On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 06:02:37PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 04:18:57PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> > I’ve volunteered to help out earlier in the thread, within constraints
> > (but rather that than to see things go and break).
>
> The main problem with sysvinit is
On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Note, I can with authority, as the person introducing dependency based
> boot and shutdown ordering in Debian, report that insserv were not
> introduced for parallell boot, nor for boot speed. It was introduced to
> correct broken boot and shutdow
Adam Borowski, le lun. 15 oct. 2018 18:02:37 +0200, a ecrit:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 04:18:57PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> > Matthew Vernon wrote:
> > >interest/effort in getting sysvinit (and related bits) in a better state
> > >for buster, do drop me a line.
> >
> > I’ve volunteered to he
Martin Steigerwald - 15.10.18, 17:56:
> Anyway, I will make Devuan people aware of this discussion. Let's see
> whether someone likes to cooperate.
As Evilham also pointed out, Devuan people are aware of this discussion
already:
[devuan-dev] sysvinit in debian is under threat of being dropped fo
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 04:18:57PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> Matthew Vernon wrote:
>
> >I'm aware of some work ongoing at the moment to try and improve matters
> >(currently looking at elongind, for example). If anyone's got some
>
> What’s elongind? elogind? Never heard of it…
elogind is
Svante Signell, le lun. 15 oct. 2018 17:49:23 +0200, a ecrit:
> On Mon, 2018-10-15 at 17:06 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > It's a matter of people subscribing to the
> > pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org list and discussing there,
> > I
> > don't see why anything heavier would be needed
On Mon, 2018-10-15 at 17:06 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> It's a matter of people subscribing to the
> pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org list and discussing there,
> I
> don't see why anything heavier would be needed.
I thought alioth was no more, but maybe the mailing list remains?
Evilham, le lun. 15 oct. 2018 16:27:25 +0200, a ecrit:
> Where to now?
> At devuan-dev, Adam Sampson has suggested that the debian-bsd and
> debian-hurd communities are also very interested in keeping non-systemd
> things working,
Yes, but they aren't populated so much either, with already a lot o
Dear debian-devel,
Am 15/10/2018 um 15:20 schrieb Jonathan Dowland:
> [ re-adding TG who requested CCs in an earlier message, but has not
> set Mail-Followup-To:. You've probably missed half the conversation,
> Thorsten… ]
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 06:56:50AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>
On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> [ re-adding TG who requested CCs in an earlier message, but has not
> set Mail-Followup-To:. You've probably missed half the conversation,
> Thorsten… ]
Thanks… will follow up on those I read up on in the web interface
(why is there no NNTP interface
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 02:20:03PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> Is it worth interested parties reaching out to the Devuan project
> regarding person-power for sysvinit maintenance?
It's hard to discuss this with a straight face, but in any case even they
admit they don't have any person-power:
[ re-adding TG who requested CCs in an earlier message, but has not
set Mail-Followup-To:. You've probably missed half the conversation,
Thorsten… ]
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 06:56:50AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
I believe Andreas Henriksson is right, the packages are going to be
removed un
Holger Levsen writes:
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 06:01:43AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>> > Has policy changed regarding support for multiple inits, or is it just that
>> > no one is maintaining the shim and sysvinit-core?
>>
>> The latter. systemd-shim has been orphaned for over 2 years, and h
Sad to read Debian is walking to be single init software, unlike other
more open distros. This is not "The universal operating system" direction.
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