New 1.4.1 debs out next week

2003-03-30 Thread Stephen Zander
Subject says it all. I just got back from vacation so it will take me a few days to get everything built and yes, Jack, I'll build a new 1.3.1 ppc package as well. -- Stephen "Farcical aquatic ceremonies are no basis for a system of government!" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: redistribute debianized blackdown and sun's jdk

2003-03-08 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Takashi" == Takashi Okamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Takashi> I really want j2sdk in non-free. But I don't know key Takashi> person to do it. Does anybody (especially Zander) discuss Takashi> and negotiate about redistibution? I suggest you search the -legal archives for nume

Re: redistribute debianized blackdown and sun's jdk

2003-03-08 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Takashi" == Takashi Okamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Takashi> I really want j2sdk in non-free. But I don't know key Takashi> person to do it. Does anybody (especially Zander) discuss Takashi> and negotiate about redistibution? I suggest you search the -legal archives for nume

Re: Bug#182466: libbatik-java: limited JRE depencies

2003-02-28 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> I second this policy change. I would like one more to be able Ola> to apply it. Thirded (if it needed it). -- Stephen "And what do we burn apart from witches?"... "More witches!"

Re: Bug#182466: libbatik-java: limited JRE depencies

2003-02-28 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> I second this policy change. I would like one more to be able Ola> to apply it. Thirded (if it needed it). -- Stephen "And what do we burn apart from witches?"... "More witches!" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Eclipse2.1RC1 package

2003-02-24 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Takashi" == Takashi Okamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Takashi> But I think it's optional and it's the time to upload Takashi> eclipse into sid. If you don't think so, please give me Takashi> comments. Go for it (don't forget to close my ITP)! -- Stephen I love catnip mice I

Re: Eclipse2.1RC1 package

2003-02-24 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Takashi" == Takashi Okamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Takashi> But I think it's optional and it's the time to upload Takashi> eclipse into sid. If you don't think so, please give me Takashi> comments. Go for it (don't forget to close my ITP)! -- Stephen I love catnip mice I

Bug#180929: ftp.debian.org: Remove jdk1.1 packages from archive

2003-02-13 Thread Stephen Zander
Package: ftp.debian.org Version: 20030214 Severity: serious Packages: jdk1.1, jdk1.1-native, jdk1.1-dev jdk1.1-native-dev They're non-free, they're buggy because the ftp-masters refused to even look at an upload for over six months, and I have no enthusiasm for continuing to pursue support for Su

Bug#180929: ftp.debian.org: Remove jdk1.1 packages from archive

2003-02-13 Thread Stephen Zander
Package: ftp.debian.org Version: 20030214 Severity: serious Packages: jdk1.1, jdk1.1-native, jdk1.1-dev jdk1.1-native-dev They're non-free, they're buggy because the ftp-masters refused to even look at an upload for over six months, and I have no enthusiasm for continuing to pursue support for Su

Re: JNI Installation Directories: Another push

2003-02-12 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> Well. Do they have any reason for this? Concerns about the redistribution of code that Debian has been distributing for longer than the five years I've been a DD. Actually, having to think about this again has helped me make up my

Re: JNI Installation Directories: Another push

2003-02-12 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> Well. Do they have any reason for this? Concerns about the redistribution of code that Debian has been distributing for longer than the five years I've been a DD. Actually, having to think about this again has helped me make up my

Re: JNI Installation Directories: Another push

2003-02-11 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> You actually say that they allow jdk1.1 to be in the archives Ola> but not updates to it? Yep. Impressive, huh! -- Stephen "A duck!"

