#x27;t be done by other people than the usual ever-busy
> developers.
>
> Samuel
Breaking the deafening silence.
I am not in a position to do this, a lack of time and don't have enough
knowledge of the Hurd.
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cial features which
Hurd offers. Say three levels per feature, illustrative, practical,
advanced practical. This needs to in the same directory and the images so
people downloading an image will see it. This should be an effective
promotional tool.
This suggestion was inspired by what I saw
Hi everyone,
Congratulations to everyone involved.
I am proud to have been part of this project.
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e
> packages from debian-ports, and some packages from unstable which are
> not in wheezy.
>
> So how should we call it?
>
> "wheesid" was suggested at some point ;)
>
> Samuel
Astmatic?
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There are now people working on the Debian GNU/Hurd installer and they are
quite capable of taking over.
Over a ten year period I have produced 39 sets of iso images of varying
quality.
Good luck for the future and I am looking forward to the first official
release.
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my HDD so I can remove any
troublesome packages, usually by removing them from Packages.*.
One useful addition config/packages is mc. It can be useful in hunting
down problems in a partially configured system.
Now it is a matter of trial and error.
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sets.
However, I will not be doing any development and will be looking to
simplify the production process.
It will be a least two months before I can start looking at the L2 set.
Let us hope that the Debian installer is successfully ported.
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> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:46:11AM +1200, Philip Charles wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Apr 2010, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez wrote:
> > > I was preparing an up to date Debian GNU/Hurd qemu image. Based on
> > >
try Debian GNU/Hurd through qemu need a system
> newer than k16 image (2007).
>
> Let me know what you think, please.
>
> Thanks very much, in advance.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jose.
>
There is an L1 image at http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian-cd/.
Phil
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Sun 11 Apr 2010 11:55:26 +1300, a écrit :
> > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Patrik Olsson wrote:
> > > Besides, I cannot boot into single-user mode anymore. It freezes on
> > > loading "auth" (
native-install has configured it. You may
have successfully install it.
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Sun 11 Apr 2010 02:05:56 +1300, a écrit :
> > Note that GRUB 0.97 uses (hd1,0) to identify partition 1 on disk 1.
> > Like GRUB 2.
>
> Err, "unlike GRUB 2" you mean?
>
> Samuel
>
Quite r
0.97 uses (hd1,0) to identify partition 1 on disk 1. Like
GRUB 2.
This will be included in future disc sets.
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2010, Patrik Olsson wrote:
>
> How do I fix this? Is it safe to run the script again?
>
> /Patrik
>
Have a go. Let us know what happens.
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e using one of the installation discs then you should
have created a GRUB floppy or grub CD from the images on the disc before
starting the installation. They have the 'magic' in menu.lst to make the
installation easier. You have prompted me to start preparing a GRUB USB
stick.
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years. Would it be appropriate to
> apply to both? (after all, who am I to deny either of them a chance to
> accept my application :-P)
>
> Of course I'd also be interested in any advice you would care to give
> me and I would be glad to answer any question you may have.
>
t.
I have not checked, but I expect that passwd has been fixed.
Thanks for the feedback.
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Tue 20 Oct 2009 00:13:14 +1300, a écrit :
> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > I'm fixing a bug that arises with grub2 and which could also happen
> > > with grub on machines with a
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Guillem Jover wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 14:14:41 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 13:18:23 +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 07:04:15PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > > > The
The iso's have been uploaded to debian-ports and just need to be moved
into place.
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Philip Charles, le Mon 19 Oct 2009 00:23:21 +1300, a écrit :
> > I want to have a break from the Hurd iso's so I am proposing to
> > upload the two images "as is" with some modification of Cook-book.
&g
The DVD, mini iso and tarball are being uploaded to debian-ports.
I would like fedd-back and suggestions please.
At this time the likely eta is 12 hours.
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kages was installed.
I want to have a break from the Hurd iso's so I am proposing to upload the
two images "as is" with some modification of Cook-book. Or would people
prefer to wait two or three weeks when I will have time to polish up the
images.
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Michael Banck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 07:04:15PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > There are ~180 hurd packages duplicated in unreleased and sid.
