On Mon, 2002-08-05 at 22:14, Catalin wrote:
>
> From what I see it is planned to stop developing the mach mircokernel
> and use L4 instead.
> Why are you still asting your time with mach???
Precisely where did you see *any* of the Hurd developers say that
development of Mach or the Hurd for Mach
On Sun, 2002-08-04 at 05:17, Andrew Mitchell wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 02:02:55PM +1200, Philip Charles wrote:
> > The upload to ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/hurd
> > is now completed and the images are now propagating around the other
> > sites.
>
> Small correction:
On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 11:15, PUYDT Julien wrote:
> So now I need to learn how to debug a program under the hurd... Any
> advice?
>
There are several discussions of using gdb with the Hurd in the
archives. Here is one:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2000/debian-hurd-22/msg00191.html
On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 11:28, Jesse Wang wrote:
> I'm a Chinese newcomer in GNU.
Welcome.
> I've been with Redhat Linux for several months.Because of integrated
> chips,I spend much time looking for and installing variable drivers
> for CMI8738 sound chips and PCTEL Micro modem chips.It's really
Hi,
Those with a long memory will know that that this has been been
considered for a while, just ask Rick and Thomas (whover he may be) ;^)
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=40l8od%24ia9%40news4.digex.net&rnum=7&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Drick%2Bniles%2Bgroup:gnu.misc.*%26hl%3Den%26lr%3
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 22:09, Johannes Rohr wrote:
>
> The compiler complains about a parse error before "{" in the included
> file "adstring.h" (from the same dir) in line 26:
> class String:public string{
>
If Daniel's message was not sufficient, then I suggest that you follow
the advice of James
On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 01:19, Wolfgang Jährling wrote:
> How about having a slogan on the shirts? Maybe one of the following?
>
> The GNU Hurd - be a part of it!
> The GNU Hurd - login and get stoned!
> The GNU Hurd - because Un*x has been obsolete for so many years now
>
The GNU Hurd - becaus
Just in case James was being a bit obscure:
> From bug-hurd " " == Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Matthew Wilcox writes:
>
> [This reply just addresses a few of the points in the original. Bugs
> noted, however!]
>
> > * tcsh/csh, whereis & top ar
I'd be happy if someone could explain to ignorant me what
serverboot did and why getting rid of it is a good thing.
Thanks,
Paul.
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As you may already know, or not care, Debian GNU/Hurd gets a
mention on slashdot:
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/10/15/2357255.shtml
Jeff and others have been defending the flag...
Hi,
I mailed about this a few weeks before and didn't find
resolution (but thanks to Mark nevertheless).
AFAICT, getch() in ncurses is broken. The program test-q
attached should exit when 'q' is pressed. On GNU/Linux, it does
so. On GNU/Hurd it does not
> "MP" == Mark Paulus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MP> When you say, "exits (as I expect)", what exactly do you mean
MP> by that statement?
I meant that exit(0) gets executed.
MP> Does it not quit?
No (not on GNU/Hurd).
MP> Is the terminal messed up?
Hi,
I will toying with ncurses and found this strange behaviour:
On GNU/Linux, the program exits (as I expect) when "q" is pressed.
On GNU/Hurd, it does not.
[I compiled also for SGI IRIX (using curses) and the program
does exit, but also logs me out(
> "DKT" == David K Trudgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DKT> PS I may have been dreaming, but I'm pretty sure I read
DKT> messages on this list some time ago that implied that "Debian
DKT> GNU/Hurd" had already been decided on as the official
DKT> name. Maybe it was just someon
Lars Roland has a go at JFS a while ago[1]. Not sure how far
he got.
Paul.
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2000/debian-hurd-26/msg00012.html
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> "MB" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MB> It's the [system] which can run several operating systems in parallel.
You mean like Mach?
;^)
Anyway, sounds ideal for a Hurd multicomputer.
When can we get one?
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> "MB" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MB> We have no local sound support yet.
Just out of interest, what's needed? (I mean to get something
like linux has (rather than the Hurd "smarts" you were
discussing earlier)). I presume that using oskit-mach wou
> "tp" == thomas poindessous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
tp> Hi, I tried to rebuild gkrellm. It depends of libgtop-dev. I
tp> got an error while rebuilding libgtop because it can't find
tp> /usr/share/libtool/ltconfig (the debian/rules file create a
tp> symlink). I can't find l
> "Robbe" == Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Robbe> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> printjob.o(.text+0x34ad): undefined reference to
>> `__errno_location'
Robbe> #define errno (*__hurd_errno_location ())
Robbe> Not '__errno_location'.
