Re: Webserver with RAID-5 - performance problem

2004-12-15 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Wednesday, December 15, 2004 08:53 +0100 Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We have a new server which we want to use as a webserver. The following hardware components are included: - Intel XEON 3GHz - 2GB RAM - Intel SRCU42L RAID Controller SCSI - 3 Fujitsu u320 SCSI discs in a

Re: Webserver with RAID-5 - performance problem

2004-12-15 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Wednesday, December 15, 2004 13:38 +0100 Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 02:40:37AM -0700, Michael Loftis wrote: Additionally Linux uses 128K disk I/O blocks, if you've built your RAID array with any other size stripe you may suffer p

Re: Webserver with RAID-5 - performance problem

2004-12-15 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 02:40:37AM -0700, Michael Loftis wrote: > Additionally Linux uses 128K disk I/O > blocks, if you've built your RAID array with any other size stripe you may > suffer pathological performance loss. Do you mean that that driver uses such blocks, or that l

Re: Webserver with RAID-5 - performance problem

2004-12-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op wo, 15-12-2004 te 08:53 +0100, schreef Andrej: > The problem is, that we've been running hdparm on the RAID device with > these result: > > hdparm -t /dev/sda > /dev/sda: > Timing buffered disk reads: 138 MB in 3.04 seconds = 45.39 MB/sec > > > Th

Webserver with RAID-5 - performance problem

2004-12-14 Thread Andrej
We have a new server which we want to use as a webserver. The following hardware components are included: - Intel XEON 3GHz - 2GB RAM - Intel SRCU42L RAID Controller SCSI - 3 Fujitsu u320 SCSI discs in a RAID-5 array We've installed Debian Sarge. The problem is, that we've been running

Re: SCSI Raid Controller recommendations

2004-12-04 Thread Rod Rodolico
Thanks for the help. Have to get this box up pretty rapidly, so I decided to just do software RAID. However, am going to order a couple of cards and test them so the next time I'll have something I'm comfortable with. I will definitely get one of the LSI's, and probably one of the

Re: SCSI Raid Controller recommendations

2004-12-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
s Windows and Linux are concerned, the same holds for Intel's Server RAID adapters. Debian included. > They're fast cards, and fairly reasonably priced. Hmm... "fast" ain't exactly true for the lower-end Intel RAID adapters :P and whether you consider Intel hardw

Re: SCSI Raid Controller recommendations

2004-12-03 Thread Michael Loftis
The only RAID Cards I recommend anymore are the ICP Vortex cards. They've got a good product line, tools and monitoring available for basically every OS, they are FULLY online. You can get into the configuration area from within your host OS, be it Windows, DOS, FreeBSD, Linux, Netware

SCSI Raid Controller recommendations

2004-12-03 Thread Rod Rodolico
Can anyone recommend a scsi raid controller for debian. I like the serveraid from IBM, but, when I last built a box with this, the monitoring software was only for Redhat and stuff. Fairly small box. Probably 3 18.6G in a RAID-5 is all I need. And, U160 would be fine, as would PCI-32. But, I

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E & 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-15 Thread Dave Watkins
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Dave Watkins wrote: > > >>The reason i2c won't work on these boards is because they use IPMI >>rather than i2c and have a BMC on them which does much more in the way >>of management than desktop type boards >> >> > >Well, if it is anyt

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E & 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Dave Watkins wrote: > The reason i2c won't work on these boards is because they use IPMI > rather than i2c and have a BMC on them which does much more in the way > of management than desktop type boards Well, if it is anything like SE750x boards, you need to first setup the en

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E & 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Dave Watkins
Achim Schmidt wrote: >Am Do, 2004-10-14 um 22.01 schrieb Franz Georg Köhler: > > >>Isn't i2c supposed to be standardized? >> >> >> > >today i had to speak to their support and the hint given was to take the >redhats rpm and create a own deb using alien :/ Further i was told using >lm_senors

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E & 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Simon Buchanan said on Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 08:20:15AM +1300: > Hi There, I am looking to deploy some 1U rack servers based on the Intel > Entry Server Platform SR1325TP1-E, but using a 3ware Escalade 9500S-4LP > hardware raid with 3 x SATA 200GB drives (RAID 5) instead of the onboard

