Re: Re: exim or postfix

2005-01-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op ma, 03-01-2005 te 17:28 -0300, schreef Ing. Jorge Escudero: What POP or IMAP or Web mail Server use to exim on Debian? I'm not entirely sure I understand your question correctly. Do you mean What POP or IMAP daemon can I use with exim on Debian? or rather, Is there a Web mail client I can

Re: Re: exim or postfix

2005-01-03 Thread Ing. Jorge Escudero
What POP or IMAP or Web mail Server use to exim on Debian? thanks you -- Ing. Jorge Escudero Seguridad Informática Unidad de Información Financiera Ministerio de Justicia Cerrito 264, 3er. piso 1010 - Capital Federal TE 4384-5981 int. 327 http://www.uif.gov.ar/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.11.12.0612 +0100]: And I get many legitimate e-mails with a bad HELO. In fact, I would argue that your rule here is wrong. If I send you an e-mail from my laptop, it is not going to send you an address of a server that can receive mail (or has

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-12 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Friday 12 November 2004 07.47, Craig Sanders wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:12:34AM +, John Goerzen wrote: 4 ETRN Weird, people are just sending ETRN commands to you? me too. One is a mail server of a respected company that is apparently misconfigured, and has been for a

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-12 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 10:09:36AM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: On Friday 12 November 2004 07.47, Craig Sanders wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:12:34AM +, John Goerzen wrote: 4 ETRN Weird, people are just sending ETRN commands to you? me too.

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-12 Thread John Goerzen
every message in about 2 seconds. Plus, I have Exim configured to queue only once my load exceeds 2.5 (meaning that incoming messages are scanned, then queued for the next queue run, rather than being delivered immediately), which means that load never gets much above that. (Mail is really the only

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Saturday 06 November 2004 22:19, Rodney Richison wrote: Are most of you using exim or postfix? Just curious. I've never tried exim. neither. courier-mta. just starting to have some production experience, and so far i like it quite a bit. i chose it because it has everything integrated

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread John Goerzen
I just switched from Postfix to Exim. I am now a big fan of Exim. http://changelog.complete.org/articles/2004/11/08/latest-experiment-exim/ http://changelog.complete.org/articles/2004/11/11/exim-transition-successful/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread mailinglists
On Saturday 06 November 2004 22:19, Rodney Richison wrote: Are most of you using exim or postfix? Just curious. I've never tried exim. i use postfix/courier-imap,pop3/maildrop/sqwebmail with amavisd-new, clamav, spamassasin, razor and pyzor. mysql is my userdatabase and postfixadmin my

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 09:25:52PM +, John Goerzen wrote: I just switched from Postfix to Exim. I am now a big fan of Exim. http://changelog.complete.org/articles/2004/11/08/latest-experiment-exim/ http://changelog.complete.org/articles/2004/11/11/exim-transition-successful/ glad

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Thursday 11 November 2004 17:04, Craig Sanders wrote: 22256 Bad HELO wow. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Kilian Krause
(SpamAssassin, for example, could take ages to complete regardless of whether it's run from exim or postfix...especially if it's doing DNSRBL and other remote lookups), and he recommends that you don't do it. other MTAs blithely ignore the potential problem and tell you to go ahead and do

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread John Goerzen
memory hog, leaves files all over on the disk, etc, etc, etc. the filter takes too long to run (SpamAssassin, for example, could take ages to complete regardless of whether it's run from exim or postfix...especially if it's doing DNSRBL and other remote lookups), and he recommends that you don't

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 05:12:10PM -0500, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: On Thursday 11 November 2004 17:04, Craig Sanders wrote: 22256 Bad HELO wow. most of them being spammers trying to use my IP address or a bogus domain name in the HELO/EHLO string. and most of them from Korea. most of

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:12:34AM +, John Goerzen wrote: 2. postfix does support filtering during the SMTP transaction. the difference is that the postfix author tells you up front that it is inherently problematic (for *ANY* MTA, not just postfix) because of the potential for

