Hello everybody!
I'm getting back to the Hurd and have, at least, started using it
on my gateway machine at home. I've so far had no problems, of course,
but I have a small issue that bugs me a bit.
In Linux there is the kernel parameters to decide what ethernet card
gets to be eth0 and any
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 03:59:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
As much as I appreciate some aspects of the Hurd's design, I must
say I never really saw the point of having a microkernel if it
doesn't allow you to implement drivers as services.
What makes you think we don't allow this?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 03:59:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
As much as I appreciate some aspects of the Hurd's design, I must say I
never really saw the point of having a microkernel if it doesn't allow
you to implement drivers as services.
That the device drivers are part of GNU Mach is
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Jeff Bailey wrote:
1) I don't see a question here. (Or at least, there's nothing that
ends with a question mark.)
It helps to read the original message:
| My setup is two ISA cards, one 3c509 and one NE2000. In Linux the
| 3c509 automatically (without any specific
1) I don't see a question here. (Or at least, there's nothing that
ends with a question mark.)
Then I don't think you're looking in the right places.
2) I did point out to him that his assumptions were wrong. A couple
have now pointed out that drivers are possible in userspace, and even
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 05:38:23PM +0200, Philip Dodd wrote:
What are you looking for?
Answers, I should think.
Perhaps you should reask the question then. Consider that if many of
us answered the email and failed to answer the question, that the
problem is in the asking.
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What are you looking for?
Answers, I should think.
Perhaps you should reask the question then. Consider that if many of
us answered the email and failed to answer the question, that the
problem is in the asking.
Please re-read the thread and re-think your position on where the
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 08:32:42AM -0700, Jeff Bailey wrote:
1) I don't see a question here. (Or at least, there's nothing that
ends with a question mark.)
You're looking at Emile's post, which was an off-topic response to
Joachim's question (which is not in the quotes you posted). I suspect
No offence meant, Jeff. Apologies but the original message had been
lost in the thread. Here's the original post:
Hello everybody!
I'm getting back to the Hurd and have, at least, started using it
on my gateway machine at home. I've so far had no problems, of course,
but I have a small issue
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 11:54:01PM +0800, Robert Marlow wrote:
My setup is two ISA cards, one 3c509 and one NE2000. In Linux the
3c509 automatically (without any specific kernel parameters) gets to
be eth0 (@irq 9) and the NE2000 is my eth1 (@irq 5). In GNUmach it's
the reversed, what
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
[SNIP]
OSKit provides a framework for having drivers in user space. I
think you just need to implement a few library calls to make it happen.
GNU Mach provides a framework for having drivers in user space. You can get
interrupts delivered as
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 05:45:57PM +0200, Philip Dodd wrote:
What are you looking for?
Answers, I should think.
Perhaps you should reask the question then. Consider that if many of
us answered the email and failed to answer the question, that the
problem is in the asking.
I think the problem is that nobody knows the answer to the question.
And they're too lazy to look!
The probes of net devices are all done in linux/dev/drivers/net/Space.c,
where the order of the drivers in the ethif_probe determines the order in
which they are set up and assigned ethN names.
Hello again!
The last mail I sent rendered a completely different discussion
than I initially intended. But all the talk about user space
drivers and such actually made me start thinking.
Is there currently any roadmap for the Hurd available?
If I try to clearify, I mean a general overview,
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 05:55:19PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
I am, but it's been a while since I studied anything Hurd-related, so it
may take a while for me to get actually started.
We are not in a hurry.
Just theoretically, it seems an approach could be to create a wrapper
that allows
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 01:47:57PM -0400, Roland McGrath wrote:
I think the problem is that nobody knows the answer to the question.
And they're too lazy to look!
I tried, but the tree was a bit too big to get to know
all that quickly in a couple of days.
The probes of net devices are all
Package: ftp.debian.org
Please wipe out all hurd-i386 packages so we can make our ABI switch.
Tks,
Jeff Bailey
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In consultation with Marcus, I have now formally requested that the
Debian `hurd-i386' binaries be wiped so that we can begin uploading.
We will be working with the release manager to make sure that we're
uploading the new packages at a rate that's comfortable for the
mirrors. We have just over
Nice job Jeff!
Derek
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In consultation with Marcus, I have now formally requested that the
Debian `hurd-i386' binaries be wiped so that we can begin uploading.
Doh! I didn't mean to wide reply...
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Jeff Bailey wrote:
In consultation with Marcus, I have now formally requested that the
Debian `hurd-i386' binaries be wiped so that we can begin uploading.
We will be working with the release manager to make sure that we're
uploading the new packages at a rate that's
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Derek L Davies wrote:
Doh! I didn't mean to wide reply...
=) It gives me a chance to single out Marcus and say that any thanks
directed at me need to be equally directed to him.
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