On Friday May 25 2007, Paul Cager wrote:
> I have practically no experience with Maven (yet!), so it's good to
> meet someone who is active with it. Would you be interested in
> getting involved with the testing of any packaging we produce? We'd
> do some basic testing, of course, but it would be
On Saturday May 26 2007, Andrew Haley wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Hm. All this is a bit extreme. Even the Linux kernel changes its
> > API all the time and things are working okay.
>
> This really is grossly unfair to the kernel deveopers, who go to
> great lengths to avoid breaking t
Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
On 5/26/07, Trygve Laugstøl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
> If we wanna use maven to build, we need maven in main. If we want to
> extract metadata, we just need an xslt or some
> perl/python/java/whatever xml parser.
No you don't. I meant that you can u
On Saturday May 26 2007, Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
> On 5/26/07, Trygve Laugstøl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
> > > If we wanna use maven to build, we need maven in main. If we
> > > want to extract metadata, we just need an xslt or some
> > > perl/python/java/whatever xml parse
On 5/26/07, Trygve Laugstøl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
> If we wanna use maven to build, we need maven in main. If we want to
> extract metadata, we just need an xslt or some
> perl/python/java/whatever xml parser.
No you don't. I meant that you can use Maven to generate th
Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Paul Cager:
>
>> Now that we are making progress with packaging Maven's
>> Build-Dependencies, I'm beginning to wonder what happens next. I've
>> noticed from the JavaCC packaging that it seems to be all right to
>> include a "bootstrap jar" in the upstream source. Is thi
* Paul Cager:
>> This is a bit tricky. Theoretically, you are supposed to bootstrap
>> from an installed version (IOW, a self-depdency).
>
> So we couldn't use bootstrapping to get the *first* version into Debian?
If there are architecture-dependent binary packages, they need to
built and upload
Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Paul Cager:
>
>> Now that we are making progress with packaging Maven's
>> Build-Dependencies, I'm beginning to wonder what happens next. I've
>> noticed from the JavaCC packaging that it seems to be all right to
>> include a "bootstrap jar" in the upstream source. Is thi
Florian Weimer wrote:
* Paul Cager:
Now that we are making progress with packaging Maven's
Build-Dependencies, I'm beginning to wonder what happens next. I've
noticed from the JavaCC packaging that it seems to be all right to
include a "bootstrap jar" in the upstream source. Is this right? I gu
Paul Cager wrote:
Now that we are making progress with packaging Maven's
Build-Dependencies, I'm beginning to wonder what happens next. I've
noticed from the JavaCC packaging that it seems to be all right to
include a "bootstrap jar" in the upstream source. Is this right? I guess
to be valid:
* Paul Cager:
> Now that we are making progress with packaging Maven's
> Build-Dependencies, I'm beginning to wonder what happens next. I've
> noticed from the JavaCC packaging that it seems to be all right to
> include a "bootstrap jar" in the upstream source. Is this right? I guess
> to be valid
Marcus Better writes:
> Andrew Haley wrote:
> > In my opinion, Java libraries without stable interfaces shouldn't be
> > deployed in free OSes.
>
> That's a nice goal but unfortunately the world is not so perfect,
> because users occasionally require new software with shiny new
> bells and
Paul Cager wrote:
This is the "desert island test" [1],
No it isn't. The Desert Island Test is something quite different, to do
with the freeness of the upstream license. Please ignore this bit, as I
hadn't got my brain in gear!
The Debian prohibition against downloading during a package bu
Manfred Moser wrote:
On Friday May 25 2007, Paul Cager wrote:
Now that we are making progress with packaging Maven's
..
Hi Paul and all,
Just fyi I am an active Maven and long time Debian/Ubuntu user with
very little packaging know how
I have practically no experience with Maven (yet!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Quoting Andrew Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > In my opinion, Java libraries without stable interfaces shouldn't be
> > deployed in free OSes. If they are to be used, you're going to have
> > to change the jar name, but even that may not work: if you use such a
> >
Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
On 5/23/07, Trygve Laugstøl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
[...]
> We must first have maven in main!.. That's not so easy ;-)
Why do you need Maven in main first? There shouldn't be any issues using
Maven's metadata to generate the control file nor gener
Manfred Moser wrote:
[... snip some very useful information ...]
>
I hope this helps a bit.
Yes, it certainly does, and thank you. I'll have a good read of it later
today when I'm more awake!
manfred
Thanks,
Paul
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