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-10 Thread Craig Sanders
can now deal with in ~ 3 lines in the exim config. my guess is that you just know exim better than postfix, so things that an experienced postfix user would find easy aren't as easy for you as just using exim. all of the things you listed as benefits of exim, my first thought

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-10 Thread martin f krafft
spamassassin. that's part of an LDA's job. I agree. But exim can do it. And even though this is the LDA part of it, postfix also includes an LDA, which is just not up to speed. even on the simplest level, a .forward file which pipes to SA is executed under the UID of the user. ... not manageable

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.11.10.1014 +0100]: I agree. But exim can do it. And even though this is the LDA part of it, postfix also includes an LDA, which is just not up to speed. and postfix can do it too. No, it cannot, unless you use spamassassin as the LDA

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-10 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 11:09:47AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.11.10.1014 +0100]: I agree. But exim can do it. And even though this is the LDA part of it, postfix also includes an LDA, which is just not up to speed. and postfix can

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 01:40:30PM +, Brett Parker wrote: There have been some very simple things that I've needed to find solutions to with postfix in the past which I ended up having to do with procmail that I can now deal with in ~ 3 lines in the exim config. my guess is that you just

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.11.10.0010 +0100]: There have been some very simple things that I've needed to find solutions to with postfix in the past which I ended up having to do with procmail that I can now deal with in ~ 3 lines in the exim config. my guess

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-07 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Rodney Richison said on Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 09:19:40PM -0600: Are most of you using exim or postfix? Just curious. I've never tried exim. Don't know about most; I use Postfix. I don't think exim is a bad choice, though; I just liked Postfix better, and it performs well enough to meet my

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-07 Thread Brett Parker
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 09:19:40PM -0600, Rodney Richison wrote: Are most of you using exim or postfix? Just curious. I've never tried exim. exim4 and postfix, depending on the machine, and who origionally set it up. New machines are getting exim4 because it is far more flexible and powerful

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mark Ferlatte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.11.07.1013 +0100]: Don't know about most; I use Postfix. I don't think exim is a bad choice, though; I just liked Postfix better, and it performs well enough to meet my needs. Well said. also sprach Brett Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-07 Thread Brett Parker
that postfix (in my experience). Well, my last tests have shown postfix to be more performant by about a factor of 1.6. In addition, there is the single setuid binary thing about exim. You are right that exim has a lot more features than postfix. However, are they needed? To me, exim tries

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brett Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.11.07.1440 +0100]: Then, I've always prefered exim, I like having control at my finger tips, and things to do what I expect :) Ha! Flamebait! Consider yourself whacked. I won't even respond to this. :) /me embraces /etc/postfix/main.cf Just

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-07 Thread Teófilo Ruiz Suárez
On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 02:02:35PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: [...] I can't wait until I have time to try/use/improve Md's policy framework. Do you have an URL with more info about that policy framework?. Thanks, -- teo - http://blog.eltridente.org Res publica non dominetur -- To

Re: exim or postfix

2004-11-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Teófilo Ruiz Suárez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.11.07.1529 +0100]: Do you have an URL with more info about that policy framework?. Not handy. Please write to md ät linux dot it, he's the author. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f.

exim or postfix

2004-11-06 Thread Rodney Richison
Are most of you using exim or postfix? Just curious. I've never tried exim. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Exim conditions for attachments

2004-10-01 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Craig Schneider said: (redirecting this back to the list - I read the list, so you can send replies there.) Hi Stephen Thanks for the help dude. Do you mean like this? Or incorporate it into the condition somehow? # deny message = User is unable to

Exim conditions for attachments

2004-09-30 Thread Craig Schneider
Hi Guys I have wrtten a condition to check if a user is in a flat text file, if so then allow them NOT to receive attachments of a certain type. However I need to put a condition in to allow them to receive from the $local_domain. Heres what I have so far: # deny message = User is unable to

