Re: a couple of postfix questions

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 14:35, W.D.McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, meaning Hotmail, Yahoo and others run three legged mules ? :-) It's just a pity that hotmail and yahoo have so many users that it's inconvenient to block them entirely. No worries, this list is about Debian and

Re: a couple of postfix questions

2004-12-08 Thread W.D.McKinney
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 19:06 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Wednesday 08 December 2004 14:35, W.D.McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, meaning Hotmail, Yahoo and others run three legged mules ? :-) It's just a pity that hotmail and yahoo have so many users that it's inconvenient to

Re: a couple of postfix questions

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 19:18, W.D.McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qmail is not in Debian. Even the qmail-src package is no longer in Debian. This makes it significantly more difficult to manage Qmail Debian servers. Well if you don't like compiling from src, then head to

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 09:55, Michael Loftis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with that statement. For us it suits our needs very well. I don't mind handling the extra retry traffic if it means legitimate mail on a 'grey/pink' host is just temporarily rejected or delayed while

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 07:51:13PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Wednesday 08 December 2004 09:55, Michael Loftis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with that statement. For us it suits our needs very well. I don't mind handling the extra retry traffic if it means legitimate mail

Debian on a Dell PowerEdge 2800 server

2004-12-08 Thread Ian Forbes
Hi All I have been asked to advise on the installation of Debian on a new Dell server. The client is keen on a PowerEdge 2800. From their spec this has a PERC4 SCSI raid controller on board. From what I can see PERC3 used an Adaptec chipset which is well supported in the latest kernels. Does

Re: Debian on a Dell PowerEdge 2800 server

2004-12-08 Thread Emmanuel Lacour
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 11:04:38AM +0200, Ian Forbes wrote: Hi All Look here: http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers and here: http://linux.dell.com/ -- Emmanuel Lacour Easter-eggs 44-46 rue de l'Ouest - 75014 Paris - France -

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread daniele becchi
Michael Loftis wrote: --On Monday, December 06, 2004 09:34 +0100 Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Various AOL mailservers, the Debian mailservers, and other servers sending out lots of regular mail get listed in spamcop regularly, so my recommendation (and that of

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:32 +0100 daniele becchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i would have used rbl checks in postfix instead of spamassim i would never receive that mail, right? the tracked ip is of course 217.226.195.186 and not the yahoo ip 216.109.118.120. Or i didn't

Re: a couple of postfix questions

2004-12-08 Thread Volker Tanger
Greetings! On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:25:05 +1100 Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you ignore really stupid annoyances like the fact that it can't reject a message at the SMTP level, it *always* accepts and then bounces it. Current mailstats on my private server (postfix) tell me:

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 20:32, daniele becchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Odd, since we don't see this. And when it does happen to 'big' mail senders it's never AOL for one (they're on the whitelist). And it's totally automatic so if they do end up on it's usually for less than a

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 20:16, Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig, why do you think it's undesirable to do so? because i dont want the extra retry traffic. i want spammers to take FOAD as an answer, and i dont want to welcome them with a pleasant please try again later

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 12:00:42AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Wednesday 08 December 2004 20:16, Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig, why do you think it's undesirable to do so? because i dont want the extra retry traffic. i want spammers to take FOAD as an answer, and i

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Ian Forbes
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 15:00, Russell Coker wrote: I agree that we don't want to be nice to spammers. But there is also the issue of being nice in the case of false-positives. I think, that a permanent error is the best response for a false-positive. The sender will then receive a

information request

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Bravo
Hello, the company I am working for is currently looking for Debian-friendly hosting (colocation) companies operating in China, Indonesia and India, more specifically in Beijing, Guangzhou, Jakarta and Mumbai. These can be different companies, of course. The important points are: -

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 15:30 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org opm.blitzed.org But now I have removed all exept the first two. spamhaus catchs more then 50% of my spams and abuseat around 10%. The rest is done by Blacklists and spamassassin. Spamhaus XBL

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 23:56 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: Yahoo server IP address space should not be in a dialup class. If that happens then notify the person maintaining the dialup-list that you use that they have an inaccuracy. This is incorrect when you look at the headers. Received:

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Thursday, December 09, 2004 01:12 +1100 Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if it's a false positive, the sender will get a bounce from their MTA and they can fix the problem or route around it. IMO, that's far nicer to legit senders than them not knowing that their mail isn't being

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Wednesday, December 08, 2004 16:04 +0200 Ian Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 08 December 2004 15:00, Russell Coker wrote: I agree that we don't want to be nice to spammers. But there is also the issue of being nice in the case of false-positives. I think, that a permanent

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 07:41:12PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: Received: from [217.226.195.183] by web60309.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:12:36 CET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 SpamAssassin looks at all the headers. If this is a good choice or not is

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 03:38:36PM -0700, Michael Loftis wrote: --On Thursday, December 09, 2004 01:12 +1100 Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if it's a false positive, the sender will get a bounce from their MTA and they can fix the problem or route around it. IMO, that's far nicer

RE: MailScanner with Sendmail

2004-12-08 Thread Penbrock
Thanks alot I now have MailScanner scanning all my messages :). How ever I have one minor(?) problem, sendmail movers messages to the mqueue.in , MailScanner scans them and moves them to the /mqueue like it should,... but the messages just sit there. Do I now need to change procmail?

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 09 December 2004 01:12, Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the log file noise issue is important to me - i've recently started monitoring mail.log and adding iptables rules to block smtp connections from client IPs that commit various spammish-looking crimes against my system.

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:27:27AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Thursday 09 December 2004 01:12, Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the log file noise issue is important to me - i've recently started monitoring mail.log and adding iptables rules to block smtp connections from client

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:27:27AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Thursday 09 December 2004 01:12, Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the log file noise issue is important to me - i've recently started monitoring mail.log and adding iptables rules to block smtp connections i also wrote