Re: JNI Installation Directories: Another push

2003-02-11 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> You actually say that they allow jdk1.1 to be in the archives Ola> but not updates to it? Yep. Impressive, huh! -- Stephen "A duck!" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: JNI Installation Directories: Another push

2003-02-08 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> The jdk1.1 and j2se1.4 maintainer I've heard nothing from at Ben> all. I got your message and will be including the change in the next j2se packages. I won't beincluding it in the jdk1.1 package because the ftp-nasters have alread

Re: JNI Installation Directories: Another push

2003-02-08 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The jdk1.1 and j2se1.4 maintainer I've heard nothing Ben> from at all. -- Stephen They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -- Benjamin Franklin

Re: JNI Installation Directories: Another push

2003-02-07 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> The jdk1.1 and j2se1.4 maintainer I've heard nothing from at Ben> all. I got your message and will be including the change in the next j2se packages. I won't beincluding it in the jdk1.1 package because the ftp-nasters have alread

Re: JNI Installation Directories: Another push

2003-02-07 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The jdk1.1 and j2se1.4 maintainer I've heard nothing Ben> from at all. -- Stephen They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Policy change proposal, Re: Bug#176628: sablevm: package incorrctly provides java1-runtime

2003-01-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:30:07AM -0800, Dalibor Topic wrote: Ola> I think that major new things (i.e. swing and awt) from java1 Ola> (from 1.0, or maybe only from 1.1 and above) should be broken Ola> down. What doe you

Re: request feedback on JBOSS debs

2003-01-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Joe" == Joe Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joe> On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 14:44, Adam Heath wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Greg Wilkins wrote: >> > + The setting of JAVA_HOME should be done by an auto search >> and/or > a debconf dialog. >> >> Use /etc/defaults/jbo

Re: Policy change proposal, Re: Bug#176628: sablevm: packageincorrctly provides java1-runtime

2003-01-21 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:30:07AM -0800, Dalibor Topic wrote: Ola> I think that major new things (i.e. swing and awt) from java1 Ola> (from 1.0, or maybe only from 1.1 and above) should be broken Ola> down. What doe you

Re: request feedback on JBOSS debs

2003-01-21 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Joe" == Joe Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joe> On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 14:44, Adam Heath wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Greg Wilkins wrote: >> > + The setting of JAVA_HOME should be done by an auto search >> and/or > a debconf dialog. >> >> Use /etc/defaults/jbo

Re: Policy change proposal - JVMs Provides: requirements

2003-01-20 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Grzegorz" == Grzegorz B Prokopski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Grzegorz> As for my proposals, I think I'd do it this way: Grzegorz> 1. Define exactly what requirements must be met for JVM Grzegorz> to be able to _legally_ provide java-virtual-machine, Grzegorz> java*-runtime e

Re: Policy change proposal - JVMs Provides: requirements

2003-01-20 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Grzegorz" == Grzegorz B Prokopski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Grzegorz> As for my proposals, I think I'd do it this way: Grzegorz> 1. Define exactly what requirements must be met for JVM Grzegorz> to be able to _legally_ provide java-virtual-machine, Grzegorz> java*-runtime e

Re: Bug#176629: gij-3.2: package incorrctly provides java1-runtime

2003-01-17 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Matthias" == Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matthias> so which runtimes do have complete awt support at all? Matthias> The provides was added to build all packages which do Matthias> not relay on all awt functionality. I would have to Matthias> search the bug rep

Re: Bug#176629: gij-3.2: package incorrctly provides java1-runtime

2003-01-17 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Matthias" == Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matthias> so which runtimes do have complete awt support at all? Matthias> The provides was added to build all packages which do Matthias> not relay on all awt functionality. I would have to Matthias> search the bug rep

Re: JCP, JSR, RI, TCK, etc

2002-12-21 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> Well frankly I do not understand it fully either. What I Ola> understand is that they have split JSRs and RIs. This means Ola> that you are free to implement Java Specification Requests Ola> (JSR) under open source. It do

Re: JCP, JSR, RI, TCK, etc

2002-12-21 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> Well frankly I do not understand it fully either. What I Ola> understand is that they have split JSRs and RIs. This means Ola> that you are free to implement Java Specification Requests Ola> (JSR) under open source. It do

