Re: [ot] Re: Courier traffic accounting

2004-11-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.20.1803 +0100]: > Actually... as far as a lot of users are capable of thinking, > that's exactly what SMTP should stand for: "I attach this file and > send it, could it be simpler?". And you know something? I can > see their po

Re: [ot] Re: Courier traffic accounting

2004-11-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, martin f krafft wrote: > 478181 kilobytes in a POP3 session... teach those folks that SMTP is > not the simple mass transfer protocol. Actually... as far as a lot of users are capable of thinking, that's exactly what SMTP should stand for: "I attach this file and send it, coul

Re: Courier traffic accounting

2004-11-20 Thread Philipp Kern
Hi there Martin! On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 17:21, martin f krafft wrote: > These are bytes. Be aware that this sort of accounting does not > include the respective protocol, or additional TCP, or IP traffic. Oh yes. I ignored them because in the small test session there was only protocol traffic. >

[ot] Re: Courier traffic accounting

2004-11-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Teófilo Ruiz Suárez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.20.1733 +0100]: > > Nov 20 16:55:22 quebrantahuesos pop3d-ssl: LOGOUT, user=teo, > > ip=[:::217.125.62.238], top=0, retr=478181 > > > > The "retr" field is in KBytes. > > As madduck said in his mail, this are bytes :) Otherwise I'd

Re: Limiting User Commands

2004-11-20 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Sunday, 07 November 2004 18:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You just need to add group(access) to that system accounts that you > want or that you think that they'll break in unexpected places... > Don't you think? Why not do this the other way around; it's much simpler: e.g. add users you don'

Re: Courier traffic accounting

2004-11-20 Thread Teófilo Ruiz Suárez
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 05:20:07PM +0100, Teófilo Ruiz Suárez wrote: > On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 04:48:49PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: > > Dear debian-isp list members, > > > > are there any ways of traffic accounting related to Courier POP3d and > > IMAPd? We need this on a per-domain basis. The ac

Re: Courier traffic accounting

2004-11-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Philipp Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.20.1648 +0100]: > are there any ways of traffic accounting related to Courier POP3d and > IMAPd? We need this on a per-domain basis. The accounting for > incoming/outgoing mail is easy, as our mailserver of choice -- Exim v4 > -- logs the messag

Re: Courier traffic accounting

2004-11-20 Thread Teófilo Ruiz Suárez
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 04:48:49PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: > Dear debian-isp list members, > > are there any ways of traffic accounting related to Courier POP3d and > IMAPd? We need this on a per-domain basis. The accounting for > incoming/outgoing mail is easy, as our mailserver of choice -- E

Re: Limiting User Commands

2004-11-20 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Sunday, 07 November 2004 18:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You just need to add group(access) to that system accounts that you > want or that you think that they'll break in unexpected places... > Don't you think? Why not do this the other way around--it should be much simpler, and only affect

Re: access controll in MySQL

2004-11-19 Thread Steve Suehring
Hmm. Will the users need to connect to the MySQL server itself or is the user administration going to just be using MySQL as a backend database? If you're just using MySQL as a backend repository for users and the users won't be connecting directly to the MySQL database then you probably sho

Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?

2004-11-19 Thread Robert Cates
astic config changes, just the obvious necessary settings to access the DB. Thanks! Robert - Original Message - From: "W.D.McKinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:47 AM Subject: Re: decent webmail software - does it exist

Re: access controll in MySQL

2004-11-19 Thread Chris Wagner
No, that would be fine, as long as u had an index for the commonly accessed columns. You would need millions of rows to see a performance hit even on a slow system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?

