Duggan
> This fucking Hurd still sucks! Bees with honey. > I still try to get the kernel up and running but nobody actually seems > to realize, that a really lean kernel should be made just for installing, > so that all should be able to boot that piece of shit. That's not the first > mail I send about

Hurd F1 ISO and booting

2001-04-27 Thread Henning Riedel
This fucking Hurd still sucks! I still try to get the kernel up and running but nobody actually seems to realize, that a really lean kernel should be made just for installing, so that all should be able to boot that piece of shit. That's not the first mail I send about booting problems, but nobody

Re: Where can I get Hurd CD-ROMs?

2001-04-27 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
On Friday 27 April 2001 20:10, Johannes Rohr wrote: > Dear all, Moin, moin! > > I'd like to try out Debian GNU/Hurd once again to see what has changed since > one year ago. Unfortunately I only have a 33.6 modem so I cannot even > think of downloading ~1 gig of ISO images. > > Therefore I'd like

Where can I get Hurd CD-ROMs?

2001-04-27 Thread Johannes Rohr
Dear all, I'd like to try out Debian GNU/Hurd once again to see what has changed since one year ago. Unfortunately I only have a 33.6 modem so I cannot even think of downloading ~1 gig of ISO images. Therefore I'd like to ask if anyone on the list has a spare set of current Hurd CD-ROMs that s/he

Re: hurd F2 CDs

2001-04-27 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 02:15:20PM +, Philip Charles wrote: > Three questions. Is it likely that ae and exim will be fixed and in the > main archive by then? I've been mostly catching up on older stuff to build. Basically, I haven't found anything documenting the "Corrent" way to do shared

hurd F2 CDs

2001-04-27 Thread Philip Charles
I have started the preliminary work on the F2 CDs and they will not have any non-free. This has meant that the size of the Hurd sub mirror is now 1.3 GIG, just over two CDs once the boot-disks are included. I hope to freeze the Hurd sub-mirror in about five days and produce the images about two t

Re: Cross Compile Success!

2001-04-27 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 08:55:52AM +0100, dog wrote: > > > perhaps; the debs still reference console-utilities, and there is no hurd > > > package providing console-utilities. > > > > What do you mean by reference? Please be as specific about the details as > > you can. > > console-common recomm

Re: Cross Compile Success!

2001-04-27 Thread dog
quoth Marcus Brinkmann: > > perhaps; the debs still reference console-utilities, and there is no hurd > > package providing console-utilities. > > What do you mean by reference? Please be as specific about the details as > you can. console-common recommends console-utilities; console-data recomm