Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-28 Thread Philip Charles
I am going ahead and building the images. They should be available in a few days. ae and exim will be on the second CD (extra). I want to get them out of the way before I get overwhelmed by a turtle. I am planning on producing the F2 discs in about four weeks. Phil. - Philip Charles; 39a Pa

Re: Stupid FAQ? Was - Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Stuart Krivis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Are we nearing the point where I could actually install from a CD > image and run Hurd as my workstation? Depends. * The Hurd still crashes more often than the typical development version of Linux. * A lot of software is not yet ported. So look up t

Re: Stupid FAQ? Was - Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-26 Thread Philip Charles
If you are curious and adventurous, why not give it a try? Phil On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Stuart Krivis wrote: > Please don't kill me for asking this, but... :-) > > Is Hurd ready for the non-developer to use? I've been checking out this > list periodically for a long time, and just noticed all the

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-26 Thread Philip Charles
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Ian Duggan wrote: > Philip Charles wrote: > > > > On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Jeff Bailey wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 06:38:36AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > > > > ae-962-30 is not working (broken?), however ae in the tarball does work. > > > Fortunately my test box

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:40:56PM -0800, Ian Duggan wrote: > I had this problem too after and apt-get upgrade. It turned out that I > was missing the softlink: > > /lib/libslang.so --> /lib/libslang.so.1 > > Things started working after that. This points at some problem in the build proce

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-26 Thread Ian Duggan
Philip Charles wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Jeff Bailey wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 06:38:36AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > > > ae-962-30 is not working (broken?), however ae in the tarball does work. > Fortunately my test box was still running with the Hurd. > > ae: error while l

Stupid FAQ? Was - Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-26 Thread Stuart Krivis
Please don't kill me for asking this, but... :-) Is Hurd ready for the non-developer to use? I've been checking out this list periodically for a long time, and just noticed all the talk of CDs. Could this mean that Hurd is ready for me? I run Debian i386 unstable right now, as well as Mandrake an

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-26 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:59:16AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > > > ae-962-30 is not working (broken?), however ae in the tarball does work. > > > So the ae-962-30 is being transfered to the second CD, if not removed > > > completely. > > > > I just tested this on my system and it works for m

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-26 Thread Philip Charles
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Jeff Bailey wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 06:38:36AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > > ae-962-30 is not working (broken?), however ae in the tarball does work. > > So the ae-962-30 is being transfered to the second CD, if not removed > > completely. > > I just tested this

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-26 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 06:38:36AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > ae-962-30 is not working (broken?), however ae in the tarball does work. > So the ae-962-30 is being transfered to the second CD, if not removed > completely. I just tested this on my system and it works for me, can you give me de

Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-26 Thread Philip Charles
ae-962-30 is not working (broken?), however ae in the tarball does work. So the ae-962-30 is being transfered to the second CD, if not removed completely. There are still duplicate packages, namely bsdutils and eight flavours of binutils. I am choosing the latest of each pair. One more replace

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Roland McGrath
> Thanks, I understand now. The only problem is to get the cdrom drawer to > unlock with settrans -ag /cdrom You must make sure that the /dev/hd2 translator is dead too. Each one accesses the kernel device, and as long as anything has the kernel device open, the device is busy. settrans -ag /cdr

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Philip Charles
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Roland McGrath wrote: > > Thanks, I understand now. The only problem is to get the cdrom drawer to > > unlock with settrans -ag /cdrom > > You must make sure that the /dev/hd2 translator is dead too. > Each one accesses the kernel device, and as long as anything has > the ke

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Philip Charles
Thanks, I understand now. The only problem is to get the cdrom drawer to unlock with settrans -ag /cdrom Phil. On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Roland McGrath wrote: > Ok, things are working fine. I guess I just wasn't quite clear. Without > the -a flag to settrans, it resets the passive translator; erg

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Roland McGrath
Ok, things are working fine. I guess I just wasn't quite clear. Without the -a flag to settrans, it resets the passive translator; ergo, using "settrans -g NODE" resets the passive translator on the node. You want the passive translator to be set, i.e. as MAKEDEV leaves it. When you want to unm

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Philip Charles
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Roland McGrath wrote: > > Did yahi (Yet Another Hurd Install) and this worked fine. BUT settrans -g > > /dev/hd2 had to be used to enable the cdrom drive to open. The clumsy fix > > was to recreate /dev/hd2 before remounting the CD. > > Please be more precise in exactly wha

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Roland McGrath
> Did yahi (Yet Another Hurd Install) and this worked fine. BUT settrans -g > /dev/hd2 had to be used to enable the cdrom drive to open. The clumsy fix > was to recreate /dev/hd2 before remounting the CD. Please be more precise in exactly what you saw. settrans -ga (note the a) should be all th

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Philip Charles
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Roland McGrath wrote: > > This is probably me. The cdrom can be mounted with settrans /cdrom > > /hurd/isofs /dev/hd2 and I have managed to umount is by using settrans > > -fg /cdrom followed by settrans -fg /dev/hd2, but I cannot remount it, > > the error is bad superblock.

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Jeff Bailey
I don't think exim is going to be in this batch. =( db3 is just about finished compiling, and I'm too tired to really do much more with it tonight. I'll beat on exim a little more when I get up, though, so I'll still let you know when I've got it, just in case you still have room for it. Tks, Jef

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 07:51:23AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > > > Exim does not configure properly. This means that mailx, at, mutt and > > > logrotate will not configure either. > > > > I haven't updated exim in the archive yet - Should I do that soon? > > If I could download a package fro

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Philip Charles
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Jeff Bailey wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 06:40:57AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > > > Exim does not configure properly. This means that mailx, at, mutt and > > logrotate will not configure either. > > I haven't updated exim in the archive yet - Should I do that soon?

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Roland McGrath
> This is probably me. The cdrom can be mounted with settrans /cdrom > /hurd/isofs /dev/hd2 and I have managed to umount is by using settrans > -fg /cdrom followed by settrans -fg /dev/hd2, but I cannot remount it, > the error is bad superblock. Any ideas? Apt-cdrom cannot mount it > either. So

Re: Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 06:40:57AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > Exim does not configure properly. This means that mailx, at, mutt and > logrotate will not configure either. I haven't updated exim in the archive yet - Should I do that soon? > ae is replaced and will not run after the initial d

Hurd F1 CDs

2001-03-25 Thread Philip Charles
The first two test installs have been made and there are a few problems which people may be able to help with. The objective is to get a clean initial dselect run. Exim does not configure properly. This means that mailx, at, mutt and logrotate will not configure either. ae is replaced and will

Re: F1 CDs

2001-03-23 Thread Philip Charles
what > > can be excluded to halve this. I have managed to get both main and extra CDs down to 600 meg, hopefully without removing anything useful. -doc packages were a major target along with kernel, netscape et al, lg, and Linux documentation. I can get the F1 CDs out the door. Monday D.V? &g

Re: F1 CDs

2001-03-23 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Philip Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Question. How many files can a directory contain? What filesystem? ext2? iso? I just created a directory with 1 files and successfully run mkisoimg on it. So both of those filesystems should have no problem in with a few thousand files. > With

F1 CDs

2001-03-22 Thread Philip Charles
There were a number of libgb-* packages uploaded to alpha.gnu.org and I presume that these were to be incorporated into the CDs rather than the older ones in the official archive. Where there are duplication of packages the newer ones are chosen. Are there any problems with this? Question. How