2004-11-18 Thread Timur Irmatov
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 10:23:53AM +0100, Bertrand Yvain wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 02:19:36PM +0500, Timur Irmatov wrote: > > Then it was OpenWebMail. It has problems with Subjects containing > > russian text. > > FYI, headers must be in plain ASCII (RFC822). But I agree that eve

Re: Updated Debian boot-floppies for Proliant

2004-11-18 Thread Emmanuel Halbwachs
Hello, Craig Sanders a écrit : On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 01:51:00PM +0200, Emmanuel Halbwachs wrote: Take a look at http://www.sk-tech.net/support/HPrpm2deb.sh.html It worked straightforward for me. This script fetches the RPM for RedHat on HP's FTP site, does alien, adapts some things for debian and

Re: decent webmail software - does it exist? (Test: äöüÄÖÜ)

2004-11-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Bertrand Yvain wrote: > Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > > On Thursday 18 November 2004 10.23, Bertrand Yvain wrote: > > > FYI, headers must be in plain ASCII (RFC822). But I agree that everyone > > > wants to have a subject in the same language as the body. > >

Re: decent webmail software - does it exist? (Test: äöüÄÖÜ)

2004-11-18 Thread Bertrand Yvain
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > On Thursday 18 November 2004 10.23, Bertrand Yvain wrote: > > FYI, headers must be in plain ASCII (RFC822). But I agree that everyone > > wants to have a subject in the same language as the body. > > Headers can contain any charset they wish, as long

Re: decent webmail software - does it exist? (Test: äöüÄÖÜ)

2004-11-18 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Thursday 18 November 2004 10.23, Bertrand Yvain wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 02:19:36PM +0500, Timur Irmatov wrote: > > Then it was OpenWebMail. It has problems with Subjects containing > > russian text. > > FYI, headers must be in plain ASCII (RFC822). But I agree that everyone >

Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?

2004-11-18 Thread Bertrand Yvain
Hi, On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 02:19:36PM +0500, Timur Irmatov wrote: > Then it was OpenWebMail. It has problems with Subjects containing > russian text. FYI, headers must be in plain ASCII (RFC822). But I agree that everyone wants to have a subject in the same language as the body. -- Lost Oasi

Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?

2004-11-17 Thread W.D.McKinney
On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 21:31 +0500, Timur Irmatov wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 01:46:57PM +, David Reynolds wrote: > > > > Try IlohaMail. It is robust and fast and also multilingual. Looking at > > the demo on their site. It appears to support Russian. Not being Russian > > Speaking mysel

Re: Updated Debian boot-floppies for Proliant

2004-11-17 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 07:40:01AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > one other problem, is that i can't get the kernel to detect the full > amount of RAM - it has 2GB, but it's only detecting 1GB. I tried > adding mem=1920M in grub but that didn't help. doh! i forgot to compile high memory support in

Re: Updated Debian boot-floppies for Proliant

2004-11-17 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 01:51:00PM +0200, Emmanuel Halbwachs wrote: > >The next step is getting the hp monitoring tools working on debian. > > Take a look at http://www.sk-tech.net/support/HPrpm2deb.sh.html > It worked straightforward for me. > > This script fetches the RPM for RedHat on HP's FTP

Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?

2004-11-17 Thread Timur Irmatov
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 01:46:57PM +, David Reynolds wrote: > > Try IlohaMail. It is robust and fast and also multilingual. Looking at > the demo on their site. It appears to support Russian. Not being Russian > Speaking myself I can't tell how well it handles it, but it looks > Russian to

Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?

2004-11-17 Thread Timur Irmatov
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 06:36:54PM +0300, Max Kosmach wrote: > >Then I tried IMP. It cannot properly display messages in utf-8 > >charset. > IMP from testing/unstable work with utf-8 well, works but with some flaws. I have installed 1.5.0 development version, it allows me to reply to emails cont

Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?

2004-11-17 Thread Max Kosmach
Timur Irmatov wrote: Hi! Then I tried IMP. It cannot properly display messages in utf-8 charset. IMP from testing/unstable work with utf-8 -- With Best Wishes Max CCSA,CCSE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: exim4 and maildrop

2004-11-17 Thread simon
Ce jour Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Mark Bucciarelli a dit: > On Tuesday 16 November 2004 10:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > DEFAULT=/var/spool/courier/user/$LOGNAME/Maildir > > $HOME=/var/spool/courier/user/$LOGNAME > ^^^ > This dollar sign looks wrong. > > > MAILBOX=$HOME/Maildir > > $INCLUDE=$MAILBO

Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?