Re: Exim conditions for attachments

2004-09-30 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Craig Schneider said: Hi Guys I have wrtten a condition to check if a user is in a flat text file, if so then allow them NOT to receive attachments of a certain type. However I need to put a condition in to allow them to receive from the $local_domain. Heres

RE: Exim 4.20 + Mailman

2004-06-02 Thread Dan Ros
Title: RE: Exim 4.20 + Mailman -Original Message- From: Kenny Duffus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 June 2004 10:34 To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Exim 4.20 + Mailman Has anyone set up Exim 4.20 and mailman successfully and if so do you mind if I

Exim 4.20 + Mailman

2004-06-01 Thread David Ross
Hi Has anyone set up Exim 4.20 and mailman successfully and if so do you mind if I take a look at your exim.conf? I've done this before with Exim 3 but am struggling to find working examples for exim4. Thanks Dave

Re: Exim 4.20 + Mailman

2004-06-01 Thread Kenny Duffus
On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 10:25:03AM +0200, David Ross wrote: Hi Has anyone set up Exim 4.20 and mailman successfully and if so do you mind if I take a look at your exim.conf? I've done this before with Exim 3 but am struggling to find working examples for exim4. Hi I followed the howto

Question about Exim

2004-05-21 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
Greetings everyone, I set up an Exim mail filter file containing the following: # Exim filter if $h_X-Amavis-Hold contains then freeze endif Is there a better condition that will test just for the existence of the header? I have tried def: without any luck. If anyone knows how

Question about Exim

2004-05-21 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
Greetings everyone, I set up an Exim mail filter file containing the following: # Exim filter if $h_X-Amavis-Hold contains then freeze endif Is there a better condition that will test just for the existence of the header? I have tried def: without any luck. If anyone knows how

Courier + MySQL (was exim+mysql)

2004-05-19 Thread Rod Rodolico
Still working on the virtual domains using MySQL. Found an excellent article at http://www.tty1.net/virtual_domains_en.html if anyone is interested. My problem is with Courier. I installed the courier-authmysql package, followed the info in :/usr/share/doc/courier-authmysql, then threw it all

Courier + MySQL (was exim+mysql)

2004-05-18 Thread Rod Rodolico
Still working on the virtual domains using MySQL. Found an excellent article at http://www.tty1.net/virtual_domains_en.html if anyone is interested. My problem is with Courier. I installed the courier-authmysql package, followed the info in :/usr/share/doc/courier-authmysql, then threw it all

Exim + MySQL

2004-05-17 Thread Rod Rodolico
Does anyone know if MySQL is built into the debian release of Exim? I put the following line in my configuration file and get an unknown command error. I think I did this correctly. hide mysql_servers = localhost/email/email/email Rod

Re: Catchall for Exim 3.35

2004-05-02 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Adam Dawes said: Hi all, I'm doing some spam research and need to configure my exim so that it accepts all incoming mail and shunts those with invalid addresses into a catchall address. Basically, I want to mimick how Exchange servers accept everything. I

Catchall for Exim 3.35

2004-04-30 Thread Adam Dawes
Hi all, I'm doing some spam research and need to configure my exim so that it accepts all incoming mail and shunts those with invalid addresses into a catchall address. Basically, I want to mimick how Exchange servers accept everything. I believe the following will do it for Exim 4, but when

Re: Exim AUTH with PAM - pls. HELP

2004-04-15 Thread Johannes Formann
Maarten Vink / Interstroom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johannes Formann wrote: I bett exim can't read /etc/shadow, make it readable to exim, oder compile and install pam_exim. IIRC, you need to run Exim as root to enable PAM functionality. With pam_exim you don't :-) regards Johannes

Re: Exim AUTH with PAM - pls. HELP

2004-04-15 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:35:21PM +0200, Johannes Formann wrote: MINTA GHEORGHE ADRIAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I try to setup an exim mail server with PAM auth. against system passwords. Unfortunately the authentification doesn't work: I bett exim can't read /etc/shadow, make it readable