> >
> > 131 of these are obsolete packages in unreleased, ie the duplicates
>
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Guillem Jover wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 13:18:23 +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 07:04:15PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > > There are ~180 hurd packages duplicated in unreleased and sid.
> > >
Hi,
There are ~180 hurd packages duplicated in unreleased and sid.
131 of these are obsolete packages in unreleased, ie the duplicates in sid
are newer.
I have generated a list of these packages. Anyone want to use it to
remove the offending packags from unreleased?
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to immediately remove the
unreleased package once a replacement has entered sid.
A manual fix is to remove the reference to the package from Packages(.gz)
in unreleased.
The investigation is continuing.
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Thu 15 Oct 2009 10:50:17 +1300, a écrit :
> > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Philip Charles, le Thu 15 Oct 2009 10:00:56 +1300, a écrit :
> > > > The problem is that insserv is
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Thu 15 Oct 2009 10:00:56 +1300, a écrit :
> > The problem is that insserv is not configured before sysv-rc which
> > means that update-rc.d cannot find insserv.
>
> Mmm, I don't understand: there'
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Thu 15 Oct 2009 00:41:33 +1300, a écrit :
> > New problem when configuring initscripts. 'Can't exec "insserv" No
> > such file or directory at /usr/bin/update-rc.d line 387'
> > insser
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Wed 14 Oct 2009 15:29:40 +1300, a écrit :
> > The only available util-linux is in unreleased, 2.14~rc2-0+hurd.1
> > dated 2 Oct 2008.
> >
> > Is there another version hiding somewhere?
>
> It'
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Wed 14 Oct 2009 00:43:56 +1300, a écrit :
> > > Maybe you have the old version (2.14~rc2-0) of the package from
> > > debian-ports? The current unstable version (2.16.1-3) has the
> > > /sbin/fsck
ckages.debian.org/sid/hurd-i386/util-linux/filelist
>
fsck is supposed to be included in e2fsprogs. The installed version is
1.41.9.1 - dated 12 October.
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
> Hello!
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 08:50:58PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Philip Charles, le Mon 12 Oct 2009 23:52:32 +1300, a écrit :
> > > > 1. Does ent
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Tue 13 Oct 2009 20:50:58 +1300, a écrit :
> > > > 2. Configuring the network
> > > > ten days ago "settrans -fgap /servers/socket/2 /hurd/pfinet -i
> > > > eth0 \ -a 192
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Philip Charles, le Mon 12 Oct 2009 23:52:32 +1300, a écrit :
> > I should be able to upload the L1 mini iso to debian-ports in about
> > 24 hours.
>
> Cool!
> Maybe you have noticed that I have uploaded a
not checking the documentation for X11 at this stage.
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On Sat, 03 Oct 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Sat 03 Oct 2009 21:19:12 +1300, a écrit :
> > The Hurd cannot access files toward the end of a DVD.
>
> How far to the end? It may just be the 2GB or 4GB limit.
>
I have egg all over my face! (I made a foo
or baseGNU (Crosshurd lists)
Workout a sensible order for package placement on the iso sets.
AND the things I have forgotten.
I am away all of next week, Monday to Saturday.
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reate Debian GNU/Hurd iso images. However, considerable tuning of the
scripts is needed.
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Any questions?
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db4.7 in archive.
netbase configuration awaiting resolution.
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Sat 26 Sep 2009 12:23:48 +1200, a écrit :
> > We have libdb4.2, 4.3, 4.5, 4.6, 4.8, in the archive, but no 4.7
>
> Rebuilt and uploaded, should be available in next mirror push.
>
> Samuel
>
Great, tha
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:23:48PM +1200, Philip Charles wrote:
> > The debian GNU/Hurd archive is in a mess at the moment.
> >
> > libdb4.7 is missing. apt-utils, libpam-modules, perl et al depend on
> > this package, and ot
The debian GNU/Hurd archive is in a mess at the moment.
libdb4.7 is missing. apt-utils, libpam-modules, perl et al depend on this
package, and other packages in turn depend on these.
We have libdb4.2, 4.3, 4.5, 4.6, 4.8, in the archive, but no 4.7
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> Philip Charles, le Tue 22 Sep 2009 18:00:25 +1200, a écrit :
> > Is the /usr > . symlink still the standard on Debian GNU/Hurd
> > systems?