Robbe> Seems like som
Hi,
Following Marcus' message[1], I thought I'd have a look at lpr.
dh_testdir
pmake CFLAGS="-O2" CPPFLAGS="-D_BSD_SOURCE"
all ===> lpc
all ===> lpd
cc -o lpd lpd.o printjob.o recvjob.o displayq.o rmjob.o
startdaemon.o lpdchar.o common.o key.o modes.o getcap.o
printjob.o
> "Yoginder" == Yoginder Handoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Yoginder> I recently downloaded the hurd files and had problems
Yoginder> getting the hurd to configure correctly. I want to
Yoginder> compile the hurd os on my linux machine, could you
Yoginder> please help me out
Phil,
I presume that you fixed the hostname problem by creating a
name in /etc/hostname.
To fix the name lookup add a host entry to /etc/hosts for
your hostname, e.g:
$ cat /etc/hostname
bob
$ cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1 bob localhost
> "TL" == Thierry Laronde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
TL> Hello, After coming back from the Debian Conference --- where
TL> we heard Marcus about the HURD ---,
Lucky fellow. I would like to have gone.
http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~ateras/travel/debian_conference/au
>>>>> "MB" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MB> On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 04:24:29AM +0100, Paul Emsley wrote:
>> I took a look at this list and it seems to me that about 80% of
>> the "fail"s are the MAXPATHLEN,
base-files provides /etc/profile
/etc/profiles sets the default $PATH.
The default $PATH contains /usr path elements.
Would it be a good idea to remove the redundant /usr parts of the
path elements?
Paul.
> "MV" == Matthew Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MV> Jeff Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Any package that says "failed" needs someone to look at it.
>> There are a number of packages that should only be compiled
>> under linux. There are packages that have bad debia
>>>>> " " == Glenn Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Friday 29 June 2001 02:16, Paul Emsley wrote:
>> Actually, it was very easy, I changed __linux__ to __GNU__ in
>> mcookie.c and typed make. Tada! (I think also that prngd
> "MB" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MB> Can you please try to port [mcookie]?
Actually, it was very easy, I changed __linux__ to __GNU__ in
mcookie.c and typed make. Tada! (I think also that prngd
should be used as one of the RNG, but I didn't in
> "OV" == Oystein Viggen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
OV> Normally, I would use ssh X forwarding for this, but ssh (both
OV> server and client) seems ATM to be most useful for crashing
OV> pfinet. Obviously this is not always a desirable property of
OV> the program.
I
Hi,
It would be convenient for me to be able to display X
applications from my GNU/Linux box on my GNU/Hurd X
server. However, I am not even able to get xclock working
remotely.
Has anyone has success with this?
I used "xhost +" on the X server machin
> "MB" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MB> Yes, that's fine.
MB> If apt doesn't work, you have to go to
MB> http://http.us.debian.org/pool/g/guile and fetch the most
MB> recent dsc, orig.tar.gz and diff.gz (if any) manually. Then
MB> you can do
MB> dp
> "kbd" == karim ben djedidia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
kbd> Hi,
Hi,
kbd> I've just installed hurd-i386 and ok it works, great ! but -
kbd> where is the doc (if any) ???
do you know about hurddocs.sourceforge.net?
kbd> I just see some stuff about mach, a
> "Roland" == Roland McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Roland> The really interesting question to me is why it worked
Roland> some of the time and not the rest of the time. But you
Roland> might not be as interested in that as I am.
I would like to add that I had seen
> Some people seem to get this, although apt-get works great for me.
> That seens to be another bug.
FYI I compiled apt-get for deugging. The result is appended.
I couldn't sort it out, but if I were to guess, I would guess
that the pkgSrcRecords constructor is producing
Hi,
Yes, the process appears to wait for something, yes the
keyboard entries are echoed. No, I can't interupt it with ^C or
suspend it either.