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E & 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Achim Schmidt
won't work because the board is optimized for ISM... > We are running a lot of boxes with 3ware 7000 series SATA-RAID without > experiencing any difficulties (as we did with mylex). > > Where did you get the 3ware utilities for linux? http://www.3ware.com/support/download.asp?code=8

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E & 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Franz Georg Köhler
On Do, Okt 14, 2004 at 09:30:13 +0200, Achim Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Simon, > > We recently installed a intel SR1325TP1-E with a 3ware 7000-SATA-RAID > running sarge - no problems with RAID - 3ware-software (RAID-cli and > management via webserver works fine)

Intel SR1325TP1-E & 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Simon Buchanan
Hi There, I am looking to deploy some 1U rack servers based on the Intel Entry Server Platform SR1325TP1-E, but using a 3ware Escalade 9500S-4LP hardware raid with 3 x SATA 200GB drives (RAID 5) instead of the onboard stuff (as i have heard there are some problems with compatability here

Re: Intel SR1325TP1-E & 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Achim Schmidt
Hi Simon, We recently installed a intel SR1325TP1-E with a 3ware 7000-SATA-RAID running sarge - no problems with RAID - 3ware-software (RAID-cli and management via webserver works fine) - but unfortunatelly "Intels Server Management 5.*" does not support debian (better said no other lin

Intel SR1325TP1-E & 3ware 9xxx RAID thoughts

2004-10-14 Thread Simon Buchanan
Hi There, I am looking to deploy some 1U rack servers based on the Intel Entry Server Platform SR1325TP1-E, but using a 3ware Escalade 9500S-4LP hardware raid with 3 x SATA 200GB drives (RAID 5) instead of the onboard stuff (as i have heard there are some problems with compatability here

RAID 1 - mdadm - Different UUID

2004-10-04 Thread Agustín Ciciliani
Hi, Everytime I boot my system It says that my partitions have different UUID. If anybody know what I can do about it... Thanks in advance, Agustín -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-20 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:37, Josh Bonnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Do you have benchmark results to support this assertion? Last time I > > tested the performance of software RAID-1 on Linux I was unable to get > > anywhere near 2x disk speed for writing. > > N

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-20 Thread Josh Bonnett
P3-650 machines that could sustain a 1296MB/s IO load (that requires more than two 64bit 66MHz PCI buses). Machines that can handle such an IO load have faster CPUs. So for any but the very biggest machines there is no chance of CPU performance being a problem for RAID-5. For really big machines

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:54, Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any up-to-date "State of the RAID Nation" statement? I'd hate > to start digging into RAID code only to find that RAID Mk.2 was going to > replace everything I'd been looking at

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-13 Thread Donovan Baarda
ements in this > area! Is there any up-to-date "State of the RAID Nation" statement? I'd hate to start digging into RAID code only to find that RAID Mk.2 was going to replace everything I'd been looking at. -- Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://minkirri.ap

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:32, "Donovan Baarda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ummm... Bit confused here, but RAID 1 is not faster, than a single disk. > > RAID one is just for 'safety' purposes. Yes, you do have 2 disks, but > > in an > > ideal wor

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:39, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I really substantiate my assumtption, Russel's right, in theory: in > RAID1, you *do* have 2 disks, so reading 2 independent files *should* be > possible without too much seeking. > > But OTOH you mi

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:20, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Machines that can handle such an IO load have faster CPUs. So for any > > but the very biggest machines there is no chance of CPU performance being > > a problem for R

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-13 Thread Donovan Baarda
G'day again, From: "Andrew Miehs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > Ummm... Bit confused here, but RAID 1 is not faster, than a single disk. > RAID one is just for 'safety' purposes. Yes, you do have 2 disks, but > in an > ideal world, they will both be s

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:55, Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you have benchmark results to support this assertion? Last time I > > tested the performance of software RAID-1 on Linux I was unable to get > > anywhere near 2x disk speed for writing. I

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:39, Andrew Miehs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ummm... Bit confused here, but RAID 1 is not faster, than a single disk. RAID-1 in the strict definition has two disks with the same data. In the modern loose definition it means two or more disks with the same data

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-12 Thread Andrew Miehs
Hi all, Ummm... Bit confused here, but RAID 1 is not faster, than a single disk. RAID one is just for 'safety' purposes. Yes, you do have 2 disks, but in an ideal world, they will both be synced with one another, and both be doing exactly the same thing at the same time. If you want

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-12 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Monday 13 September 2004 01.55, Donovan Baarda wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 00:41, Russell Coker wrote: [reading 2 files from RAID1] While I really substantiate my assumtption, Russel's right, in theory: in RAID1, you *do* have 2 disks, so reading 2 independent files *should* be possible w

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-12 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 00:41, Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 23:35, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Do you have benchmark results to support this assertion? Last time I tested > the performance of software RAID-1

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-12 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
U performance being > a problem for RAID-5. You certainly have more experience than I - I was thinking about machines where the CPU is already heavily loaded by userspace tasks, where the additional load from RAID5 might be a poblem. Don't know for certain, though. [me being silly] > I

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-12 Thread Russell Coker
nes that could sustain a 1296MB/s IO load (that requires more than two 64bit 66MHz PCI buses). Machines that can handle such an IO load have faster CPUs. So for any but the very biggest machines there is no chance of CPU performance being a problem for RAID-5. For really big machines there is a

Re: RAID 1 HELP!!!

2004-09-09 Thread Agustín Ciciliani
Dear Lucas, I tried with linear and my debian just boot! I'm sending to you my lilo.conf file (in case it seems to you useful for your how-to with LILO) after making some changes that "lilo-doc" recommended for raid booting. As I thought it couldn't be the only problem... C

Re: Boot on 'RAID 1' with 'LILO' and 'mdadm'

2004-09-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:14:03 -0600 (MDT), Lucas wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Arnt Karlsen said: > > ..play with this: > > #!/bin/sh > > /bin/cp -f /usr/share/grub/i386-pc/* /boot/grub > > /usr/sbin/grub --batch < /dev/null 2> /dev/null > > # device (hd0) /dev/hda > > # device (hd1) /d

Re: Boot on 'RAID 1' with 'LILO' and 'mdadm'

2004-09-08 Thread Lucas Albers
Arnt Karlsen said: > ..play with this: > #!/bin/sh > /bin/cp -f /usr/share/grub/i386-pc/* /boot/grub > /usr/sbin/grub --batch < /dev/null 2> /dev/null > # device (hd0) /dev/hda > # device (hd1) /dev/hdc > device (md0) /dev/md0 > root (md0,0) > # setup (hd0) #installs onto /dev/hda > # setup (hd2)

Re: Boot on "RAID 1" with "LILO" and "mdadm"

2004-09-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 18:17:56 +0200, maarten MAEEELED!!! in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wednesday 08 September 2004 05:11, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:33:13 -0300, Agustín wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Could you send me your lilo.conf configuratio

Re: Boot on "RAID 1" with "LILO" and "mdadm"

2004-09-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:33:13 -0300, Agustín wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Arnt Karlsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:10 PM >

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-07 Thread Chris Wagner
At 08:07 PM 9/7/04 +0800, Jason Lim wrote: >> "Currently only supports Windows XP, 2000, & 2003 >I'm guessing since it is completely OS transparent it should work... not >that I have used it. > >I have been wondering about the merits of using OS-transparent RAI

Re: Boot on "RAID 1" with "LILO" and "mdadm"

2004-09-07 Thread Agustín Ciciliani
Dear Arnt, Thank you very much for your reply! Could you send me your lilo.conf configuration to compare it with mine? Agustín - Original Message - From: "Arnt Karlsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:10 PM Subjec

Re: Boot on "RAID 1" with "LILO" and "mdadm"

2004-09-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:25:49 -0300, Agustín wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Everybody! > > I'm trying to run a bootable RAID 1. I'm using mdadm and everything > goes fine. All the partitions are completely synchronized and the > problem comes in the last

Boot on "RAID 1" with "LILO" and "mdadm"

2004-09-07 Thread Agustín Ciciliani
Hi Everybody! I'm trying to run a bootable RAID 1. I'm using mdadm and everything goes fine. All the partitions are completely synchronized and the problem comes in the last step: I edit lilo to boot from the RAID and reboot. The system hangs up saying "LIL". I've r

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-07 Thread Jason Lim
> On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 12:06:13AM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote: > > If ur looking for a fast RAID product that's reasonably priced I'ld take a > > look at NetCell's SyncRAID product (http://www.netcell.com/) which uses a 64 > > bit RAID-3 variant they call

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-07 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 12:06:13AM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote: > If ur looking for a fast RAID product that's reasonably priced I'ld take a > look at NetCell's SyncRAID product (http://www.netcell.com/) which uses a 64 > bit RAID-3 variant they call RAID XL. It got

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-06 Thread Chris Wagner
At 03:35 PM 9/6/04 +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: >For writing, RAID5 tends to be noticeably slower than RAID1, especially for >writes smaller than stripe size, because a write actually is a >read-recompute-write cycle. If ur looking for a fast

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-06 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Monday 06 September 2004 13.38, Dmitry Golubev wrote: > > PS: i wouldn't recommend software raid 5 if you care about performance. > > i am going to convert one of my raid-5 machines (4 x 80GB barracudas) > > to raid-1 (2 x 200GB barracudas) very soon becau

RAID-6 vs. RAID-5?

2004-09-06 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi, could anybody comment, what's the current inofficial quality of RAID6 vs. RAID5? The kernel help does read as if it's pretty beta still. Has anybody bothered trying? Thanks! -- Best regards, Kilian signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-06 Thread Dmitry Golubev
> PS: i wouldn't recommend software raid 5 if you care about performance. i > am going to convert one of my raid-5 machines (4 x 80GB barracudas) to > raid-1 (2 x 200GB barracudas) very soon because i'm unhappy with the > performance(*)...if i had a spare approx $600AUD, i&

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-05 Thread Craig Sanders
7;ve actually done this exact thing before and it > > worked flawlessly. > > Ooh you lovely people - thank you for the good news :) i've done it too, and it works.but the catch is that it takes a lot longer to do it this way than to just backup your data, create the new raid from

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-03 Thread Gavin Hamill
On Friday 03 September 2004 06:28, Dave Watkins wrote: > >After that is done you can delete the old raid1 completly and add the now > > free disk to the raid5... > Ralph Paßgang wrote: > I've actually done this exact thing before and it worked flawlessly. Ooh you lovely people - thank you for the

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-02 Thread Dave Watkins
le to add a >>>third disk and convert the whole set to a 400GB RAID5 later on by >>>logically removing the second disk from the RAID1 set? >>> >>> >>Nope... migrating to a different raid configuration wipes your disks >>So you'll have to ba

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-02 Thread Ralph Paßgang
o a 400GB RAID5 later on by > > logically removing the second disk from the RAID1 set? > > Nope... migrating to a different raid configuration wipes your disks > So you'll have to backup, migrate and restore. Yes, but you can make something like this: remove one drive from the raid-1.

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-02 Thread Gavin Hamill
On Thursday 02 September 2004 14:18, Mark Janssen wrote: > Nope... migrating to a different raid configuration wipes your disks > So you'll have to backup, migrate and restore. That's a shame - I kinda knew that was the answer but hoped I'd missed something :) gdh --

Re: RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-02 Thread Mark Janssen
pe... migrating to a different raid configuration wipes your disks So you'll have to backup, migrate and restore. -- Mark Janssen -- maniac(at)maniac.nl -- GnuPG Key Id: 357D2178 Unix / Linux, Open-Source and Internet Consultant @ SyConOS IT Maniac.nl Unix-God.Net|Org MarkJanssen.o

RAID-1 to RAID-5 online migration?

2004-09-02 Thread Gavin Hamill
Hello - just a quickie :) If I construct a RAID1 with two 200GB disks, will I be able to add a third disk and convert the whole set to a 400GB RAID5 later on by logically removing the second disk from the RAID1 set? Cheers, Gavin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Detect RAID hard drive failure on compaq/hp servers

2004-08-17 Thread Emmanuel Lacour
Hi everybody, I would like to know if there is a way to get a message from the RAID controller when a disk of a raid array (raid 5) fails. I wan't to send something like a mail alert in this case so I need to know this with another way than looking at the disk light ;-) The server is a C

Re: which SATA-raid controller...

2004-08-16 Thread Marcel Hicking
e bill > though). the configuration is 3-disk raid5. A while ago we startet changing from GDT SCSI-RAID to 3ware SCSI/IDE. We have models from 2 to 12 channel in use, both ATA and SATA and are quite happy with them. Never caused any troubles so far. Some of the larger servers use the 12 chann

Re: which SATA-raid controller...

2004-08-16 Thread R.M. Evers
On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 10:19, Russell Coker wrote: > That read speed is quite poor. I would expect to see better speeds than that > from a single S-ATA disk! For several years people have been reporting > better speeds than that from 3ware controllers (although almost no-one tested > with as fe

Re: which SATA-raid controller...

2004-08-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:39, "R.M. Evers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > pci, the speeds are fairly good (surely not top of the bill though). the > configuration is 3-disk raid5. fyi, here's the hdparm test: > > /dev/sda: > Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.43 seconds = 44.76 MB/sec That read

Re: which SATA-raid controller...

2004-08-16 Thread R.M. Evers
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 18:08, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > hello. > > we are planning to set up a serial-ATA based fileserver (>1 Terabyte). > the host will be dedicated solely to serving files (via samba and nfs > (and probably appletalk), so i was thinking about a soft

Re: which SATA-raid controller...

2004-08-15 Thread George Georgalis
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 06:08:31PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >hello. > >we are planning to set up a serial-ATA based fileserver (>1 Terabyte). >the host will be dedicated solely to serving files (via samba and nfs >(and probably appletalk), so i was thinking about a soft

which SATA-raid controller...

2004-08-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hello. we are planning to set up a serial-ATA based fileserver (>1 Terabyte). the host will be dedicated solely to serving files (via samba and nfs (and probably appletalk), so i was thinking about a software-raid solution. are there any cards you would recommend ? i was thinking about highpo

Re: FIXED: LILO & Software RAID1 boot= & raid-boot-extra

2004-08-03 Thread Clayton Russell
Lucas Albers wrote: I have directions on grub and lilo config for software raid systems. Switching to software raid from non-raid and setting lilo.conf and grub.conf correctly. This might help: http://rootraiddoc.alioth.debian.org Hi Lucas, Thanks for that, after reading through your doco I found

Re: LILO & Software RAID1 boot= & raid-boot-extra

2004-08-03 Thread Lucas Albers
I have directions on grub and lilo config for software raid systems. Switching to software raid from non-raid and setting lilo.conf and grub.conf correctly. This might help: http://rootraiddoc.alioth.debian.org -- --Luke CS Sysadmin, Montana State University-Bozeman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: LILO & Software RAID1 boot= & raid-boot-extra

2004-08-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:43:37 +1000, Clayton wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > I am currently looking into a problem I have with LILO & Software > RAID. When upgrading a kernel, with boot=/dev/md0 in lilo.conf, > running lilo succeeds, but reboot fails wit

LILO & Software RAID1 boot= & raid-boot-extra

2004-08-02 Thread Clayton Russell
Hi, I am currently looking into a problem I have with LILO & Software RAID. When upgrading a kernel, with boot=/dev/md0 in lilo.conf, running lilo succeeds, but reboot fails with LI 40 40 type errors. The workaround I have used for this in the past is to change boot= to /dev/hda, then run

Re: Debian Woody Install disks do not detect my LSILOGIC RAID Controller

2004-07-30 Thread Theodore Knab
Thanks that was very helpful. Debian is now being installed. On 30/07/04 16:19 +0200, Jeroen Coekaerts wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 15:11 -0400, Theodore Knab wrote: > > Hello I am stuck. > > > > Knoppix finds this device. My debian woody image does not. > > > > :01:01.0 SCSI storage con

Re: Debian Woody Install disks do not detect my LSILOGIC RAID Controller

2004-07-30 Thread Jeroen Coekaerts
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 15:11 -0400, Theodore Knab wrote: > Hello I am stuck. > > Knoppix finds this device. My debian woody image does not. > > :01:01.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030 PCI-X > Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI (rev 07) > Subsystem: IBM: Unknown

Re: Debian Woody Install disks do not detect my LSILOGIC RAID Controller

2004-07-29 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Theodore Knab ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > :01:01.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030 PCI-X > Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI (rev 07) > Subsystem: IBM: Unknown device 026d > Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 72, IRQ 22 > I/O ports

Re: Debian Woody Install disks do not detect my LSILOGIC RAID Controller

2004-07-29 Thread Theodore Knab
Thanks that looks the most promising info I have found. On 29/07/04 21:49 +0200, Rasmus Glud wrote: > Hiya, > > did you see this thread on the debian list archive ? > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/02/msg00586.html > > * Theodore Knab ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hello I am stuc

Debian Woody Install disks do not detect my LSILOGIC RAID Controller

2004-07-29 Thread Theodore Knab
Hello I am stuck. Knoppix finds this device. My debian woody image does not. :01:01.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030 PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI (rev 07) Subsystem: IBM: Unknown device 026d Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 7

Re: cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
dies while the machine is running > > > and then replace the defective hardware during a scheduled > > > maintenance time. > > > > Except that in my experience a dead IDE drive takes the whole system > > with it even with MD RAID, the system just locks up. (yes e

Re: cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
dies while the machine is running > > > and then replace the defective hardware during a scheduled > > > maintenance time. > > > > Except that in my experience a dead IDE drive takes the whole system > > with it even with MD RAID, the system just locks up. (yes e

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-03 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 05:09, Christoph Moench-Tegeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously, as I need more disk space and CPU than disk IO, I went for > RAID 5. If level 0 or 1 fits your application better, software RAID > might be an option. But why burn CPU on RAID when your cont

Re: cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-03 Thread Russell Coker
tenance time. > > Except that in my experience a dead IDE drive takes the whole system with > it even with MD RAID, the system just locks up. (yes even on say three > 'independent' channels). That hasn't been my experience, maybe I haven't had a drive die in th ri

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-03 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 05:09, Christoph Moench-Tegeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously, as I need more disk space and CPU than disk IO, I went for > RAID 5. If level 0 or 1 fits your application better, software RAID > might be an option. But why burn CPU on RAID when your cont

Re: cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-03 Thread Russell Coker
tenance time. > > Except that in my experience a dead IDE drive takes the whole system with > it even with MD RAID, the system just locks up. (yes even on say three > 'independent' channels). That hasn't been my experience, maybe I haven't had a drive die in th ri

Re: cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-02 Thread Michael Loftis
drive takes the whole system with it even with MD RAID, the system just locks up. (yes even on say three 'independent' channels). This isn't the case with decent hardware IDE RAID controllers (3ware comes to mind, promise does NOT) YMMV of course...I've kind of thought about d

Re: cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-01 Thread Michael Loftis
drive takes the whole system with it even with MD RAID, the system just locks up. (yes even on say three 'independent' channels). This isn't the case with decent hardware IDE RAID controllers (3ware comes to mind, promise does NOT) YMMV of course...I've kind of thought about d

Re: cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-01 Thread Russell Coker
can leave the machine running with a dead disk instead of having > > to do an emergency hardware replacement job. > > I've not tried Linux's software RAID for about 5 years now. How much does > hotswapping a dead IDE drive kill the machine? Does this at all depend

Re: cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-01 Thread Russell Coker
can leave the machine running with a dead disk instead of having > > to do an emergency hardware replacement job. > > I've not tried Linux's software RAID for about 5 years now. How much does > hotswapping a dead IDE drive kill the machine? Does this at all depend

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Yes. Given the price of RAID controllers (ServerRAID, for example) and > > the problems of software RAID, I strongly suggest getting a decent > > controller and do whatever RAID level you need. > Hardware RAID is more expensive.

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Yes. Given the price of RAID controllers (ServerRAID, for example) and > > the problems of software RAID, I strongly suggest getting a decent > > controller and do whatever RAID level you need. > Hardware RAID is more expensive.

Re: cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-01 Thread Franz Georg Köhler
n leave the machine running with a dead disk instead of having > >to do an emergency hardware replacement job. > > I've not tried Linux's software RAID for about 5 years now. How much does > hotswapping a dead IDE drive kill the machine? Does this at all depend on &

cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-01 Thread Marek Isalski
not tried Linux's software RAID for about 5 years now. How much does hotswapping a dead IDE drive kill the machine? Does this at all depend on the IDE controller or can most modern ones cope with the abuse? Hardware RAID I've never worried about -- other than how much effort it took

Re: cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-01 Thread Franz Georg Köhler
n leave the machine running with a dead disk instead of having > >to do an emergency hardware replacement job. > > I've not tried Linux's software RAID for about 5 years now. How much does > hotswapping a dead IDE drive kill the machine? Does this at all depend on &

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Jogi Hofmüller
t be a significant load either. > Generally the more disks in a RAID-5 the better the performance that you can > get, so having a four-disk RAID-5 is likely to give better performance for no > cost (run "iostat -x 10" to verify this). Since we are at the testing stage at the mom

cciss vs IDE (was: lvm with raid)

2004-07-01 Thread Marek Isalski
not tried Linux's software RAID for about 5 years now. How much does hotswapping a dead IDE drive kill the machine? Does this at all depend on the IDE controller or can most modern ones cope with the abuse? Hardware RAID I've never worried about -- other than how much effort it took

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:37, Jogi Hofmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Gustavo Polillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-30 17:22]: > > Is it possible to make lvm with raid ?? Is there anyone here that make > > it? thanks. > > We just recently started tests with ada

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Jogi Hofmüller
t be a significant load either. > Generally the more disks in a RAID-5 the better the performance that you can > get, so having a four-disk RAID-5 is likely to give better performance for no > cost (run "iostat -x 10" to verify this). Since we are at the testing stage at the mom

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
> Is it possible to make lvm with raid ?? Is there anyone here that make it? > thanks. I use LVM over software RAID 1 (mirroring). I use Debian stable and I decided that boot partition over LVM was not worth, specially because of trouble in case of disaster recovery. So my RAID is as

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:37, Jogi Hofmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Gustavo Polillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-30 17:22]: > > Is it possible to make lvm with raid ?? Is there anyone here that make > > it? thanks. > > We just recently started tests with ada

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Jogi Hofmüller
Hi! * Gustavo Polillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-30 17:22]: > Is it possible to make lvm with raid ?? Is there anyone here that make it? > thanks. We just recently started tests with adaptecs zcr cards (2010S) and aic-7902 controlors. Our solution is to have one disk to hol

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:43, Christoph Moench-Tegeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ## Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > ## Gustavo Polillo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > Is it possible to make lvm with raid ?? Is there anyone here that > > > > ma

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
> Is it possible to make lvm with raid ?? Is there anyone here that make it? > thanks. I use LVM over software RAID 1 (mirroring). I use Debian stable and I decided that boot partition over LVM was not worth, specially because of trouble in case of disaster recovery. So my RAID is as

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Jogi Hofmüller
Hi! * Gustavo Polillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-30 17:22]: > Is it possible to make lvm with raid ?? Is there anyone here that make it? > thanks. We just recently started tests with adaptecs zcr cards (2010S) and aic-7902 controlors. Our solution is to have one disk to hol

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > ## Gustavo Polillo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Is it possible to make lvm with raid ?? Is there anyone here that make > > > it? > > Works as expected. RAID appears as a simple SCSI drive. > Only for hardware RA

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:43, Christoph Moench-Tegeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ## Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > ## Gustavo Polillo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > Is it possible to make lvm with raid ?? Is there anyone here that > > > > ma

Re: lvm with raid

2004-07-01 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > ## Gustavo Polillo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Is it possible to make lvm with raid ?? Is there anyone here that make > > > it? > > Works as expected. RAID appears as a simple SCSI drive. > Only for hardware RA

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