Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-05 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:50:56PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 06:36:59PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: IMHO those GNU utilities need to be rewritten. And before they are rewritten, we need to add the Hurd support to them so the people rewriting it in 2005 will

Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 05:05:16PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: If you know a way of adding support for translators with the old tar format, that's true. I looked at it and I might have overlooked something, but I didn't see an easy way to add it. We already discussed this here before. The

Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-04 Thread Kenneth Stailey
--- Thomas Bushnell, BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neal H Walfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, cp -R is different. I'm of two minds about what the Right Thing is for the cp -R case. The way to copy it, of course, is to fetch the translator entry and set it on the copy. I

Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-04 Thread Moritz Schulte
The question I have is general and I think it's related to this thread. In my opinion, the passive translators used for auto-mounting filesystems are very different from the ones used for e.g. device files. Sure, technically they are the same, but the policy when to use the translator and when

Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-04 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Kenneth Stailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do cpio, tar and pax do this? Archivers are for making backups. No, but they certainly should. Making tar (and friends) preserve all Hurdish attributes is much more important (in my opinion) than fretting about cp.

Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-04 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 08:51:53AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Kenneth Stailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do cpio, tar and pax do this? Archivers are for making backups. No, but they certainly should. Making tar (and friends) preserve all Hurdish attributes is much more important

Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-04 Thread Niels Möller
Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If i would like to clone a GNU system via archiving the filesystem tree and extracting it later somewhere else, I would expect to also have /home archived although it's a different partition than the root filesystem, it's a passive translator sitting

Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 06:36:59PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: IMHO those GNU utilities need to be rewritten. And before they are rewritten, we need to add the Hurd support to them so the people rewriting it in 2005 will know what we need. Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian

Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-03 Thread Neal H Walfield
Oh, cp -R is different. I'm of two minds about what the Right Thing is for the cp -R case. The way to copy it, of course, is to fetch the translator entry and set it on the copy. I am not clear what you mean here.

Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Neal H Walfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, cp -R is different. I'm of two minds about what the Right Thing is for the cp -R case. The way to copy it, of course, is to fetch the translator entry and set it on the copy. I am not clear what you mean here. Open the node with

Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-03 Thread Neal H Walfield
Oh, cp -R is different. I'm of two minds about what the Right Thing is for the cp -R case. The way to copy it, of course, is to fetch the translator entry and set it on the copy. I am not clear what you mean here. Open the node with O_NOTRANS. Fetch the translator spec

Re: cp'ing passive translators

2002-03-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Neal H Walfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure, that is obvious. I suggested in my original email that this functionality should be added to cp: cp does not (yet) copy the Hurd attributes (e.g. the passive translator settings). You said that this should not be made a