Re: Exim AUTH with PAM - pls. HELP

2004-04-15 Thread Maarten Vink / Interstroom
Johannes Formann wrote: Franz Georg Köhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bett exim can't read /etc/shadow, make it readable to exim, oder compile and install pam_exim. IIRC, you need to run Exim as root to enable PAM functionality. Regards, Maarten

Re: Exim AUTH with PAM - pls. HELP

2004-04-15 Thread Johannes Formann
Maarten Vink / Interstroom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johannes Formann wrote: I bett exim can't read /etc/shadow, make it readable to exim, oder compile and install pam_exim. IIRC, you need to run Exim as root to enable PAM functionality. With pam_exim you don't :-) regards Johannes

Re: Exim AUTH with PAM - pls. HELP

2004-04-15 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:35:21PM +0200, Johannes Formann wrote: MINTA GHEORGHE ADRIAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I try to setup an exim mail server with PAM auth. against system passwords. Unfortunately the authentification doesn't work: I bett exim can't read /etc/shadow, make it readable

Exim AUTH with PAM - pls. HELP

2004-04-14 Thread MINTA GHEORGHE ADRIAN
I try to setup an exim mail server with PAM auth. against system passwords. Unfortunately the authentification doesn't work: /var/log/exim/mail.log: localhost PAM_unix[2271]: authentication failure; (uid=8) - gygy for exim service Because the exim version in woody is very old is not suported

Exim AUTH with PAM - pls. HELP

2004-04-14 Thread MINTA GHEORGHE ADRIAN
I try to setup an exim mail server with PAM auth. against system passwords. Unfortunately the authentification doesn't work: /var/log/exim/mail.log: localhost PAM_unix[2271]: authentication failure; (uid=8) - gygy for exim service Because the exim version in woody is very old is not suported

Re: Exim AUTH with PAM - pls. HELP

2004-04-14 Thread Johannes Formann
MINTA GHEORGHE ADRIAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I try to setup an exim mail server with PAM auth. against system passwords. Unfortunately the authentification doesn't work: I bett exim can't read /etc/shadow, make it readable to exim, oder compile and install pam_exim. regards Johannes

Re: Exim AUTH with PAM - pls. HELP

2004-04-14 Thread Franz Georg Khler
On Mi, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:35:21 +0200, Johannes Formann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MINTA GHEORGHE ADRIAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I try to setup an exim mail server with PAM auth. against system passwords. Unfortunately the authentification doesn't work: I bett exim can't read /etc/shadow

Re: Exim AUTH with PAM - pls. HELP

2004-04-14 Thread Johannes Formann
Franz Georg Köhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bett exim can't read /etc/shadow, make it readable to exim, oder compile and install pam_exim. He's already using PAM authentification... Not pam_exim, which makes a difference. regards Johannes

Techniques for outbound spam filtering with Exim?

2004-02-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
I'm looking to setup outbound spam filtering via Exim (preferably with SpamAssassin). What sorts of techniques are folks using to do this? We're currently running Exim 3.xx but upgrading isn't a big deal if necessary. We already have spamc/spamd handling inbound mail via procmail. But I'm

Re: Techniques for outbound spam filtering with Exim?

2004-02-09 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Jeremy Zawodny schrieb am 09.02.04 um 18:05 Uhr: I'm looking to setup outbound spam filtering via Exim (preferably with SpamAssassin). What sorts of techniques are folks using to do this? We're currently running Exim 3.xx but upgrading isn't a big deal if necessary. We already have spamc

Re: Techniques for outbound spam filtering with Exim?

2004-02-09 Thread listas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El 09/02/2004, a las 18:05, Jeremy Zawodny escribió: I'm looking to setup outbound spam filtering via Exim (preferably with SpamAssassin). What sorts of techniques are folks using to do this? We're currently running Exim 3.xx but upgrading isn't

Techniques for outbound spam filtering with Exim?

