Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-22 Thread Jean-Francois Dive
Just to mention but when you have pmtu occuring in a vpn context, you have a problem if the lower mtu is in the tunneled packet path: the icmp will be sent to the originator of the encapsulated packet which is the vpn box which itself cant send it back to the client and so pmtu is borken. In

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-22 Thread Andrew Miehs
Stripping the DF Bit should be enough to solve this problem... as the routers will then fragment the packets as required. Or have I missed something? Andrew On 22.06.2004, at 09:54, Jean-Francois Dive wrote: Just to mention but when you have pmtu occuring in a vpn context, you have a problem if

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-22 Thread Jean-Francois Dive
Just to mention but when you have pmtu occuring in a vpn context, you have a problem if the lower mtu is in the tunneled packet path: the icmp will be sent to the originator of the encapsulated packet which is the vpn box which itself cant send it back to the client and so pmtu is borken. In

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-22 Thread Andrew Miehs
Stripping the DF Bit should be enough to solve this problem... as the routers will then fragment the packets as required. Or have I missed something? Andrew On 22.06.2004, at 09:54, Jean-Francois Dive wrote: Just to mention but when you have pmtu occuring in a vpn context, you have a problem if

DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-21 Thread Andrew Miehs
Help! I can't find it How do I turn off the 'Don't Fragment' bit? without using IP Tables/ Chains? Is there a proc setting? or do I need to re-compile ther Kernel? and if so, where is the jumper? Thanks Andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-21 Thread Fraser Campbell
On June 21, 2004 07:36 am, Andrew Miehs wrote: I can't find it How do I turn off the 'Don't Fragment' bit? without using IP Tables/ Chains? Is there a proc setting? or do I need to re-compile ther Kernel? and if so, where is the jumper? You're probably looking for

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-21 Thread Andreas John
Hi! I had a similar Problem with a tunnel - I solved it by setting the MTU of the interface lower. The PMTU discovery didn't work in my case. rgds, j Andrew Miehs wrote: Hi Fraser, tried that... But that seemed just to disable PMTU Discovery, and not disbale the 'DF' bit... (After the traffic

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-21 Thread Fraser Campbell
On June 21, 2004 09:50 am, Andrew Miehs wrote: tried that... But that seemed just to disable PMTU Discovery, and not disbale the 'DF' bit... (After the traffic between myself and the server via a CIPE tunnel stopped working when the packets got tooo large) - Or is there a bug in packet

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-21 Thread Andrew Miehs
Will have to try it again... The reason why Path MTU doesn't work, is that our F5s (BigIPs) seem to have a broken implementation of NATing ICMP PMTU packets (at least when using Aggregate ALL - OncConnect or SNAT) Andrew My bet would be that someone is blocking icmp messages (you, your

DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-21 Thread Andrew Miehs
Help! I can't find it How do I turn off the 'Don't Fragment' bit? without using IP Tables/ Chains? Is there a proc setting? or do I need to re-compile ther Kernel? and if so, where is the jumper? Thanks Andrew

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-21 Thread Fraser Campbell
On June 21, 2004 07:36 am, Andrew Miehs wrote: I can't find it How do I turn off the 'Don't Fragment' bit? without using IP Tables/ Chains? Is there a proc setting? or do I need to re-compile ther Kernel? and if so, where is the jumper? You're probably looking for

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-21 Thread Andrew Miehs
Hi Fraser, tried that... But that seemed just to disable PMTU Discovery, and not disbale the 'DF' bit... (After the traffic between myself and the server via a CIPE tunnel stopped working when the packets got tooo large) - Or is there a bug in packet fragmentation in the linux kernel? Regards

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-21 Thread Andreas John
Hi! I had a similar Problem with a tunnel - I solved it by setting the MTU of the interface lower. The PMTU discovery didn't work in my case. rgds, j Andrew Miehs wrote: Hi Fraser, tried that... But that seemed just to disable PMTU Discovery, and not disbale the 'DF' bit... (After the traffic

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-21 Thread Fraser Campbell
On June 21, 2004 09:50 am, Andrew Miehs wrote: tried that... But that seemed just to disable PMTU Discovery, and not disbale the 'DF' bit... (After the traffic between myself and the server via a CIPE tunnel stopped working when the packets got tooo large) - Or is there a bug in packet

Re: DF bit - Dont Fragment

2004-06-21 Thread Andrew Miehs
Will have to try it again... The reason why Path MTU doesn't work, is that our F5s (BigIPs) seem to have a broken implementation of NATing ICMP PMTU packets (at least when using Aggregate ALL - OncConnect or SNAT) Andrew My bet would be that someone is blocking icmp messages (you, your