Re: gnu-20011016.tar.gz available

2001-10-18 Thread Roland McGrath
I'd hoped this thread would disappear or at least be properly separated from the original (unrelated) question about serverboot. If people want to ask about diskless booting, please start a thread on that subject. (I think I have already thought about all the relevant details.)

Re: gnu-20011016.tar.gz available

2001-10-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Neal H Walfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, what you are dealing with is a the chicken and egg type problem. > If a root device is a network store, the server will need to open a > network connection using socket () (or another similar function which > accesses pfinet). The implementation

Re: German translation of the FAQ

2001-10-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 11:48:48PM +0200, hriedel wrote: > I think, only in section 1.2 should something be written > about the pronunciation, and you should eventually add > some note, that in German, we do _not_ say "the HURD" but > just "HURD". > Something alike: > In German we say: "HURD nut

RE: German translation of the FAQ

2001-10-18 Thread hriedel
Thanks for taking over again. As I shortly read over it, I think,you did a good work. As Marcus said, just take most of these "the" away. I think, only in section 1.2 should something be written about the pronunciation, and you should eventually add some note, that in German, we do _not_ say "t

Re: gnu-20011016.tar.gz available

2001-10-18 Thread Neal H Walfield
> I was referring to network devices or nfs. ... as the backing store for the root file system.

Re: gnu-20011016.tar.gz available

2001-10-18 Thread Neal H Walfield
> Well, I don't think you would need or use pfinet to boot from a networked > storage, although I am also not clear on exactly what it would require. You > would probably use a different bootstrapping filesystem than ext2fs, but > even this can be loaded over the net with GRUB (which is what I mea

Re: German translation of the FAQ

2001-10-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 05:55:11PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > FYI, The HURD is translated as « Le HURD » in french. So, that's masculin > for us. Even if I don't know why. It may be easier to pronouce. I don't speak french, so I can't comment on that. I guess a whole country of native speaker

Re: German translation of the FAQ

2001-10-18 Thread Martin Quinson
FYI, The HURD is translated as « Le HURD » in french. So, that's masculin for us. Even if I don't know why. It may be easier to pronouce. On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 09:38:24PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > I never use an article with Hurd in German, it just sounds awkward, and it > is not apparant

Re: New core packages: gnumach, hurd and oskit

2001-10-18 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 03:18:00PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > Well, I don't think that the approach of building the tar file from the > files on CD is the wrong one, quite the opposite. The tar file is just for > people who don't feel like using the CD images. Or, in my case, I use the tar

Re: New core packages: gnumach, hurd and oskit

2001-10-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 10:59:30PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > In my archive. I am assuming that this has all the features of > > > hurd_20011013-1, right? > > > > Yes, and some bug fixes. Read my mail about the new tar file. > > > I have

Re: oskit-mach dodgeyness and package compilation

2001-10-18 Thread Bob Ham
> Note that you really need the very latest oskit binary package. > If you used that and it didn't work, we certainly want to find out why but > if you don't have the time to debug it than we have to wait until someone > can reproduce it who has time :) I downloaded the most recent oskit package (

Re: New core packages: gnumach, hurd and oskit

2001-10-18 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > In my archive. I am assuming that this has all the features of > > hurd_20011013-1, right? > > Yes, and some bug fixes. Read my mail about the new tar file. > I have downloaded it, pulled it to bits and built one for the CDs. I hope to test it t

pptop [was Re: Various bugs]

2001-10-18 Thread Paul . Emsley
Just in case James was being a bit obscure: > From bug-hurd " " == Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthew Wilcox writes: > > [This reply just addresses a few of the points in the original. Bugs > noted, however!] > > > * tcsh/csh, whereis & top ar

Re: gnu-20011016.tar.gz available

2001-10-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 10:46:59AM +0200, Neal H Walfield wrote: > > The Hurd is booted directly, and there is no middle man who is restricting > > us from doing more clever stuff, like booting the Hurd from the net etc. > > Except for pfinet, which cannot be used until after the root > filesystem

Re: gnu-20011016.tar.gz available

2001-10-18 Thread Neal H Walfield
> The Hurd is booted directly, and there is no middle man who is restricting > us from doing more clever stuff, like booting the Hurd from the net etc. Except for pfinet, which cannot be used until after the root filesystem is setup.

Re: gnu-20011016.tar.gz available

2001-10-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 12:03:44PM +0100, Paul Emsley wrote: > > I'd be happy if someone could explain to ignorant me what > serverboot did and why getting rid of it is a good thing. I don't have the time to go into the details (it was discussed on bug-hurd@gnu.org), but basically,

Re: serverboot

2001-10-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 07:33:04PM -0700, James Morrison wrote: > > I'm also curios of this. If I place > /dev/hd0s2 $(add-linux-paging-file) > > as a module from grub will /dev/hd0s2 act as my default pager as it > does now with serverboot.gz and servers.boot. No. It was serverboot acting

Re: oskit-mach dodgeyness and package compilation

2001-10-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 02:49:59AM +0100, Bob Ham wrote: > First problem was mig needing i386-gnu-gcc, so a link in /bin now points > that to gcc. This implies that the mig package was cross-compiled; > is this the case? Shouldn't it not be? An embarrassing bug on my part. A new package should

Re: New core packages: gnumach, hurd and oskit

2001-10-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 01:00:53PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > I updated the binaries of oskit, GNU Mach and the Hurd yesterday: > > > > gnumach_20011013-1_hurd-i386.changes INSTALLED > > hurd_20011013-1_hurd-i386.changes INSTALLED > > oskit_0

Re: oskit-mach dodgeyness and package compilation

2001-10-18 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 02:49:59AM +0100, Bob Ham wrote: > I got a fresh oskit-mach out of CVS and compiled. > > First problem was mig needing i386-gnu-gcc, so a link in /bin now points > that to gcc. This implies that the mig package was cross-compiled; > is this the case? Shouldn't it not be?