Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Jor-el
Russell, On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote: Also don't allow recursion from outside machines. Why does this help? Another possibility is to have the port for outgoing connections be something other than 53 (54 seems unused) and use iptables or ipchains to block data from the

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread P Prince
The eaisest and most failsafe way to secure bind is to install djbdns. Google is your friend. -Tech On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Petre Daniel wrote: Well,i know Karsten's on my back and all,but i have not much time to learn,and too many things to do at my firm,so i am asking if one of you has any

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Jacob Elder
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 12:46:55PM -0500, P Prince wrote: The eaisest and most failsafe way to secure bind is to install djbdns. Troll. Google is your friend. -Tech On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Petre Daniel wrote: Well,i know Karsten's on my back and all,but i have not much time to

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:17, Jor-el wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote: Also don't allow recursion from outside machines. Why does this help? When someone sends a recursive query to your server then they know (with a good degree of accuracy) what requests are going to be made by

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread jernej horvat
On Sunday 30 December 2001 22:58, Russell Coker wrote: 2.4.x kernels support the --bind option to mount which avoids the syslogd yep. linux v2.4.x and bind v9.x are easier to set up. debian has almost out-of-the box chroot solution. I disagree with the supposed security benefits of disabling

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Michael D. Schleif
jernej horvat wrote: [ snip ] And this is what djb has to say for zone transfers :-) Zone transfers are an archaic alternative mechanism for copying DNS information. http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/faq/axfrdns.html#what ``Zone transfers are an archaic alternative mechanism for copying DNS

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread jernej horvat
On Monday 31 December 2001 01:29, Michael D. Schleif wrote: ... It is always amazing to me how *intelligent* people try to make their point by taking other people's words out of context . . . ... http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/faq/axfrdns.html#what i added the URL so i that everyone could look it

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 07:31:30PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: ``By combining all these tools, you can finally approach the functionality of a trivial rsync script. Wow.'' Enough said . . . by throwing away all your existing zonefiles, DNS configuration, DNS tools and a bunch of

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 07:31:30PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: ``By combining all these tools, you can finally approach the functionality of a trivial rsync script. Wow.'' Enough said . . . by throwing away all your existing zonefiles, DNS configuration,

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread John Galt
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, P Prince wrote: The eaisest and most failsafe way to secure bind is to install djbdns. Because after djbdns, bind 4.2 looks like a pinnacle of security... Google is your friend. Apparently it didn't get you a clue... -Tech On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Petre Daniel wrote:

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Jor-el
Russell, On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote: Lots of good stuff snipped Please read my messages carefully before flaming me. Ack! My apologies. Poor reading and poor wording. DNS cache machine sents out requests from source port 54 (not obscure - every administrator of

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread P Prince
One phrase, sir: WTF?! You fail to make sense. -Tech On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Michael D. Schleif wrote: jernej horvat wrote: [ snip ] And this is what djb has to say for zone transfers :-) Zone transfers are an archaic alternative mechanism for copying DNS information.

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread P Prince
This is well out of hand, and I've delt with it before, so this is my less mailing on teh subject. On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 08:34:32PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 07:31:30PM -0600, Michael D.

Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Petre Daniel
Well,i know Karsten's on my back and all,but i have not much time to learn,and too many things to do at my firm,so i am asking if one of you has any idea how can bind be protected against that DoS attack and if someone has some good firewall for a dns server ( that resolves names for internal

RE: Squid Explorer

2001-12-30 Thread Dave Smith
-Original Message- From: Jose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This may not be exactly what you are looking for but you might get away with: apt-get install squidclient snip Cheers, that progam helped alot. I have now written a short script to achieve what I wanted, which is to list by

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:18, Petre Daniel wrote: Well,i know Karsten's on my back and all,but i have not much time to learn,and too many things to do at my firm,so i am asking if one of you has any idea how can bind be protected against that DoS attack and if someone has some good firewall for a

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Jor-el
Russell, On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote: Also don't allow recursion from outside machines. Why does this help? Another possibility is to have the port for outgoing connections be something other than 53 (54 seems unused) and use iptables or ipchains to block data from the

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread P Prince
The eaisest and most failsafe way to secure bind is to install djbdns. Google is your friend. -Tech On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Petre Daniel wrote: Well,i know Karsten's on my back and all,but i have not much time to learn,and too many things to do at my firm,so i am asking if one of you has any

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Thomas Seyrat
Jor-el wrote: Another possibility is to have the port for outgoing connections be something other than 53 (54 seems unused) and use iptables or ipchains to block data from the outside world coming to port 53. [...] Of course, in the case of DNS servers, you could be OK, since you

