--- David Goodenough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know that the GCJ version of Jar is? If not is there an open
source version of Jar somewhere. Its close to zip of course, but just not
quite close enough, and the options are more like those from tar.
gcj comes with a jar tool
Hallo Jan,
--- Jan Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
So when I write
kaffe -bootclasspath xerces.jar .. -cp ... Main
I can't do it, because its against the GPL/whetever License?
I'm not sure. Technically of course you can do it, but I don't think
Hallo Jan,
--- Jan Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
Packages, which want to contribute a alternative for /usr/bin/java and its
manpage must provide java-runtime. The alternative must accept the option
'-classpath', which sets the classpath and
--- Jan Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo Matt,
[snip]
This interface is not for the free ones but only for the sun complient
ones (Sun, BD, IBM). The rest will be handled independently.
[snip]
With this interfaces you can install a package and know that it will
run, even if you
Hallo Jan,
--- Jan Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And the thing is, it will work. JAVA_HOME is not advertised anywhere,
but almost every startscript uses it. man ant, man eclipse, man
tomcat4 (oups: No manual entry for tomcat4, which tomcat4:
/usr/bin/tomcat4). All use it, but no word in
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:29:23AM +1000, Ben Burton wrote:
In addition, if a user wants to add their own classes to the classpath
(e.g., with jython where adding your own classes can be advantageous
even if the app itself doesn't need them), they can set $CLASSPATH
before running the script.
Hallo Ben,
* Ben Burton wrote:
Can we use $CLASSPATH instead of -classpath? From my experience making
packages work with both free and proprietary JVMs, setting $CLASSPATH
before calling the java runtime (instead of passing -classpath, -cp,
whatever) has caused the least breakage.
With some
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
-classpath jarfile:jarfile, where jarfile is a full path to a
Java Archiv file.
So you've just forbid the use of directories in -classpath per policy.
Are you sure you want to do that? ;)
In packages: yes. Policy requires, that all puiblic jar files are
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
Kaffe is actually mostly compatible with the JAVA_HOME standard now
that I use symlinks for Debian compatibility. It might be worth making
the JAVA_HOME structure part of Debian policy. GCJ and friends could
create some simulation of it by symlinking
Can we use $CLASSPATH instead of -classpath? From my experience making
packages work with both free and proprietary JVMs, setting $CLASSPATH
before calling the java runtime (instead of passing -classpath, -cp,
whatever) has caused the least breakage.
With some clear idea about *what* you
Does anyone know that the GCJ version of Jar is? If not is there an open
source version of Jar somewhere. Its close to zip of course, but just not
quite close enough, and the options are more like those from tar.
David
--- David Goodenough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know that the GCJ version of Jar is? If not is there an open
source version of Jar somewhere. Its close to zip of course, but just not
quite close enough, and the options are more like those from tar.
gcj comes with a jar tool
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 08:57, Dalibor Topic wrote:
--- David Goodenough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know that the GCJ version of Jar is? If not is there an open
source version of Jar somewhere. Its close to zip of course, but just
not quite close enough, and the options
Hallo Jan,
--- Jan Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
So when I write
kaffe -bootclasspath xerces.jar .. -cp ... Main
I can't do it, because its against the GPL/whetever License?
I'm not sure. Technically of course you can do it, but I don't think
Hallo Jan,
--- Jan Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
A precise interface should be discussed together. Off my head:
-classpath, -cp, -sourcepath, -O, -d, -g, -deprecation
I'd remove a few things from the list, since javac 1.4.2 doesn't support -cp
Hallo Jan,
--- Jan Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
Packages, which want to contribute a alternative for /usr/bin/java and its
manpage must provide java-runtime. The alternative must accept the option
'-classpath', which sets the classpath and
--- Jan Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo Matt,
[snip]
This interface is not for the free ones but only for the sun complient
ones (Sun, BD, IBM). The rest will be handled independently.
[snip]
With this interfaces you can install a package and know that it will
run, even if you
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:29:23AM +1000, Ben Burton wrote:
In addition, if a user wants to add their own classes to the classpath
(e.g., with jython where adding your own classes can be advantageous
even if the app itself doesn't need them), they can set $CLASSPATH
before running the script.
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#IfInterpreterIsGPL states
that such things happen when you use JNI with GPL code. Anyway, I'm
neither a laywer, nor in any way experienced enough with such a
question.
The ugly point is that almost every VM
Hallo Ean,
* Ean Schuessler wrote:
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 16:10, Jan Schulz wrote:
The difference is that the Kaffe package would not try to provide
j2sdk1.4. Kaffe just provides kaffe. Packages that know they will
work with Kaffe can explicitly depend on it.
Sorry, if I haven't made that clear
This is somewhat more difficult to arrange with command-line options.
java -classpath foo.jar:bar.jar:$CLASSPATH
Heh. :)
*slap*
Hallo Ben,
* Ben Burton wrote:
Can we use $CLASSPATH instead of -classpath? From my experience making
packages work with both free and proprietary JVMs, setting $CLASSPATH
before calling the java runtime (instead of passing -classpath, -cp,
whatever) has caused the least breakage.
With some
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
-classpath jarfile:jarfile, where jarfile is a full path to a
Java Archiv file.
So you've just forbid the use of directories in -classpath per policy.
Are you sure you want to do that? ;)
In packages: yes. Policy requires, that all puiblic jar files are
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
it is names) and it should be fine. If thats the search path for
classes... Without, we probably can't use kjc, as a javac replacement
or ant compiler, as the result would be unpredictable, especially when
a programm wants to have a newer version of one
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
If the packages need java, the executable, they should use whatever 'java' is
in the PATH. If they need it to load
sun.only.dedicated.morons.use.this.api.Main, then they are broken and need to
be fixed. There is no reason to use JAVA_HOME.
I think we just
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
I sense a contradiction here. Either the interface is meant for non-compliant
free VMs as well, then the first paragraph is weird, or the free VMs will be
handled separately, but then there is no interface, so the second paragraph is,
huh, weird ;)
Aem,
Hallo Dalibor,
* Dalibor Topic wrote:
Kaffe is actually mostly compatible with the JAVA_HOME standard now
that I use symlinks for Debian compatibility. It might be worth making
the JAVA_HOME structure part of Debian policy. GCJ and friends could
create some simulation of it by symlinking
Can we use $CLASSPATH instead of -classpath? From my experience making
packages work with both free and proprietary JVMs, setting $CLASSPATH
before calling the java runtime (instead of passing -classpath, -cp,
whatever) has caused the least breakage.
With some clear idea about *what* you
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