2004-02-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
I'm looking to setup outbound spam filtering via Exim (preferably with SpamAssassin). What sorts of techniques are folks using to do this? We're currently running Exim 3.xx but upgrading isn't a big deal if necessary. We already have spamc/spamd handling inbound mail via procmail. But I'm

Re: Techniques for outbound spam filtering with Exim?

2004-02-09 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Jeremy Zawodny schrieb am 09.02.04 um 18:05 Uhr: I'm looking to setup outbound spam filtering via Exim (preferably with SpamAssassin). What sorts of techniques are folks using to do this? We're currently running Exim 3.xx but upgrading isn't a big deal if necessary. We already have spamc

Re: Techniques for outbound spam filtering with Exim?

2004-02-09 Thread listas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El 09/02/2004, a las 18:05, Jeremy Zawodny escribió: I'm looking to setup outbound spam filtering via Exim (preferably with SpamAssassin). What sorts of techniques are folks using to do this? We're currently running Exim 3.xx but upgrading isn't a big

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-30 Thread Ronny Adsetts
Joey Hess said the following on 29/01/04 21:48: Ronny Adsetts wrote: The original poster is simply not keeping his queue clean of frozen messages. Shouldn't that be the MTA's job? I never understood why exim has such brain-dead defaults as requring an admin to manually deal with frozen messages

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-30 Thread tps
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:37:07PM +0100, Thomas GOIRAND wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:54 AM Subject: Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input

Stopping Exim from sending Message frozen messages...

2004-01-30 Thread Joe Emenaker
Okay since I had a 3-year-old Exim configuration file, I decided to take a brand-new one and then use diff to find what I needed to move over. Hopefully now, it is rejecting bad recipients at SMTP time. However, it's also sending me Message frozen messages every time it freezes something

Re: Stopping Exim from sending Message frozen messages...

2004-01-30 Thread Marcin Sochacki
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 01:14:43PM -0800, Joe Emenaker wrote: Okay since I had a 3-year-old Exim configuration file, I decided to take a brand-new one and then use diff to find what I needed to move over. Hopefully now, it is rejecting bad recipients at SMTP time. However, it's also

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 03:35:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have the results after all this time. Exim beat postfix in raw speed of moving mail in and/or out by over 15%. that must be specific to your particular hardware and/or usage, because it's contrary to every other postfix

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-30 Thread tps
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:43:39AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 03:35:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have the results after all this time. Exim beat postfix in raw speed of moving mail in and/or out by over 15%. that must be specific to your particular

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 08:38:36PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, if you want the most blazingly fast mailer, use zmailer. It's just not a general purpose MTA true. For our mailman server, all mail goes to our zmailer (dedicated) machine, and BOY does that mail just fly outa

Re: Exim: Different mail retry times depending upon response from remote host...

2004-01-30 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:58, Joe Emenaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because, like you mentioned later in your message, not all mailers give proper responses. For example, I've see a lot of 5xx codes where the verbal explanation is that the user is over quota. 5xx is the correct thing to do when

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-30 Thread Ronny Adsetts
Joey Hess said the following on 29/01/04 21:48: Ronny Adsetts wrote: The original poster is simply not keeping his queue clean of frozen messages. Shouldn't that be the MTA's job? I never understood why exim has such brain-dead defaults as requring an admin to manually deal with frozen messages

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-30 Thread tps
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:37:07PM +0100, Thomas GOIRAND wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:54 AM Subject: Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim

Stopping Exim from sending Message frozen messages...

2004-01-30 Thread Joe Emenaker
Okay since I had a 3-year-old Exim configuration file, I decided to take a brand-new one and then use diff to find what I needed to move over. Hopefully now, it is rejecting bad recipients at SMTP time. However, it's also sending me Message frozen messages every time it freezes something

Re: Stopping Exim from sending Message frozen messages...