2004-11-17 Thread David Reynolds
Timur Irmatov wrote: == SNIP == I am russian-speaking person, and thus main requirement for webmail software is complete and robust support of russian language - both in interface and emails. Try IlohaMail. It is robust and fast and also multilingual. Looking at the demo on their site. It appears

Re: problem with pasive MODE and NAT

2004-11-17 Thread corne
Try loading two additional netfilter modules to do conection tracking for your ftp conection called "ip_conntrack_ftp" and "ip_nat_ftp" this should sort out your problem Regards Corne Alberts Information Architect Quoting Francisco Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hello, > > I has a proftpd

Re: Debian for ISP

2004-11-16 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Wouter Verhelst said: > Op di, 16-11-2004 te 19:28 +0100, schreef David Schmitt: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 09:15:24AM -0700, Omar wrote: > > > Also I want to ask if there is a way that I can check the user > > > Authentication? > > > Or get a list of users and their

Re: Debian for ISP

2004-11-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op di, 16-11-2004 te 19:28 +0100, schreef David Schmitt: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 09:15:24AM -0700, Omar wrote: > > Also I want to ask if there is a way that I can check the user > > Authentication? > > Or get a list of users and their level? admin, regular user and so on. I > > believe > > th

RE: Debian for ISP

2004-11-16 Thread Darrel O'Pry
> -Original Message- > From: Jacob S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Debian for ISP > > On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:15:24 -0700 > Omar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello all

Re: Debian for ISP

2004-11-16 Thread David Schmitt
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 09:15:24AM -0700, Omar wrote: > Also I want to ask if there is a way that I can check the user > Authentication? > Or get a list of users and their level? admin, regular user and so on. I > believe > that the previous admin used LDAP, is there a way I can look into the L

Re: Debian for ISP

2004-11-16 Thread Jacob S
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:15:24 -0700 Omar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > I have just took over a network for an ISP that is running Debian, I > am used to > using Cpanel/Whm and now I have to use the CLI. > > The ISP also provides Hosting services and it uses dbdns 1.03, > tinydns, x

Re: Debian for ISP

2004-11-16 Thread Gerhard Venter
Omar wrote: Also I am thinking of installing webmin, so I can configure everything over the web, if I do install it, will it recognize the current system, and the current settings or will I have to take things in manually. Not sure about the other questions, but Webmin will recognise your curr

Re: exim4 and maildrop

2004-11-16 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Tuesday 16 November 2004 10:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > DEFAULT=/var/spool/courier/user/$LOGNAME/Maildir > $HOME=/var/spool/courier/user/$LOGNAME ^^^ This dollar sign looks wrong. > MAILBOX=$HOME/Maildir > $INCLUDE=$MAILBOX Try it without the dollar sign prefixes; that is, DEFAULT=/var/s

Re: exim4 and maildrop

2004-11-16 Thread simon
Ce jour Mon, 15 Nov 2004, simon raven a dit: > Ce jour Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Mark Bucciarelli a dit: > > > > aah, good idea. i assume man maildrop will have that info. i was going > to set the -V option but acccording to that man page -V isn't respected > when run in delivery mode (-d). ok, settin

Re: problem with pasive MODE and NAT

2004-11-15 Thread simon
Ce jour Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Francisco Castillo a dit: > > > Hello, > > > when i connect from a cuteftp client from a 192.168.0.Y ip the client get > the correct pasive port to get data (4) from the proftpd server but > if i try to access from a public client ip (with cuteftp too) the server

Re: SV: automatically logging out users

2004-11-15 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 21:51, Christofer Algotsson wrote: > martin f krafft wrote: > > Is there a way to automatically log out users after a certain idle > > period? I would need this automatic logout on a per-service basis, > > thus e.g. logging out KDE and tty users while keeping SSH users > > log

Re: exim4 and maildrop

2004-11-15 Thread simon
Ce jour Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Mark Bucciarelli a dit: > On Monday 15 November 2004 17:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > so really, this is 2 problems in one: one is the .mailfilter file isn't > > read, and that log snippet which no sense. > > Seems like the same problem--mailrop is not given the co