Re: getting the source:
How do I do that the proper way? I tried:
$ apt-get source guile
Reading
> "MB" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MB> On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 05:02:07PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V
MB> wrote:
MB> [Insert a pointer to the existing pthreads efforts here,
MB> which I don't have. hurd.sf.net?]
http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd-0102/msg00
> "PC" == Philip Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
PC> .. it would help Marcus in his "The Hurd should be recognised"
PC> campaign.
Are you having a little joke here or does this exist and I
don't know about it? (And do you mean wrt Debian developers or
a more w
>>>>> "Niels" == Niels Möller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Niels> Paul Emsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Niels> What is the current legal status of scsh?
BSD-style.
Niels> Last time I looked, both scheme48 and scsh used t
> "RMcG" == Roland McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
RMcG> There is similar code in Emacs. Look at the s-gnu.h file in
RMcG> the Emacs sources and and what it does for this. Make sure
RMcG> to conditionalize properly on _STDIO_USES_IOSTREAM, since
RMcG> the iolib definitio
"Towards a New Strategy of OS Design" was written by Trent Fisher
or Thomas Bushnell?
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> "Craig" == Craig Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Craig> Hi- Pardon the inane question, but how possible would it be
Craig> to port Hurd to processors like 68328/68EZ328/etc... (yes,
Craig> palm pilots...) ?
Theoretically, yes. Actually the Hurd is designed to be
> "Ezequiel" == Ezequiel Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ezequiel> I concluded that Mach was I wonderful idea to base an
Ezequiel> OS on, despite opinions (like Linus,s saying it was
Ezequiel> idealistic and very slow).
I don't recall him saying that. 10 years ago kern
Hi,
Due to my recently unstably upgraded Debian GNU/Linux being
messed up (problems with libc0.2 giving apt jip (but I won't go
into that here)), I wanted to get dpkg-hurd working on Redhat
Linux (with which I am more familiar).
Therefore I need dpkg
> "KR" == Karsten Rothemund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
KR> But at a certain time I recognized a lot of disk activity (I
KR> think the machine began to swap), the console became slow and
KR> finally I got messages about page faults. Fortunately I was
KR> able to shutdown the m
> "NHW" == Neal H Walfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
"ColdWater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I started programming in C++ almost 4 years ago (under
>> MS-DOS). Most of my experience on it is realted to
>> compression/encryption programs (which I love!). 'cause of that
>
-speach is annotated [].
I also wish Thomas Bushnell good luck in California.
Thanks,
Paul Emsley.]
Welcome codebytes on Dr Dobbs signetcast, I'm Philip Lourier. [snip]
Today's program is about the GNU Hurd, not about a large group
of foul smelling thick skinned animals b
> "AR" == Andreas Rottmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > Are there any tools like top, ps, and stuff for the HURD?
>> =20 There is ps provided by the Hurd package. There are several
>> more tools, check it (dpkg -L hurd) notably vmstat and alike.
>>
AR> Ah, Thanks.
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 09:33:10PM -0500, Lucas C. Wagner wrote:
> > > 3) Hurd -- nowadays -- still relies heavily on the mach microkernel. What
> > > chance does it (Hurd) have to get ported on another one? Is there another
> > > candidate anyway, or this is just a theoretical possibility?
> >
> "Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Marcus> The Hurd is a multiserver OS, and there is no central
Marcus> authority for mounted filesystems. What we could do is to
Marcus> write a database server where filesystems can register
Marcus> themselves if they
> "Matthew" == Matthew Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Matthew, please update the Easy Guide to mention this image
>> instead, as it will solve the serverboot and GRUB ext2fs
>> problems people have encountered.
Matthew> The official version
^^^
Hi,
I untarred the gnu-19991025.tar.gz. All worked smoothly.
Manic grins. Clean unmounts (hooray!)
As a RedHat user I am completely unfamiliar with .debs. Where
can I read about how to install and interrogate them?
I thought I'd add emacs, gcc, vi
http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/czezatke/dtfspapers.html
Who knows how hard it would be to shoe-horn this into HURD?
Paul.
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> "Zack" == Zack Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Zack> Hi, I'm Zack Brown, the author of Kernel Traffic. I've just
Zack> started up a similar newsletter covering debian-hurd. The
Zack> URL is http://www.kt.opensrc.org/KC/debian-hurd
URL> "Debian Hurd is a project to cre
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