Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 12:57:02PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > /etc/cron.daily is a conffile and will not be overwritten on upgrade > without dpkg asking you for permission. hmm... Strange. It happened twice on two different machines. I considered it a minor issue at the time. bob

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:19:52PM -0500, Bob Billson wrote: > > apache builds, I was suggesting that this could be an optional > > feature maybe made in /etc/apache/cron.conf, > > I agree. Why not file a "wishlist" bug report against apache? > > > /etc/cron.daily/apache is marked as a conf file,

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 05:28:00AM +1100, Jason Lim wrote: > Yeap, I already replied on that and posted the correct lines to change. Sorry, I was having a "mental moment". :) > apache builds, I was suggesting that this could be an optional feature > maybe made in /etc/apache/cron.conf, I agree.

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 12:57:02PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > /etc/cron.daily is a conffile and will not be overwritten on upgrade > without dpkg asking you for permission. hmm... Strange. It happened twice on two different machines. I considered it a minor issue at the time. bob

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:19:52PM -0500, Bob Billson wrote: > > apache builds, I was suggesting that this could be an optional > > feature maybe made in /etc/apache/cron.conf, > > I agree. Why not file a "wishlist" bug report against apache? > > > /etc/cron.daily/apache is marked as a conf file,

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 05:28:00AM +1100, Jason Lim wrote: > Yeap, I already replied on that and posted the correct lines to change. Sorry, I was having a "mental moment". :) > apache builds, I was suggesting that this could be an optional feature > maybe made in /etc/apache/cron.conf, I agree.

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Jason Lim
AIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:02 AM Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved) > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 01:16:03PM +1100, Jason Lim wrote: > > I know about that option... > > but it doesn't CHMOD... it only chowns. > > Right. And lo

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Jason Lim
AIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:02 AM Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved) > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 01:16:03PM +1100, Jason Lim wrote: > > I know about that option... > > but it doesn't CHMOD... it only chowns.

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 01:16:03PM +1100, Jason Lim wrote: > I know about that option... > but it doesn't CHMOD... it only chowns. Right. And look at /etc/cron.daily/apache. You'll see where owner/permissions are set depending on its value, as Pete said. Edit to suit your situation.

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 01:16:03PM +1100, Jason Lim wrote: > I know about that option... > but it doesn't CHMOD... it only chowns. Right. And look at /etc/cron.daily/apache. You'll see where owner/permissions are set depending on its value, as Pete said. Edit to suit your situation.

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-08 Thread Jason Lim
I know about that option... but it doesn't CHMOD... it only chowns. - Original Message - From: "Bob Billson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved) > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:05:17A

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-08 Thread Jason Lim
I know about that option... but it doesn't CHMOD... it only chowns. - Original Message - From: "Bob Billson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved) > On Sun, De

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-08 Thread Bob Billson
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:05:17AM +1100, Jason Lim wrote: > Perhaps Johnie could make this an optional setting in > /etc/apache/cron.conf or something like that...? There is: .# Whether to chown logfiles to the user/group Apache runs as. APACHE_CHOWN_LOGFILES=0 ^^ This shoul

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-08 Thread Jason Lim
n /etc/apache/cron.conf or something like that...? Sincerely, Jas - Original Message - From: "Peter Billson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour? >

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-08 Thread Bob Billson
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:05:17AM +1100, Jason Lim wrote: > Perhaps Johnie could make this an optional setting in > /etc/apache/cron.conf or something like that...? There is: .# Whether to chown logfiles to the user/group Apache runs as. APACHE_CHOWN_LOGFILES=0 ^^ This shou

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-08 Thread Peter Billson
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 1:52 AM > Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour? > > > Thats not very good security-wise to run webalizer as www-data, because > if > > a user ever finds a way to poison the log files, then webalizer will run > > them as www-data, an

Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-08 Thread Jason Lim
n /etc/apache/cron.conf or something like that...? Sincerely, Jas - Original Message - From: "Peter Billson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Strange

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-08 Thread Jason Lim
Anyone figured out my apache problem (log file permissions)? I still haven't figured this one out yet. TIA, Jas - Original Message - From: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour?

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-08 Thread Peter Billson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 1:52 AM > Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour? > > > Thats not very good security-wise to run webalizer as www-data, because > if > > a user ever finds a way to poison the log files, then webalizer will run >

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-08 Thread Jason Lim
Anyone figured out my apache problem (log file permissions)? I still haven't figured this one out yet. TIA, Jas - Original Message - From: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: Re: Strange

RE: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
We've thought about a small monthly fee that would include any requested features/etc. What do other folks do? - jsw -Original Message- From: Jeremy Lunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 4:26 AM To: James Cc: Jason Lim; debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: Re

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jason Lim
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour? > Hello ! > > > Do you know how to change the permissions of the log files apache > > generates? > > > > -

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jason Lim
om: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 7:41 PM Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour? > > It is usual to run webalizer as a user? I have never even thought of > doing that. Is there any particula

RE: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
We've thought about a small monthly fee that would include any requested features/etc. What do other folks do? - jsw -Original Message- From: Jeremy Lunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 4:26 AM To: James Cc: Jason Lim; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stra

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jason Lim
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour? > Hello ! > > > Do you know how to change the permissions of the log files apache > > generates? > > > > -

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jason Lim
om: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 7:41 PM Subject: Re: Strange apache behaviour? > > It is usual to run webalizer as a user? I have never even thought of > doing tha

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeremy Lunn
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 09:41:00AM +0100, James wrote: > It is usual to run webalizer as a user? I have never even thought of > doing that. Is there any particular reason? (security?) Generally it is a good idea to run everything you can as non-root. Come to think of it, I probably have webalizer

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread James
It is usual to run webalizer as a user? I have never even thought of doing that. Is there any particular reason? (security?) On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Jason Lim wrote: > Hi all, > > Do you know how to change the permissions of the log files apache > generates? > > -rw-r-1 www-data www-data

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeremy Lunn
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 09:41:00AM +0100, James wrote: > It is usual to run webalizer as a user? I have never even thought of > doing that. Is there any particular reason? (security?) Generally it is a good idea to run everything you can as non-root. Come to think of it, I probably have webalize

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread James
It is usual to run webalizer as a user? I have never even thought of doing that. Is there any particular reason? (security?) On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Jason Lim wrote: > Hi all, > > Do you know how to change the permissions of the log files apache > generates? > > -rw-r-1 www-data www-data

Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-06 Thread Jason Lim
Hi all, Do you know how to change the permissions of the log files apache generates? -rw-r-1 www-data www-data 1372461 Dec 7 13:04 apache-access.log -rw-r-1 www-data www-data 740269 Dec 2 06:21 apache-access.log.0 -rw-r-1 www-data www-data44414 Nov 25 05:52 apache

Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-06 Thread Jason Lim
Hi all, Do you know how to change the permissions of the log files apache generates? -rw-r-1 www-data www-data 1372461 Dec 7 13:04 apache-access.log -rw-r-1 www-data www-data 740269 Dec 2 06:21 apache-access.log.0 -rw-r-1 www-data www-data44414 Nov 25 05:52 apach