Re: exim4 and maildrop

2004-11-15 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Monday 15 November 2004 17:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > so really, this is 2 problems in one: one is the .mailfilter file isn't > read, and that log snippet which no sense. Seems like the same problem--mailrop is not given the correct home dir. Put some logging in /etc/courier/maildroprc a

Re: on-line DNS administration

2004-11-15 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting Antonin Karasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm using bind9 and want to enable my users to configure DNS over > web-interface. Is it anyhow possible to configure bind9 over LDAP or > MySQL or must I work with text files? http://www.venaas.no/ldap/bind-sdb/ > And one more question - Have anybo

Re: on-line DNS administration

2004-11-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Antonin Karasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.15.1619 +0100]: > And one more question - Have anybody heard about open-source (GPL) > web-based administration for bind9? webmin-bind should work -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. kra

Re: SV: automatically logging out users

2004-11-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Christofer Algotsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.15.1151 +0100]: > Idled might be a solution. > > http://www.darkwing.com/idled/ Well, this seems rather dead upstream. I'll ping. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Looking for a network sniffer that collects a used-ports list to help preparing a portfilter firewall script

2004-11-13 Thread martin f krafft
First, read out aloud the first line of my signature, then read the Debian list policy, then verify the Mail-Followup-To header of my posts, and then do not CC anyone again unless requested. also sprach Christian Hammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.13.1228 +0100]: > fetches data on Port 12345 but

Re: Looking for a network sniffer that collects a used-ports list to help preparing a portfilter firewall script

2004-11-13 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello On 2004-11-12 martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Christian Hammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.12.1538 +0100]: > > I remember a network sniffer that could be run e.g. over a week to > > collects a list of all used tcp/udp ports which could then be used > > as base for creating a firewall

Re: stolen

2004-11-12 Thread webmaster
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Re: Looking for a network sniffer that collects a used-ports list to help preparing a portfilter firewall script

2004-11-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Christian Hammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.12.1538 +0100]: > I remember a network sniffer that could be run e.g. over a week to > collects a list of all used tcp/udp ports which could then be used > as base for creating a firewall script for hosts. What an extraordinarily bad idea.

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-12 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:47:17PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:12:34AM +, John Goerzen wrote: > i like the way it works. makes it easy to model the flow of mail from > component to component. On the other hand, it introduces complexity into the system. It's a lot

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-12 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 10:09:36AM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > On Friday 12 November 2004 07.47, Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:12:34AM +, John Goerzen wrote: > > > > > 4 ETRN > > > > > > Weird, people are just sending ETRN commands to you?

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-12 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Friday 12 November 2004 07.47, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:12:34AM +, John Goerzen wrote: > > > 4 ETRN > > > > Weird, people are just sending ETRN commands to you? me too. One is a mail server of a respected company that is apparently misconfigured, and has bee

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.12.0612 +0100]: > And I get many legitimate e-mails with a bad HELO. In fact, > I would argue that your rule here is wrong. If I send you an > e-mail from my laptop, it is not going to send you an address of > a server that can receive mail (o

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:12:34AM +, John Goerzen wrote: > > 2. postfix does support filtering during the SMTP transaction. the > > difference > > is that the postfix author tells you up front that it is inherently > > problematic > > (for *ANY* MTA, not just postfix) because of the potenti

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 05:12:10PM -0500, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > On Thursday 11 November 2004 17:04, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > 22256 Bad HELO > > wow. most of them being spammers trying to use my IP address or a bogus domain name in the HELO/EHLO string. and most of them from Korea. most

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread John Goerzen
On 2004-11-11, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 09:25:52PM +, John Goerzen wrote: > a few comments, though: > > 1. "synchronization detection" - postfix has done this for years, except that > it's called "reject_unauth_pipelining". you enable it as one of the

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Craig, > 2. postfix does support filtering during the SMTP transaction. the difference > is that the postfix author tells you up front that it is inherently > problematic > (for *ANY* MTA, not just postfix) because of the potential for SMTP timeouts > if > the filter takes too long to run (S

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Thursday 11 November 2004 17:04, Craig Sanders wrote: > 22256 Bad HELO wow. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 09:25:52PM +, John Goerzen wrote: > I just switched from Postfix to Exim. I am now a big fan of Exim. > > http://changelog.complete.org/articles/2004/11/08/latest-experiment-exim/ > http://changelog.complete.org/articles/2004/11/11/exim-transition-successful/ glad to

Re: What stripe size for mail server?