Re: confused about what to depend on ;(

2002-12-08 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:26:34AM +, Conrad Wood wrote: >> hmm.. is there something like a jdk-dev package that follows >> some well-defined standard on what is included? Or is it worth >> putting a jdk-config script

Re: confused about what to depend on ;(

2002-12-08 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:26:34AM +, Conrad Wood wrote: >> hmm.. is there something like a jdk-dev package that follows >> some well-defined standard on what is included? Or is it worth >> putting a jdk-config script

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Ok, I should stop reading mail at 3am... > "Simon" == Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Simon> I think the autobuilder argument is valid. Autobuilders Simon> need the classes, but not the VM. If at all, you can make Simon> the VMs depend on the core classes, so people can

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Simon" == Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Simon> I think the autobuilder argument is valid. Autobuilders Simon> need the classes, but not the VM. If at all, you can make Simon> the VMs depend on the core classes, so people can depend on Simon> the core classes for c

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> This is false. If the package provides the core classes it Ola> should provide java1-runtime but NOT java-virtual-machine. If Ola> it provides the virtual-machine it should provide Ola> java-virtual-machine. If this is no

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> This is false. If the package provides the core classes it Ola> should provide java1-runtime but NOT java-virtual-machine. If Ola> it provides the virtual-machine it should provide Ola> java-virtual-machine. If this is no

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending onjava-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Ok, I should stop reading mail at 3am... > "Simon" == Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Simon> I think the autobuilder argument is valid. Autobuilders Simon> need the classes, but not the VM. If at all, you can make Simon> the VMs depend on the core classes, so people can

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending onjava-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Simon" == Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Simon> I think the autobuilder argument is valid. Autobuilders Simon> need the classes, but not the VM. If at all, you can make Simon> the VMs depend on the core classes, so people can depend on Simon> the core classes for c

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending onjava-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> This is false. If the package provides the core classes it Ola> should provide java1-runtime but NOT java-virtual-machine. If Ola> it provides the virtual-machine it should provide Ola> java-virtual-machine. If this is no

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending onjava-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> This is false. If the package provides the core classes it Ola> should provide java1-runtime but NOT java-virtual-machine. If Ola> it provides the virtual-machine it should provide Ola> java-virtual-machine. If this is no

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> Currently the following packages in testing provide Stefan> java1-runtime: gij-3.0, gij-3.2, orp-classpath and Stefan> sablevm. All of them include (or depend on) a Java virtual Stefan> machine so if I add this depen

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending onjava-common

2002-12-04 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> Currently the following packages in testing provide Stefan> java1-runtime: gij-3.0, gij-3.2, orp-classpath and Stefan> sablevm. All of them include (or depend on) a Java virtual Stefan> machine so if I add this depen

Re: libc upgrade has broken jdk 1.3?

2002-12-03 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Greg" == Greg Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Greg> But isn't the whole library versioning thing meant to solve Greg> this sort of things? why isn't the old libc kept about as Greg> an explicit version that java can link directly to? I suggest you consider the output of

Re: libc upgrade has broken jdk 1.3?

2002-12-03 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Greg" == Greg Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Greg> But isn't the whole library versioning thing meant to solve Greg> this sort of things? why isn't the old libc kept about as Greg> an explicit version that java can link directly to? I suggest you consider the output of

Re: libc upgrade has broken jdk 1.3?

2002-12-03 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Kates" == Kates Gasis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kates> Why is it that debian can not run the j2sdk1.4.0_01 jre. It Kates> says that libstc++... can not find the libjvm.so. I have Kates> set my path correctly. It happens even when I am already Kates> root. By the way, I have

Re: libc upgrade has broken jdk 1.3?

