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2002-01-25 Thread webmaster
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Reconfiguring Mach

2002-01-25 Thread Josh Hansen
I just recently got my Hurd setup semi-working (I can log in, in other words). I believe I need to recompile GnuMach for network card support and IDE disk controller support. My network card is tulip-based, and the disk controller is CMD649 (close and possibly ??? compatible relative of the CMD6

Re: ABI change. Was Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 01:30:49PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > Don't worry, we have not really started yet. The glibc had some bugs, and > > I am not sure we have sorted them out by now. We will make announcements > > here what is going to h

Re: ABI change. Was Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Jeff Bailey wrote: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:49:48PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > > > It will probably take me about 10 days to get the *hurd-i386.deb's > > when it does happen. > > Ouch. When you get to this point, would it be useful if you had a > remote machine to w

Re: ABI change. Was Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > Don't worry, we have not really started yet. The glibc had some bugs, and > I am not sure we have sorted them out by now. We will make announcements > here what is going to happen early enough, and if we are talking about days, > you can always ste

Re: ABI change. Was Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Philip Charles
I found this. I hope people find this informative, if it is correct and relevant. I have now discovered how to use dict. Phil. 1 definition found >From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (13 Mar 01) [foldoc]: Application Binary Interface (ABI) The interface by which an {applic

Where will standard IPC be found?

2002-01-25 Thread Timothy Rue
In porting the Hurd to other Microkernels I wonder where it puts the use of IPC. I see IPC is pretty heavy in use in Mach but hardley mentioned in L4 and I do understand IPC is important in the Hurd. IS there going to be a standard within the Hurd that allows an application programmer to add an en

Re: Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 09:11:58AM -0800, Jeff Bailey wrote: > > The best time to change the names will be when the architecture > > handling is reworked (if it will ever happen). > > Hmm.. What would it take to overcome inertia on this? I have absolutely no idea. > Since we're > likely to be t

Re: Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:01:19PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Since we're on the topic, please let us know what the best way to > > do this is. We're essentially re-creating the hurd-i386 arch - > > The new .debs will be binary incompatible with the old ones. > At one occasion the old tr

Re: Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 08:53:53AM -0800, Jeff Bailey wrote: > Since we're on the topic, please let us know what the best way to do > this is. We're essentially re-creating the hurd-i386 arch - The new > .debs will be binary incompatible with the old ones. At one occasion the old tree was delete

Re: Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:24:46PM +, James Troup wrote: > Jeff Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > We will be manually rebuilding [0] every package that is currently > > in the Hurd archive and probably uploading in one pass. > > If you try that (or even threaten to), I will personally

Re: Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:24:46PM +, James Troup wrote: > > We will be manually rebuilding [0] every package that is currently > > in the Hurd archive and probably uploading in one pass. > > If you try that (or even threaten to), I will personally take great > pleasure in ensuring *hurd-i386

Re: Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread James Troup
Jeff Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We will be manually rebuilding [0] every package that is currently > in the Hurd archive and probably uploading in one pass. If you try that (or even threaten to), I will personally take great pleasure in ensuring *hurd-i386* is auto-deleted from incoming

Re: ABI change. Was Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:49:48PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > When is this likely to happen? I am preparing for the H3 CD set at the > moment and hope to have it ready in about 5 -10 days. I don't want to be > caught in the middle of the change. > > It will probably take me about 10 days to g

Re: ABI change. Was Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:49:48PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > > I've got an autobuilder here that is turned off while we prepare to do > > an ABI change. When that is complete, package building will resume. > > When is this likely to happen? I am preparing for the H3 CD set at the > moment

Re: Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:31:08AM -0800, Jeff Bailey wrote: > I don't know how dreppers announcement > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-hacker/2002-01/msg00040.html will > affect the pthreads folks either. It doesn't seem like waiting for > them before we start is a good idea. I think it is a g

Re: Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 11:41:56PM -0600, Adam Majer wrote: > > > Is there a need for a Hurd autobuilder? I noticed that there are a > > > great deal of packages out of date for Hurd > > > > I've got an autobuilder here that is turned off while we prepare to do > > an ABI change. When that i

Re: Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 09:45:23AM +0100, Oystein Viggen wrote: > > I've got an autobuilder here that is turned off while we prepare > > to do an ABI change. > Does this also mean that pthreads support is close to ready? This change is only planned to be Libio and Gcc(g++)-3. Marcus and Jeroen

Re: Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Oystein Viggen
* [Jeff Bailey] > I've got an autobuilder here that is turned off while we prepare to do > an ABI change. Does this also mean that pthreads support is close to ready? Oystein -- When in doubt: Think again.

Re: ABI change. Was Autobuilder needed?

2002-01-25 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 05:49, Philip Charles wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Jeff Bailey wrote: > > > I've got an autobuilder here that is turned off while we prepare to do > > an ABI change. When that is complete, package building will resume. > > When is this likely to happen? Good question. Gl

Re: G1, H1 or H2?

2002-01-25 Thread Moritz Schulte
Gerhard Muntingh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 64MB should work fine, if you don't try too much crazy things. ... and if you have enough swap enabled. moritz -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://duesseldorf.ccc.de/~moritz/ GPG fingerprint = 3A14 3923 15BE FD57 FC06 B501 0841 2D7B 6F98