2004-11-11 Thread Chris Wagner
Oh yeah ur right. :) The file system itself is written in the stripes and stripe boundaries don't have to correspond to cluster boundaries although I think this would be advantageous. 1 cluster -> 1 stripe would be the optimum speed configuration I think. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread mailinglists
On Saturday 06 November 2004 22:19, Rodney Richison wrote: Are most of you using exim or postfix? Just curious. I've never tried exim. i use postfix/courier-imap,pop3/maildrop/sqwebmail with amavisd-new, clamav, spamassasin, razor and pyzor. mysql is my userdatabase and postfixadmin my webfront

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread John Goerzen
I just switched from Postfix to Exim. I am now a big fan of Exim. http://changelog.complete.org/articles/2004/11/08/latest-experiment-exim/ http://changelog.complete.org/articles/2004/11/11/exim-transition-successful/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Saturday 06 November 2004 22:19, Rodney Richison wrote: > Are most of you using exim or postfix? Just curious. I've never tried > exim. neither. courier-mta. just starting to have some production experience, and so far i like it quite a bit. i chose it because it has everything integrated

Re: Current status in antivirus & antispam / MTA integration

2004-11-11 Thread Robert Hensel
Hey, You can simply add amavisd-new to your setup. You only need to configure postfix to use it, and that's about it. From there you can start adding scanners like ClamAV and Spamassassin. Since you want per-user customability, i suggest you take a look at "http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/RE

Re: What stripe size for mail server?

2004-11-11 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Thursday 11 November 2004 09.12, Chris Wagner wrote: > Since you (happy Adrian??) Much easier to read :-) [...] > If u have 32KB stripes so that > almost every file fits in 1 stripe, the leftover space is wasted. So a > 2.5KB file written in a 32 KB stripe wastes 30.5 KB. Err. This statemen

Re: What stripe size for mail server?

2004-11-11 Thread Chris Wagner
Ah, ok that changes everything. "mailboxes" ;) At 12:30 AM 11/11/04 +0100, Marcin Owsiany wrote: >> If u still need RAID 5 then I would make the stripe size equal to >> average file size / number of data disks up to no more than 32KB stripe. > >Since avg file size would be something around 2500

Re: What stripe size for mail server?

2004-11-11 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.11.0842 +0100]: > To optimize random small reads, it's best if a read can be satisfied by > touching only one disk, so large stripe sizes should be better - with your > avg file size, 8k or 16k stripes should be fine;

Re: What stripe size for mail server?

2004-11-10 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Wednesday 10 November 2004 23.29, Chris Wagner wrote: It's 'you' - three letters :-) > If u still need RAID 5 then I would make the > stripe size equal to average file size / number of data disks up to no > more than 32KB stripe. To optimize random small reads, it's best if a read can be sati

Re: What stripe size for mail server?

2004-11-10 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 05:29:37PM -0500, Chris Wagner wrote: > I would say that RAID 5 is probably overkill for a mail queue. It's not the mail queue. Its the mail store (maildirs). We have no problems with mail queue performance so far. > Unless ur > mail queue is running hundreds of gigabytes

Re: What stripe size for mail server?

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Wagner
I would say that RAID 5 is probably overkill for a mail queue. Unless ur mail queue is running hundreds of gigabytes and overloading a single disk, a normal single hard drive is sufficient. Based on ur graph it looks like ur queue is under half a gig. If you want redundancy for the mail queue the

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-10 Thread Robert Brockway
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Robert Brockway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041110 20:20]: > > Oh you mean reject mail for unknown recipients rather than bounce the > > mail[1]. Ok, I can see why you are suggesting it but it is an RFC > > violation. > > Why should it be a RFC violation to

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-10 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 02:18:50PM -0500, Robert Brockway wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Craig Sanders wrote: > > if you do have a backup MX, then you need to have the same anti-spam > > & anti-virus rules as on your primary server AND (most important!) it > > needs to have a list of valid recipient

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-10 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 02:10:18PM -0500, Robert Brockway wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > backup MX is obsolete these days, very few people need it (most of > > This does seem to be a prevailing opinion but I think backup MXs are > valuable now for the same reason they al

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-10 Thread Andreas Barth
* Robert Brockway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041110 20:20]: > Oh you mean reject mail for unknown recipients rather than bounce the > mail[1]. Ok, I can see why you are suggesting it but it is an RFC > violation. Why should it be a RFC violation to reject mail for unknown recipients with 550? If a remo

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-10 Thread Robert Brockway
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Craig Sanders wrote: > if you do have a backup MX, then you need to have the same anti-spam > & anti-virus rules as on your primary server AND (most important!) it > needs to have a list of valid recipients, so that it can 5xx reject > mail for unknown users rather than accept

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-10 Thread Robert Brockway
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Craig Sanders wrote: > backup MX is obsolete these days, very few people need it (most of This does seem to be a prevailing opinion but I think backup MXs are valuable now for the same reason they always were - outages happen. We have no way of knowing how long a remote MTA

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-10 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 11:09:47AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.10.1014 +0100]: > > > I agree. But exim can do it. And even though this is the LDA > > > part of it, postfix also includes an LDA, which is just not up > > > to speed. > > > >

Re: Limiting User Commands

2004-11-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
Michael Graham wrote: Ben Hutchings wrote: Christopher Swingley wrote: Change the ownership and permissions on their .bash_profile and .bashrc to root:root 644: -rw-r--r--1 root root 420 Sep 21 13:05 .bash_profile -rw-r--r--1 root root 746 Sep 21 13:05 .ba

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.10.1014 +0100]: > > I agree. But exim can do it. And even though this is the LDA > > part of it, postfix also includes an LDA, which is just not up > > to speed. > > and postfix can do it too. No, it cannot, unless you use spamassassin as the

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-10 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 09:19:49AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.10.0901 +0100]: > > > Anyway, if you are so confident about postfix, then maybe you > > > can teach me how to set up spamassassin to run under the local > > > user's identity, >

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.10.0901 +0100]: > > Anyway, if you are so confident about postfix, then maybe you > > can teach me how to set up spamassassin to run under the local > > user's identity, > > procmail, maildrop or whatever local delivery agent you use can > run

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-10 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 08:21:14AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.10.0010 +0100]: > > > There have been some very simple things that I've needed to find > > > solutions to with postfix in the past which I ended up having to > > > do with procm

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.10.0010 +0100]: > > There have been some very simple things that I've needed to find > > solutions to with postfix in the past which I ended up having to > > do with procmail that I can now deal with in ~ 3 lines in the exim > > config. > > my

Re: Sarge on a supermicro X5DPA-TGM ?

2004-11-09 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 11:20, Rhesa Rozendaal wrote: > We recently bought a new machine. It's a Super Micro motherboard model > X5DPA-TGM with Intel's ICH5-SATA Serial ATA IDE chipset. I'd like to > know if anyone has experience with it in combination with Debian. > > I did find http://www.lathi.

Re: Limiting User Commands

2004-11-09 Thread Stephen Le
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:43:19 -0500, Doug Griswold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can upload the changes. You will get tired of that real quick. Other > than this method there is always a what if factor selinux,chroot, > virtual server etc... The point is to minimize the "what if" factors by choos

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 11:56:04PM +0100, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: > ## Craig Sanders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 08:04:24PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > > also sprach Dale E. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.09.1954 +0100]: > > > > rbldns (djbdns) is (a) non-fr

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 01:40:30PM +, Brett Parker wrote: > There have been some very simple things that I've needed to find > solutions to with postfix in the past which I ended up having to > do with procmail that I can now deal with in ~ 3 lines in the exim > config. my guess is that you j

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Craig Sanders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 08:04:24PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Dale E. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.09.1954 +0100]: > > rbldns (djbdns) is (a) non-free, > nope. > rbldnsd is NOT djbdns. Confusion :) There is rbldns, part of djbdns:

Re: Limiting User Commands

2004-11-09 Thread Doug Griswold
Don't give them shell access, and don't let them ftp to the server. Make them email you all the changes so you can browse for bad code. Then you can upload the changes. You will get tired of that real quick. Other than this method there is always a what if factor selinux,chroot, virtual serve

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 08:04:24PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Dale E. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.09.1954 +0100]: > > This got me to thinking, it would be neat if one could _easily_ > > replicate RBLs on their own local DNS server. > > rbldns (djbdns) is (a) non-free, no

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 03:30:03PM +, John Goerzen wrote: > On 2004-11-09, Steve Drees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Goerzen <> wrote: > >> I'm looking at redoing my mail setup due primarily to spam filtering. > >> Over at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Spam-Filtering-for-MX/multimx.html, > >>

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 04:10:07PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.09.1514 +0100]: > > It seems to make a lot of sense to me, but it seems too that > > I must be missing something. > > if the backup MX is configured exactly like the primary, th

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 02:14:15PM +, John Goerzen wrote: > I'm looking at redoing my mail setup due primarily to spam filtering. > Over at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Spam-Filtering-for-MX/multimx.html, > they are suggesting not to use redundant mail servers unless needed > for load balancing.

Re: Limiting User Commands

2004-11-09 Thread Stephen Le
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:28:10 -0900, Christopher Swingley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Make symbolic links between allowed commands and '/usr/local/rbin' > > As I said before, this is just a simple attempt to reduce priviledge. > There are undoubtably ways around it, some easier than others dependin

RE: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Darrel O'Pry
Quoting Steve Drees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > John Goerzen <> wrote: > > I'm looking at redoing my mail setup due primarily to spam filtering. > > Over at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Spam-Filtering-for-MX/multimx.html, > > they are suggesting not to use redundant mail servers unless needed > > for load

Re: Write permission on remote machine

2004-11-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bill Flanagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.09.2111 +0100]: > Any pointers on things to look at? The Linspire support community The KDE mailing lists The Samba mailing lists A Linux reference *Maybe* debian-user --> but not here. > Does putting a name and p/w into local client authent

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Richard A Nelson
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Dale E. Martin wrote: > > i usually have my backup MX accept everything and then don't treat > > them specially on the primary. thus, policy is still enforced on the > > primary, but there is a proper backup path *under my control* should > > the primary be unreachable for what

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dale E. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.09.1954 +0100]: > This got me to thinking, it would be neat if one could _easily_ > replicate RBLs on their own local DNS server. rbldns (djbdns) is (a) non-free, and (b) really nice and easy to use for this purpose. > Then you could easily

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Tuesday, November 09, 2004 13:54 -0500 "Dale E. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This got me to thinking, it would be neat if one could _easily_ replicate RBLs on their own local DNS server. Then you could easily point primary and secondary at your local RBL and manage it just in your D

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Dale E. Martin
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 05:04:09PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Dale E. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.09.1652 +0100]: > > With this approach you can't bounce RBLed messages at SMTP connect > > time though, right? (I realize that RBLs are semi-controversial, > > especially at t

Re: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Tuesday, November 09, 2004 17:04 +0100 martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: also sprach Dale E. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.09.1652 +0100]: With this approach you can't bounce RBLed messages at SMTP connect time though, right? (I realize that RBLs are semi-controversial, espe

RE: Value of backup MX

2004-11-09 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Tuesday, November 09, 2004 08:43 -0600 Steve Drees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd suggest having a backup MX but make sure you have all the filtering at your backup that you have at your primary. Unless you can check for valid users at the secondary, don't do it. Spammers will attempt to

Re: RFC 1035 - FQDM maximum char length for a domainname

2004-11-09 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > It concerns to a limit of 255 octals while one octal is equal > 3 bit They are talking about "octets", which stands for "eight bits". In ASCII representation, that's a character. Regards, Christoph -- Spare Space -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

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