2004-01-30 Thread Marcin Sochacki
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 01:14:43PM -0800, Joe Emenaker wrote: Okay since I had a 3-year-old Exim configuration file, I decided to take a brand-new one and then use diff to find what I needed to move over. Hopefully now, it is rejecting bad recipients at SMTP time. However, it's also

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 03:35:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have the results after all this time. Exim beat postfix in raw speed of moving mail in and/or out by over 15%. that must be specific to your particular hardware and/or usage, because it's contrary to every other postfix

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-30 Thread tps
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:43:39AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 03:35:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have the results after all this time. Exim beat postfix in raw speed of moving mail in and/or out by over 15%. that must be specific to your particular

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 08:38:36PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, if you want the most blazingly fast mailer, use zmailer. It's just not a general purpose MTA true. For our mailman server, all mail goes to our zmailer (dedicated) machine, and BOY does that mail just fly outa

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Maarten Vink / Interstroom
understand Exim4 does now but too late for me), and also because it has a variety of authentication methods. FWIW, Exim 3 supports authentication as well... We're using: Exim version 3.35 #1 built 05-Sep-2003 13:52:12 Copyright (c) University of Cambridge 2001 If anyone needs help setting this up

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Ronny Adsetts
Craig Sanders said the following on 28/01/04 23:36: i can't answer your question, but here's some relevant advice for you: exim doesn't scale. if you want performance, switch to postfix. On what do you base this conlusion? Several large ISP's in the UK use exim that I know of which seems

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:03:35AM +, Ronny Adsetts wrote: Craig Sanders said the following on 28/01/04 23:36: i can't answer your question, but here's some relevant advice for you: exim doesn't scale. if you want performance, switch to postfix. On what do you base this conlusion

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Ronny Adsetts
Craig Sanders said the following on 29/01/04 11:31: On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:03:35AM +, Ronny Adsetts wrote: Craig Sanders said the following on 28/01/04 23:36: i can't answer your question, but here's some relevant advice for you: exim doesn't scale. if you want performance, switch

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Thomas GOIRAND
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:54 AM Subject: Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input? On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:36:29AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: i can't

Re: Exim: Different mail retry times depending upon response from remote host...

2004-01-29 Thread Joe Emenaker
Craig Sanders wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 07:23:50PM -0800, Joe Emenaker wrote: Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything in Exim that lets you customize it's retry behavior based upon this. It does offer an error field in the retry section, but it's only for some silly hard-coded failure

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Joey Hess
Ronny Adsetts wrote: The original poster is simply not keeping his queue clean of frozen messages. Shouldn't that be the MTA's job? I never understood why exim has such brain-dead defaults as requring an admin to manually deal with frozen messages. Every other MTA I have ever used has not even

Re: Exim: Different mail retry times depending upon response from remote host...

2004-01-29 Thread Craig Sanders
, that's normal (at least, it is not wrong to do that). what to do in an excess-quota situation is a local policy decision. some sites choose 5xx, some choose 4xx. But the *real* problem, I guess, is that I'm seeing so many 5xx's in /var/spool/exim/msglog at *all*. you shouldn't be seeing *ANY

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:37:07PM +0100, Thomas GOIRAND wrote: Not looking for a fight either, but... ALL the MTAs? What are the results for qmail then? I've always heard it's the fastest... no, postfix beats it. qmail WAS the fastest several years ago. then postfix arrived. craig -- To

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 06:47:16PM -0500, Dale E Martin wrote: exim doesn't scale. if you want performance, switch to postfix. Is there good documentation available for postfix? Last time I looked I could not find anything close to the quality of exim's. I'd be happy if that has changed

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Blu
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 10:35:57AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:37:07PM +0100, Thomas GOIRAND wrote: Not looking for a fight either, but... ALL the MTAs? What are the results for qmail then? I've always heard it's the fastest... no, postfix beats it. qmail WAS

Re: Exim: Different mail retry times depending upon response from remote host...