Blackboard

2001-12-30 Thread Thedore Knab
I was wondering if anyone is running Blackboard on Debian ? The specs say designed for Redhat 6.2, but I would rather use Debian if possible. It appears that all the packages are availble in source, so I am assuming this wouldn't be a problem. -Ted

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread jernej horvat
On Sunday 30 December 2001 18:46, P Prince wrote: The eaisest and most failsafe way to secure bind is to install djbdns. If you have nothing to say - do not speak. -- Configuration options for BIND are listed on http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/docs/config/ List of URL that might be usefull

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:17, Jor-el wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote: Also don't allow recursion from outside machines. Why does this help? When someone sends a recursive query to your server then they know (with a good degree of accuracy) what requests are going to be made by

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:02, jernej horvat wrote: On Sunday 30 December 2001 18:46, P Prince wrote: The eaisest and most failsafe way to secure bind is to install djbdns. If you have nothing to say - do not speak. Perhaps a discussion of the relative merits of djbdns and bind is in order. I

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Petre Daniel
thank you all very much. you're right.if one doesn't have anything useful to say i'll recommand him to let others help.. thx guys. At 10:02 PM 12/30/01 +0100, jernej horvat wrote: On Sunday 30 December 2001 18:46, P Prince wrote: The eaisest and most failsafe way to secure bind is to install

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread P Prince
Hello, On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:02, jernej horvat wrote: On Sunday 30 December 2001 18:46, P Prince wrote: The eaisest and most failsafe way to secure bind is to install djbdns. If you have nothing to say - do not speak. Heh, I didn't send a

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread jernej horvat
On Sunday 30 December 2001 22:58, Russell Coker wrote: 2.4.x kernels support the --bind option to mount which avoids the syslogd yep. linux v2.4.x and bind v9.x are easier to set up. debian has almost out-of-the box chroot solution. I disagree with the supposed security benefits of disabling

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Michael D. Schleif
jernej horvat wrote: [ snip ] And this is what djb has to say for zone transfers :-) Zone transfers are an archaic alternative mechanism for copying DNS information. http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/faq/axfrdns.html#what ``Zone transfers are an archaic alternative mechanism for copying DNS

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread jernej horvat
On Monday 31 December 2001 01:29, Michael D. Schleif wrote: ... It is always amazing to me how *intelligent* people try to make their point by taking other people's words out of context . . . ... http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/faq/axfrdns.html#what i added the URL so i that everyone could look it up.

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Michael D. Schleif
jernej horvat wrote: On Monday 31 December 2001 01:29, Michael D. Schleif wrote: ... It is always amazing to me how *intelligent* people try to make their point by taking other people's words out of context . . . ... http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/faq/axfrdns.html#what i added the URL so i

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 07:31:30PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: ``By combining all these tools, you can finally approach the functionality of a trivial rsync script. Wow.'' Enough said . . . by throwing away all your existing zonefiles, DNS configuration, DNS tools and a bunch of

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 07:31:30PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: ``By combining all these tools, you can finally approach the functionality of a trivial rsync script. Wow.'' Enough said . . . by throwing away all your existing zonefiles, DNS configuration,

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread John Galt
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, P Prince wrote: The eaisest and most failsafe way to secure bind is to install djbdns. Because after djbdns, bind 4.2 looks like a pinnacle of security... Google is your friend. Apparently it didn't get you a clue... -Tech On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Petre Daniel wrote:

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread jernej horvat
On Monday 31 December 2001 03:34, Michael D. Schleif wrote: http://cr.yp.to/distributors.html Because of that policy there are no precompiled packages of djbdns, because: You may distribute a precompiled package if - installing your package produces exactly the same files, in exactly

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 08:34:32PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 07:31:30PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: ``By combining all these tools, you can finally approach the functionality of a trivial rsync script. Wow.'' Enough said . . .

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread Jor-el
Russell, On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote: Lots of good stuff snipped Please read my messages carefully before flaming me. Ack! My apologies. Poor reading and poor wording. DNS cache machine sents out requests from source port 54 (not obscure - every administrator of every

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread P Prince
One phrase, sir: WTF?! You fail to make sense. -Tech On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Michael D. Schleif wrote: jernej horvat wrote: [ snip ] And this is what djb has to say for zone transfers :-) Zone transfers are an archaic alternative mechanism for copying DNS information.

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread P Prince
Hey, On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 07:31:30PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: ``By combining all these tools, you can finally approach the functionality of a trivial rsync script. Wow.'' Enough said . . . by throwing away all your existing

Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread P Prince
This is well out of hand, and I've delt with it before, so this is my less mailing on teh subject. On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 08:34:32PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 07:31:30PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif