Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-12 Thread Bob Ham
On 11 Mar 2001, Per Bothner wrote: (Note I am not particularly interested in the success of Kaffe, given my association with Gcj, which can be viewed as a Kaffe competitor.) I was under the impression that Gcj's main purpose was to build a java compiler, as opposed to Kaffe's which was to

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: Oliver Elphick wrote: Debs of PostgreSQL 7.1beta5 are available at http://people.debian.org/~elp hick/ postgresql/ Great ! Thank you, Oliver ! A suggestion : Could some kind soul prepare the JDBC drivers (and maybe package them in a

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Stephen Zander
"Oliver" == Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oliver ...bafflement! What is "classic compiler"? The XML line Oliver begins "javac" Oliver I have jdk1.1 installed, which contains Oliver /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/javac. Are these JDBC drivers definatively known to work with a

Re: kaffe/gcj (was: Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-12 Thread Per Bothner
Bob Ham [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010312 03:25]: I was under the impression that Gcj's main purpose was to build a java compiler, The purpose is to be a Java implementation which is *based* on ahead-of-time-compilation - but it does include a VM. Seth Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because gcj

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
Stephen Zander wrote: "Oliver" == Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oliver ...bafflement! What is "classic compiler"? The XML line Oliver begins "javac" Oliver I have jdk1.1 installed, which contains Oliver /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/javac. Are these JDBC

Re: kaffe/gcj (was: Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-12 Thread Bob Ham
hOn 12 Mar 2001, Per Bothner wrote: True - but Gcj *does* supply a VM in the traditional (java) sense. I guess not enough people know this. Indeed, I am one of them. Gcj aims to be a *complete* Java solution. As I say, I had no idea. I thought gcj was purely a compiler project, which

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Oliver Elphick wrote: /usr3/home/olly/mypackages/pg7.1/postgresql-7.1beta5/src/interfaces/ jdbc/build.xml:99: Cannot use classic compiler, as it is not available Try using the jikes compiler instead, i.e. add (or change) the build.compiler property in this section: property

Newbie blackdown problem

2001-03-12 Thread Matthew Sherborne
Hi I'm a newbie Java guy. It took me three days to get setup with Java in Debian. I'm using the jde package, originally with the blackdown compiler etc. I couldn't get the blackdown "java" program to run my program. It says java.lang.NoClassDef("HelloWorld"); (or something like that) Any way

Debian packager's block

2001-03-12 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another reason is the lack of standards in the way compilers and VMs are run, making the installation of every new jar a problem (defining environment variables, etc). The proposed Java policy tried to solve this and I would suggest that work on

Re: Newbie blackdown problem

2001-03-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Matthew Sherborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010312 12:29]: I'm using the jde package, originally with the blackdown compiler etc. Hmm. I have the j2sdk1.3 package installed. If you add the line: deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian woody non-free to your

Re: Kaffe and Microsoft [Was: Quitting debian-java]

2001-03-12 Thread Edouard G. Parmelan
Alan KF LAU wrote: Thanks for your information I didn't release there's microsoft.jar in it. :D I'm not going to hate kaffe because it's being funded by Microsoft, but its lack of java.security. Java programmers would find it difficult to build a commercial grade java application without.

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-12 Thread Bob Ham
On 11 Mar 2001, Per Bothner wrote: (Note I am not particularly interested in the success of Kaffe, given my association with Gcj, which can be viewed as a Kaffe competitor.) I was under the impression that Gcj's main purpose was to build a java compiler, as opposed to Kaffe's which was to

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: Oliver Elphick wrote: Debs of PostgreSQL 7.1beta5 are available at http://people.debian.org/~elp hick/ postgresql/ Great ! Thank you, Oliver ! A suggestion : Could some kind soul prepare the JDBC drivers (and maybe package them in a

kaffe/gcj (was: Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Bob Ham [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010312 03:25]: I was under the impression that Gcj's main purpose was to build a java compiler, as opposed to Kaffe's which was to build a VM, having KJC as an aside. Did I miss something? Because gcj can compile directly to native machine code, gcj can compete

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Stephen Zander
Oliver == Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk writes: Oliver ...bafflement! What is classic compiler? The XML line Oliver begins javac Oliver I have jdk1.1 installed, which contains Oliver /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/javac. Are these JDBC drivers definatively known to work with a 1.1 JDK or

Re: kaffe/gcj (was: Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-12 Thread Per Bothner
Bob Ham [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010312 03:25]: I was under the impression that Gcj's main purpose was to build a java compiler, The purpose is to be a Java implementation which is *based* on ahead-of-time-compilation - but it does include a VM. Seth Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because gcj can

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
Stephen Zander wrote: Oliver == Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk writes: Oliver ...bafflement! What is classic compiler? The XML line Oliver begins javac Oliver I have jdk1.1 installed, which contains Oliver /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/javac. Are these JDBC drivers

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Oliver Elphick wrote: /usr3/home/olly/mypackages/pg7.1/postgresql-7.1beta5/src/interfaces/ jdbc/build.xml:99: Cannot use classic compiler, as it is not available Try using the jikes compiler instead, i.e. add (or change) the build.compiler property in this section: property

Newbie blackdown problem

2001-03-12 Thread Matthew Sherborne
Hi I'm a newbie Java guy. It took me three days to get setup with Java in Debian. I'm using the jde package, originally with the blackdown compiler etc. I couldn't get the blackdown java program to run my program. It says java.lang.NoClassDef(HelloWorld); (or something like that) Any way I

Re: Newbie blackdown problem

2001-03-12 Thread Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt
On Monday 12 March 2001 21:16, Matthew Sherborne wrote: I couldn't get the blackdown java program to run my program. It says java.lang.NoClassDef(HelloWorld); (or something like that) Is your CLASSPATH set correct? Try export CLASSPATH=. and then try again. (that's a dot after the =). Rgds