2002-12-03 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Alban" == Alban Peignier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alban> Does anyone run the blqckdown jdk1.3 into a sid Alban> successfully ? No, because it's not possible. All Blackdown JVM < 1.4 use internal glibc symbols that ceased to exist with the release of glibc 2.3.1 -- Stephen The

Re: libc upgrade has broken jdk 1.3?

2002-12-03 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Kates" == Kates Gasis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kates> Why is it that debian can not run the j2sdk1.4.0_01 jre. It Kates> says that libstc++... can not find the libjvm.so. I have Kates> set my path correctly. It happens even when I am already Kates> root. By the way, I have

Re: libc upgrade has broken jdk 1.3?

2002-12-03 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Alban" == Alban Peignier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alban> Does anyone run the blqckdown jdk1.3 into a sid Alban> successfully ? No, because it's not possible. All Blackdown JVM < 1.4 use internal glibc symbols that ceased to exist with the release of glibc 2.3.1 -- Stephen The

Re: Mass filing of bugs

2002-11-30 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> Programs must depend on java-virtual-machine (because they Ola> will need it in order to run). Given's Dalibor Topic's comment on this list (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>), should we declare java[12]-runtime to be a superset of java-virtu

Re: Mass filing of bugs

2002-11-30 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> Programs must depend on java-virtual-machine (because they Ola> will need it in order to run). Given's Dalibor Topic's comment on this list (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>), should we declare java[12]-runtime to be a superset of java-virtu

Mass filing of bugs (was Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?)

2002-11-28 Thread Stephen Zander
>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stephen> What I think you're suggesting is that lib*-java classes Stephen> would depend on a virtual package that provides the Stephen> java.* classes, e.g. classpath, that was s

Mass filing of bugs (was Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot besatisfied?)

2002-11-28 Thread Stephen Zander
>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stephen> What I think you're suggesting is that lib*-java classes Stephen> would depend on a virtual package that provides the Stephen> java.* classes, e.g. classpath, that was s

Re: sun-jdk1.4-installer

2002-11-25 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Tony" == Tony Simone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tony> Are there any significant differences between the 1.4.0.99 Tony> Blackdown stuff you packaged and Sun's 1.4.0 or 1.4.1 JDK's? Tony> I've been sticking with Sun's stuff so far because I know it Tony> works with my apps and

Re: sun-jdk1.4-installer

2002-11-25 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Tony" == Tony Simone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tony> Are there any significant differences between the 1.4.0.99 Tony> Blackdown stuff you packaged and Sun's 1.4.0 or 1.4.1 JDK's? Tony> I've been sticking with Sun's stuff so far because I know it Tony> works with my apps and

Re: sun-jdk1.4-installer

2002-11-25 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Tony" == Tony Simone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tony> Quick summary: the sun-jdk1.4-installer package requires you Tony> to download the Sun linux j2sdk archive (since Sun requires Tony> you to do so and it's hard to automate around that), and it Tony> provides a "build-sun-

Re: sun-jdk1.4-installer

2002-11-25 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Tony" == Tony Simone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tony> Quick summary: the sun-jdk1.4-installer package requires you Tony> to download the Sun linux j2sdk archive (since Sun requires Tony> you to do so and it's hard to automate around that), and it Tony> provides a "build-sun-

Re: Bundling J2SDK 1.4?

2002-11-24 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Juergen" == Juergen Kreileder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Unless 1.3.1 doesn't meet your needs, I'd say no. Juergen> I'd say yes :-) You would :P Seriously, though, are you suggesting that j2sdk1.4 is worth taking on the excitement that is the libc6 2.3.1 upgrede? -- Stephen

Re: Bundling J2SDK 1.4?

2002-11-23 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Juergen" == Juergen Kreileder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Unless 1.3.1 doesn't meet your needs, I'd say no. Juergen> I'd say yes :-) You would :P Seriously, though, are you suggesting that j2sdk1.4 is worth taking on the excitement that is the libc6 2.3.1 upgrede? -- Stephen

Re: Bundling J2SDK 1.4?