>
> Nope, it poses too many issues that we can't necessarily fix.
>
> Sam
Is the /usr > . symlink still the standard on Debian GNU/Hurd systems?
Thanks.
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I cannot find a password that will enable me to log into my new Hurd
installation. Installed using crosshurd.
Any ideas?
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Mon 21 Sep 2009 01:36:43 +1200, a écrit :
> > On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Yes, deboostrap seems to be working atm.
> >
> > Playing catchup and making progress. Problem, what is t
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Yes, deboostrap seems to be working atm.
>
> Samuel
>
Hi,
Playing catchup and making progress. Problem, what is the root password
for a new installation.
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009, Michael Banck wrote:
> Philip,
>
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:15:25PM +1200, Philip Charles wrote:
> > Thanks, it is what I have been using (without the newlines). What I
> > have been doing here suggests that crosshurd is not working.
>
> If c
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Sun 20 Sep 2009 21:25:18 +1200, a écrit :
> > Would those who have installed the Hurd from scratch in the last few
> > weeks let me know how they did it.
>
> I usually just use crosshurd.
>
> Samuel
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Philip Charles, le Sun 20 Sep 2009 13:14:33 +1200, a écrit :
> > Are these still the entries for menu.lst for booting the Hurd?
>
> Yes, but avoid newlines between lines, else the \ won't manage to join
> them.
>
> Sa
Hi,
Not wanting to reinvent the wheel.
Would those who have installed the Hurd from scratch in the last few weeks
let me know how they did it.
I am in the process of planning for the L1 and M1 installation discs.
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} \
-T typed ${root} $(task-create) $(task-resume)
module /lib/ld.so.1 /hurd/exec $(exec-task=task-create)
Thanks,
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On Tue, 01 Sep 2009, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:43:07PM +1200, Philip Charles wrote:
> > IIRC, modern Linux gzip can gzip and ungzip Hurd partitions.
> Or do you actually mean tar? I don't think GNU tar can deal with Hurd
>
At this stage the more Hurd enthusiasts that get familiar with
the debian-installer the better, I will be looking at this myself.
Regards.
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that one person can do all that is needed. However, we do
have about five-six of us who have some interest in this project.
Worth looking at.
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller
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is
correct then we can do away with native-install.
Rewrite dbootstrap as as shell script.
1. This would make modifications easier and safer.
2. Dbootstrap could then be ported to GNU/HURD.
Create a disc that boots into Hurd and loads a Hurd initrd.
At this stage consult with the Debian Installer T
, probably using
linux kernel 2.6.x.
Feedback please.
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> > directory on the CD-ROM which.. I can't find anywhere..
Off the root directory of the CD.
Can be downloaded by ftp from www.copyleft.co.nz/grub_0.94
(or ../grub-94.iso if you need a CD)
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I emailed Aurelien earlier today asking him to move the K16 imamages from
incoming to the right place.
It may be I asked the wrong person. If the the right person reads this
list would they please do the moving.
Thanks.
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re is it does not work on the Hurd, so larger
discs are better for users.
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> On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 12:00:19AM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
>
> > This was the toughest set I have had to produce. It has taken me
> > about 150 hours to get to this point. The job is far too big for one
>
person.
The two DVDs I am uploading have all the packages. The four
CDs have most of these.
In total there are four DVDs and 17 CDs.
If people want statistics I will get onto them in a few days.
Enjoy.
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that does not work and the size of Debian GNU/Hurd,
then access to a DVD becomes important.
Any ideas?
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Sorry folks. Ran out of time. With luck K15 (or should it be K16?) will
be ready towards the end of next week.
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llowed to
> upload to this archive. Please contact me if it is not the case.
>
> The machine also runs the wanna-build database [6] for those
> architectures, and collects the build logs [7].
Thanks for this. I adjusted my scripts and can upload and download
successfully.
Phil.
.
>
> "start /hurd/ext2fs.static: ext2fs: device:hd0s1: panic:
> disk_cache_init: Block size 1024 != vm_page_size 4096".
That is the same as I was getting. The problem is solved here as well.
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I have a clean baseGNU/tarball with a working aptitude.
I plan to look at the disc sets over the next few days.
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maintain a local archive the scripts should be able to be adapted
to work with a network mirror.
