Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-12 Thread Mark Howard
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 12:47:18AM -0400, Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: > On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 19:05, Ean Schuessler wrote: > > I say it should build from scratch using all DFSG tools if it is going > > to go in main. That's just me. I agree completely. That is the definition of main, isn't it? >

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Grzegorz B. Prokopski
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 19:05, Ean Schuessler wrote: > I say it should build from scratch using all DFSG tools if it is going > to go in main. That's just me. I think that if software is to be in main, then besides being buildable with tools from main - it should also not lack functionality (when r

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Mark Howard
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 12:47:18AM -0400, Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: > On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 19:05, Ean Schuessler wrote: > > I say it should build from scratch using all DFSG tools if it is going > > to go in main. That's just me. I agree completely. That is the definition of main, isn't it? >

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Grzegorz B. Prokopski
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 19:05, Ean Schuessler wrote: > I say it should build from scratch using all DFSG tools if it is going > to go in main. That's just me. I think that if software is to be in main, then besides being buildable with tools from main - it should also not lack functionality (when r

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Ean Schuessler
I don't think I agree. If you can't compile the package with Free tools then putting it in main doesn't make sense. You can't rebuild the package using Free Software. Jikes or something was seriously taken to task for their use of a JavaCC generated grammer. The arguement was that even though you c

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Ean Schuessler
I don't think I agree. If you can't compile the package with Free tools then putting it in main doesn't make sense. You can't rebuild the package using Free Software. Jikes or something was seriously taken to task for their use of a JavaCC generated grammer. The arguement was that even though you c

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Egon, * Egon Willighagen wrote: >On Thursday 11 September 2003 09:37, Mark Howard wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:33:39PM +0200, John Leuner wrote: >If they are in contrib or even non-free, then they do not violate any policy, >so important maybe, but I would say just normal... and cer

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Egon, * Egon Willighagen wrote: >On Thursday 11 September 2003 09:37, Mark Howard wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:33:39PM +0200, John Leuner wrote: >If they are in contrib or even non-free, then they do not violate any policy, >so important maybe, but I would say just normal... and cer

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Dalibor Topic
--- Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:33:39PM +0200, John Leuner wrote: > > I feel that despite whatever decisions we make about free and non-free > > VMs and tools etc, we should firstly pay attention to simply compiling > > our software with free tools and again

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thursday 11 September 2003 09:37, Mark Howard wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:33:39PM +0200, John Leuner wrote: > > I feel that despite whatever decisions we make about free and non-free > > VMs and tools etc, we should firstly pay attention to simply compiling > > our software with free too

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Mark Howard
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:33:39PM +0200, John Leuner wrote: > I feel that despite whatever decisions we make about free and non-free > VMs and tools etc, we should firstly pay attention to simply compiling > our software with free tools and against free libraries or free APIs. Doesn't this happen

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Dalibor Topic
--- Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:33:39PM +0200, John Leuner wrote: > > I feel that despite whatever decisions we make about free and non-free > > VMs and tools etc, we should firstly pay attention to simply compiling > > our software with free tools and again

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thursday 11 September 2003 09:37, Mark Howard wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:33:39PM +0200, John Leuner wrote: > > I feel that despite whatever decisions we make about free and non-free > > VMs and tools etc, we should firstly pay attention to simply compiling > > our software with free too

Re: Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-11 Thread Mark Howard
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:33:39PM +0200, John Leuner wrote: > I feel that despite whatever decisions we make about free and non-free > VMs and tools etc, we should firstly pay attention to simply compiling > our software with free tools and against free libraries or free APIs. Doesn't this happen

Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-10 Thread John Leuner
I have been observing the various discussions about changing java policy etc .. I feel that despite whatever decisions we make about free and non-free VMs and tools etc, we should firstly pay attention to simply compiling our software with free tools and against free libraries or free APIs. For e

Compiling java debian packages with free tools

2003-09-10 Thread John Leuner
I have been observing the various discussions about changing java policy etc .. I feel that despite whatever decisions we make about free and non-free VMs and tools etc, we should firstly pay attention to simply compiling our software with free tools and against free libraries or free APIs. For e