2002-11-23 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Darryl" == Darryl L Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darryl> I guess, based on the dependancy on libc6 2.3.1-1 or Darryl> better, I'm going to have to upgrade to unstable to get Darryl> this work? I'm using sarge currently. Is it worth it? Unless 1.3.1 doesn't meet your needs,

Re: Bundling J2SDK 1.4?

2002-11-23 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Darryl" == Darryl L Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darryl> Is someone working to add a 1.4 JDK to debian? The long story was already mentioned. I'll just add that adding deb http://mirror.of.blackdown.org/pub/debian/ unstable main non-free to /etc/apt/souces.list, followed by

Re: Bundling J2SDK 1.4?

2002-11-23 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Darryl" == Darryl L Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darryl> I guess, based on the dependancy on libc6 2.3.1-1 or Darryl> better, I'm going to have to upgrade to unstable to get Darryl> this work? I'm using sarge currently. Is it worth it? Unless 1.3.1 doesn't meet your needs,

Re: Bundling J2SDK 1.4?

2002-11-23 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Darryl" == Darryl L Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darryl> Is someone working to add a 1.4 JDK to debian? The long story was already mentioned. I'll just add that adding deb http://mirror.of.blackdown.org/pub/debian/ unstable main non-free to /etc/apt/souces.list, followed by

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
Followups set to debian-java where this is a little more on topic. > "Ian" == Ian Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> gcj can compile java bytecode into native code. So Ian> Architecture: all java libraries can be used for development Ian> purposes without an interpreter.

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> I have used Sun's definition of "runtime environment" Stefan> (i.e. core classes and JVM) in this case. And obviously Stefan> the maintainers of classpath and libgcj* used the same Stefan> definitions, otherwise thei

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Per" == Per Bothner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Per> Stefan Gybas wrote: >> I have used Sun's definition of "runtime environment" >> (i.e. core classes and JVM) in this case. And obviously the >> maintainers of classpath and libgcj* used the same definitions, >> otherwise

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
Followups set to debian-java where this is a little more on topic. > "Ian" == Ian Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> gcj can compile java bytecode into native code. So Ian> Architecture: all java libraries can be used for development Ian> purposes without an interpreter.

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> I have used Sun's definition of "runtime environment" Stefan> (i.e. core classes and JVM) in this case. And obviously Stefan> the maintainers of classpath and libgcj* used the same Stefan> definitions, otherwise thei

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Per" == Per Bothner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Per> Stefan Gybas wrote: >> I have used Sun's definition of "runtime environment" >> (i.e. core classes and JVM) in this case. And obviously the >> maintainers of classpath and libgcj* used the same definitions, >> otherwise

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So, here's my (hopefully) final question. I think I have >> addressed everyone's concerns with this Depends line: >> >> Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, kaffe | java-runtime, >> java-common Ola> If you chan

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> IMHO Java libraries should not have any dependencies on Stefan> either a runtime or a virtual machine. The reason is Stefan> simple: Let's say I have a Java library package in main Stefan> (so it can be built with ji

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> Libraries don't have to depend on java-virtual-machine Stefan> since they are not run by end-users. For example, they can Stefan> be used by Jikes to compile Java classes without an Stefan> installed JVM (if the Debi

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So, here's my (hopefully) final question. I think I have >> addressed everyone's concerns with this Depends line: >> >> Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, kaffe | java-runtime, >> java-common Ola> If you chan

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> IMHO Java libraries should not have any dependencies on Stefan> either a runtime or a virtual machine. The reason is Stefan> simple: Let's say I have a Java library package in main Stefan> (so it can be built with ji

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> Libraries don't have to depend on java-virtual-machine Stefan> since they are not run by end-users. For example, they can Stefan> be used by Jikes to compile Java classes without an Stefan> installed JVM (if the Debi

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> I do not know that short form WTF. If they are installable Ola> does not matter. If it is completely useless then it has to Ola> depend on somekind of runtime at least. Just as with any Ola> other dependencies. :) WTF ->

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> I do not know that short form WTF. If they are installable Ola> does not matter. If it is completely useless then it has to Ola> depend on somekind of runtime at least. Just as with any Ola> other dependencies. :) WTF ->

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> This looks good if you only need a virtual machine and it Ola> works with kaffe. But you most probably need a java1-runtime Ola> to run it (not jus kaffe) so you should add that too (if you Ola> need the runtime classes).