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On Thursday 29 November 2007 17:06, Raghesh A wrote:
> Dear Philip,
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> We were able to reproduce the block size problem with a partition of
> 500 MB. Now we will change the block size to 4096 and test it out.
>
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On Thursday 29 November 2007 02:44, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 12:06:22AM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > No sign of the new glibc and hurd packages yet. I will probably
> > create a little script to check daily.
>
> Oops. I did not upload them becaus
hurd packages yet. I will probably create a
little script to check daily.
>
> Hrm, maybe we could run some QA tools on the Packages.gz of the archive
> which could report e.g. uninstallable packages. Not sure what exactly
> is available in this field or whether you're doing so already
On Tuesday 27 November 2007 06:42, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 06:37:17PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > I will quietly work on the revisions and let everyone how I get on.
>
> I am not sure at which point of the K15 process you are at, but I think
> now wo
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 15:17, Michael Banck wrote:
>
> 2. There is a /usr->. symlink, not a real /usr.
>
I need direction on this.
1. Is the / filesystem to remain as I have it?
2. is the /usr->. to be removed?
3. is the /usr filesystem to follow the Linux example?
Phil
points. I will put up the scripts at the Copyleft site after building
and testing. With luck you should be able to build the tarball
yourselves if you have not done so already.
I am copying this to the hurd list so they know what we are up to.
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Thanks for this Michael,
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 15:17, Michael Banck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:43:22AM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > This has turned out to be a tidy image and should not give any
> > problems.
>
> I tested it now on qemu an
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On Sunday 11 November 2007 04:08, Michael Banck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 10:44:03AM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 November 2007 06:41, Michael Banck wrote:
> > > Did you use the ones from
> > > http://www.debian.org/ports/hu
On Sunday 11 November 2007 04:08, Michael Banck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 10:44:03AM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 November 2007 06:41, Michael Banck wrote:
> > > Did you use the ones from
> > > http://www.debian.org/ports/hu
On Thursday 08 November 2007 06:41, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 12:39:06AM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > Not a very helpful answer. Using Marcus' cross-install and
> > dpkg-hurd.
>
> Did you use the ones from
> http://www.debian.org/ports/hu
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 23:29, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
> Hello!
>
> On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 10:58:15PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > I have run into the "diskfs_execboot_fsys_startup:unexpected error"
> > problem.
> >
> > I have looked at the th
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 23:11, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 10:58:15PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > I have run into the "diskfs_execboot_fsys_startup:unexpected error"
> > problem.
>
> How did you create/install the base tarball/packag
ed to boot them.
The first showstopper of the K15 series.
Phil.
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> Considering the issue of upgrading from K14/K11 I think this would be
> worth the effort
> http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20070907.163730.fad75215.en.
>html Regards
If people want it, I could build a K15 set next month. (I am trying give
up this project).
Phil.
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ess of taking over the
task of producing the iso's. The L1 series is their development version.
The latest stable version is K14.
Phil.
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> http://messenger.msn.com/Download/Default.aspx?mkt=en-in
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ot have the
energy to do further development for some time.
I am looking forward to playing with L1 will all its improvements.
FYI, CK Raju, Kiran and the rest are from the University of Calicut,
Kerala (the South West Coast, aka Malibar Coast) India.
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Nigel,
If you are using the CDROM it will be st up for you.
Phil.
On Sunday 04 March 2007 04:09, Nigel Horne wrote:
> I'm using K14 - what's the best values to put in /etc/apt/sources.list?
>
> -Nigel
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re a snapshot. This means that these are
produced without interrupting the development process. Debian GNU/Hurd
has just emerged from a period of instability and so the images are now
usable again.
Phil.
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ks
with Debian GNU/Linux.
See the Hurd Install Guide on the first CD.
Phil.
>
> On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 01:28 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 19:14:13 +1300, Philip Charles wrote:
> > >The K14 iso's are being uploaded to
> > >
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 21:26, Alejandro Serrano wrote:
> Philip Charles escribió:
> > On Wednesday 29 November 2006 11:40, Alejandro Serrano wrote:
> >> Philip Charles escribió:
> >>> On Wednesday 29 November 2006 09:57, Alejandro Serrano wrote:
> >>&
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