2004-01-29 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:58, Joe Emenaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because, like you mentioned later in your message, not all mailers give proper responses. For example, I've see a lot of 5xx codes where the verbal explanation is that the user is over quota. 5xx is the correct thing to do when

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Maarten Vink / Interstroom
understand Exim4 does now but too late for me), and also because it has a variety of authentication methods. FWIW, Exim 3 supports authentication as well... We're using: Exim version 3.35 #1 built 05-Sep-2003 13:52:12 Copyright (c) University of Cambridge 2001 If anyone needs help setting this up

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Ronny Adsetts
Craig Sanders said the following on 28/01/04 23:36: i can't answer your question, but here's some relevant advice for you: exim doesn't scale. if you want performance, switch to postfix. On what do you base this conlusion? Several large ISP's in the UK use exim that I know of which seems

Re: Exim: Different mail retry times depending upon response from remote host...

2004-01-29 Thread Craig Sanders
. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything in Exim that lets you customize it's retry behavior based upon this. It does offer an error field in the retry section, but it's only for some silly hard-coded failure types. why should there be? All 5xx codes are permanent failures. the MTA should bounce back

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:03:35AM +, Ronny Adsetts wrote: Craig Sanders said the following on 28/01/04 23:36: i can't answer your question, but here's some relevant advice for you: exim doesn't scale. if you want performance, switch to postfix. On what do you base this conlusion

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Ronny Adsetts
Craig Sanders said the following on 29/01/04 11:31: On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:03:35AM +, Ronny Adsetts wrote: Craig Sanders said the following on 28/01/04 23:36: i can't answer your question, but here's some relevant advice for you: exim doesn't scale. if you want performance, switch

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Thomas GOIRAND
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:54 AM Subject: Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input? On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:36:29AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Joey Hess
Ronny Adsetts wrote: The original poster is simply not keeping his queue clean of frozen messages. Shouldn't that be the MTA's job? I never understood why exim has such brain-dead defaults as requring an admin to manually deal with frozen messages. Every other MTA I have ever used has not even

Re: Exim: Different mail retry times depending upon response from remote host...

2004-01-29 Thread Craig Sanders
, that's normal (at least, it is not wrong to do that). what to do in an excess-quota situation is a local policy decision. some sites choose 5xx, some choose 4xx. But the *real* problem, I guess, is that I'm seeing so many 5xx's in /var/spool/exim/msglog at *all*. you shouldn't be seeing *ANY

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:37:07PM +0100, Thomas GOIRAND wrote: Not looking for a fight either, but... ALL the MTAs? What are the results for qmail then? I've always heard it's the fastest... no, postfix beats it. qmail WAS the fastest several years ago. then postfix arrived. craig

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 06:47:16PM -0500, Dale E Martin wrote: exim doesn't scale. if you want performance, switch to postfix. Is there good documentation available for postfix? Last time I looked I could not find anything close to the quality of exim's. I'd be happy if that has changed

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-29 Thread Blu
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 10:35:57AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:37:07PM +0100, Thomas GOIRAND wrote: Not looking for a fight either, but... ALL the MTAs? What are the results for qmail then? I've always heard it's the fastest... no, postfix beats it. qmail WAS

Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-28 Thread Joe Emenaker
Here's a question that has always been bugging me. Ever since we moved from smail to exim many years ago at my isp, exim never seems to discard messages in the input queue. Even though the single retry rule is the stock one (which retrys for something like 4 days), we end up with stuff

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-28 Thread Maarten Vink
Joe Emenaker wrote: Here's a question that has always been bugging me. Ever since we moved from smail to exim many years ago at my isp, exim never seems to discard messages in the input queue. Even though the single retry rule is the stock one (which retrys for something like 4 days), we end

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-28 Thread Marcin Sochacki
are probably marked by Exim as frozen. Search for that term in Exim's documentation for more info. You may enable Exim to automatically remove frozen messages after some period with the following directive: timeout_frozen_after = 3d Marcin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Why doesn't Exim ever clean out /var/spool/exim/input?

2004-01-28 Thread Joe Emenaker
Maarten Vink wrote: Does the output of the mailq command provide any useful information about these messages? My first guess would be that you're dealing with frozen messages Yup. A lot of them are frozen. If that is the case, have a look at the timeout_frozen_after setting; this will

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