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-21 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> This looks good if you only need a virtual machine and it Ola> works with kaffe. But you most probably need a java1-runtime Ola> to run it (not jus kaffe) so you should add that too (if you Ola> need the runtime classes).

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sven> Yes, thanks it works fine (altough the postinst try to Sven> install the plugin to mozilla-cvs, which does not exist and Sven> thus the postinst fails) Hmm, I'll have to look at that. Sven> Which GR ? The one about remo

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sven> Yes, thanks it works fine (altough the postinst try to Sven> install the plugin to mozilla-cvs, which does not exist and Sven> thus the postinst fails) Hmm, I'll have to look at that. Sven> Which GR ? The one about remo

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sven> BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they Sven> complain about a missing j2se-common. Is this the same Sven> package as java-common ? Someone else already metioned it but you needto add main to you bacldow

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sven> BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they Sven> complain about a missing j2se-common. Is this the same Sven> package as java-common ? Someone else already metioned it but you needto add main to you bacldow

Re: State of 1.4 debian packages?

2002-11-19 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Robert" == Robert Varga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robert> Does anyone know what is the current state of j2se 1.4 or Robert> 1.4.1 deb packages for x86? I presume you've found them by now. -- Stephen They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety des

Re: State of 1.4 debian packages?

2002-11-19 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Robert" == Robert Varga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robert> Does anyone know what is the current state of j2se 1.4 or Robert> 1.4.1 deb packages for x86? I presume you've found them by now. -- Stephen They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety des

Re: blackdown jdk and current sid libc6 (2.3.x)

2002-10-26 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Rupa" == Rupa Schomaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rupa> Umm.. I did. Not very well apparently. http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2002/debian-java-200210/msg00092.html> http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2002/debian-java-200210/msg00102.html> -- Stephen "A duck!"

Re: blackdown jdk and current sid libc6 (2.3.x)

2002-10-25 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Rupa" == Rupa Schomaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rupa> Umm.. I did. Not very well apparently. http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2002/debian-java-200210/msg00092.html> http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2002/debian-java-200210/msg00102.html> -- Stephen "A duck!" -- To UNSUBS

Re: blackdown jdk and current sid libc6 (2.3.x)

2002-10-23 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Rupa" == Rupa Schomaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rupa> Suggestions? Read the archives? -- Stephen "So if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood."... "And therefore?"... "A witch!"

Re: blackdown jdk and current sid libc6 (2.3.x)

2002-10-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Rupa" == Rupa Schomaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rupa> Suggestions? Read the archives? -- Stephen "So if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood."... "And therefore?"... "A witch!" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: After an upgrade Java doesnt work anymore

2002-10-20 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Alban" == Alban Peignier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alban> .. :( I've got the same problem ! -- Did either of you upgrade to lic6 2.3.1 recently? All Blackdown j2se < 1.4 beta are knonw to fail with libc6 >= 2.3.1. Downgrade libc6 or install the 1.4 beta by hand for now. -- Steph

Re: About j2sdk1.3

2002-10-19 Thread Stephen Zander
Seeing as this comes up on a regular basis, I'll send the response to debian-java as well > "yoros" == yoros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: yoros> I don't find j2se-common package, where can I find it? I yoros> think j2sdk1.3 and j2re1.3 are not well-packaged. If the yoros> bu

Re: About j2sdk1.3

2002-10-19 Thread Stephen Zander
Seeing as this comes up on a regular basis, I'll send the response to debian-java as well > "yoros" == yoros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: yoros> I don't find j2se-common package, where can I find it? I yoros> think j2sdk1.3 and j2re1.3 are not well-packaged. If the yoros> bu

Re: .deb files for JAVA 1.4

2002-10-08 Thread Stephen Zander
> "J" == J R Westmoreland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: J> Where can I get .deb files for JAVA 1.4? J. R. Westmoreland Right now, you can't. Once I finish packaging GGZ I'll update the Blackdown mirrors with 1.4 debs unless Juergen beats me to it. -- Stephen "What would be the purpose o

Re: .deb files for JAVA 1.4

2002-10-08 Thread Stephen Zander
> "J" == J R Westmoreland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: J> Where can I get .deb files for JAVA 1.4? J. R. Westmoreland Right now, you can't. Once I finish packaging GGZ I'll update the Blackdown mirrors with 1.4 debs unless Juergen beats me to it. -- Stephen "What would be the purpose

Re: libsax-java, was Re: EJB in jakarta project

2002-09-30 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> As I've already told, I'm planning to split xml-apis.jar Stefan> (which is created by Xalan2) into a seperate package. But Stefan> I'd like to move some Java packages to main first Stefan> (including Ant and Xalan2)

Re: libsax-java, was Re: EJB in jakarta project

2002-09-30 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> As I've already told, I'm planning to split xml-apis.jar Stefan> (which is created by Xalan2) into a seperate package. But Stefan> I'd like to move some Java packages to main first Stefan> (including Ant and Xalan2)

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-27 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Thomas" == Thomas J Zeeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> The debianised blackdown jdk. It's still at a version 1+ Thomas> years old and multiple releases have seen the light of Thomas> day. As of now (I just looked) jdk 1.3.1.02b is available in .deb form for i386, powerpc

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-27 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Thomas" == Thomas J Zeeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> The debianised blackdown jdk. It's still at a version 1+ Thomas> years old and multiple releases have seen the light of Thomas> day. As of now (I just looked) jdk 1.3.1.02b is available in .deb form for i386, powerp

Re: java policy - when? [was: Re: policy proposal: java2 alternative]

2002-08-08 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Grzegorz" == Grzegorz Prokopski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Grzegorz> Blackdown released 1.4.1 beta - it may be good time to Grzegorz> give them strict advice on how they should prepare Grzegorz> packages for Debian. Updated j2se packages are making their slow way onto the Black

Re: Blackdown JDK conflicts with java2-common

2002-08-03 Thread Stephen Zander
>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stephen> Ah bugger, thanks for the reminder. There are newer debs Stephen> for the Blackdown JDK, I've just not gotten them to the Stephen> appropriate mirror source. And I fin

Re: Blackdown JDK conflicts with java2-common

2002-08-03 Thread Stephen Zander
>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stephen> Ah bugger, thanks for the reminder. There are newer debs Stephen> for the Blackdown JDK, I've just not gotten them to the Stephen> appropriate mirror source. And I fin

Re: Blackdown JDK conflicts with java2-common

2002-07-08 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ross" == Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ross> Weirdly, the .deb is a lot older but appears to be a newer Ross> version... Are there any other source for JDKs as .debs? Ah bugger, thanks for the reminder. There are newer debs for the Blackdown JDK, I've just not gotten them

Re: Blackdown JDK conflicts with java2-common

2002-07-08 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ross" == Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ross> Weirdly, the .deb is a lot older but appears to be a newer Ross> version... Are there any other source for JDKs as .debs? Ah bugger, thanks for the reminder. There are newer debs for the Blackdown JDK, I've just not gotten the

Re: errors installing j2sdk1.3

2002-05-29 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Eric" == Eric Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Eric> Am I stupid or are these things tricky? dpkg -Bi --force-overwrite java2-common -- Stephen "So if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood."... "And therefore?"... "A witch!" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

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